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Author Topic: Aloh Verra  (Read 1832 times)

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Offline collegedude250

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Aloh Verra
« on: January 20, 2013, 10:46:38 PM »
I saw some studies on a school database and also on the internet linking aloh to better t-cell counts and lower viral counts. Does anyone have any further information on this?

Offline texaninnyc87

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 11:28:53 PM »
No alternative therapies are going to compare to meds. google "aloe vera and HIV" and you will find some info though.

this should tell you mostly what you need to know:
http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Meds/Q219896.html?ic=2003
notice, the response is from a MD...

my opinion:
aloe vera is good for burns and those aloe juice drinks are super hydrating and cooling on hot days. other than those purposes, i'd stick to the pills. some alternative therapies might even have negative interactions with medications so if you do decide to supplement your pills with alternative methods check with your ID and do some research about how your meds will interact with whatever "remedy" you're trying out.
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Offline MilburnCreek

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2013, 11:00:15 AM »
Agree with Tex 100%. 

Would add though, if you want to *supplement* your HAART meds with other non-meds, consider selenium.  There are a number of professional studies out there suggesting selenium supplementation could be useful.  I started selenium in September 2012, and had my highest CD4 % ever this month.

Purely anecdotal of course, bt worth looking into.

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2013, 12:31:26 PM »
I've never taken selenium, other than what is in a multi-vitamin, and my cd4 count has been over 1700 for the past year.

I also enjoy smoking and doing poppers, purely anecdotal of course!
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Offline mecch

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2013, 02:11:47 PM »
Agree with Tex 100%. 

Would add though, if you want to *supplement* your HAART meds with other non-meds, consider selenium.  There are a number of professional studies out there suggesting selenium supplementation could be useful.  I started selenium in September 2012, and had my highest CD4 % ever this month.

Purely anecdotal of course, bt worth looking into.

Links please.

I remember inquiries into whether selenium was useful PRE-HAART - before medication. 

There studies about its utility for people on HAART?
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Offline MilburnCreek

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2013, 02:17:35 PM »
There are a few of you, who, for what reason I will never know, make a sport of being as bitchy and catty and critical as you can of me.  I am not sure why.  Any one of you are capable of doing a google search and investigating this for yourself, a I have. 

I made a suggestion for someone to follow up on. I dont have to print a fucking doctoral thesis everytime I write something on thee boards

Nonetheless,  you can start here:  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20961297

The first 12 google returns on HIV and Selenium all returned studies performed in the last 10 years - long after HAART.  Take it or leave it as you wish.

Offline mecch

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2013, 02:27:42 PM »
Hmm. Its not a personal criticism. I wrote the above because I was aware of studies in "resource poor" locations, specifically malnourished people, with AIDS.

Geez you don't want to show a source, don't.  No problem.  Or supply one when asked, but bitch about it.  Whatever. 
« Last Edit: January 21, 2013, 03:40:31 PM by mecch »
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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2013, 02:51:34 PM »


   Mama use to send me in the backyard in Florida to grab a piece of Aloe when I stayed in the sun too long.  My dog at the time use to eat Aloe and she died of breast cancer..... hard to believe but true.

   Take from it what you will....
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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2013, 08:32:02 PM »
There are a few of you, who, for what reason I will never know, make a sport of being as bitchy and catty and critical as you can of me.  I am not sure why.  Any one of you are capable of doing a google search and investigating this for yourself, a I have. 

I made a suggestion for someone to follow up on. I dont have to print a fucking doctoral thesis everytime I write something on thee boards

Nonetheless,  you can start here:  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20961297

The first 12 google returns on HIV and Selenium all returned studies performed in the last 10 years - long after HAART.  Take it or leave it as you wish.

Milburn, nobody got "bitchy and catty and critical" with you in this thread. You were asked to provide a link (not "print a fucking doctoral thesis") to back up what you said. That is standard in this forum.

YOU were the only one in this thread to get bitchy.

I hope you read my reply to you in your ill-advised "Really Disappointed in the Nasty blahblahblah" thread.

And DO NOT reply to my post here. The highjack of collegedude's thread ENDS HERE. And yes, that's a warning.

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Offline MilburnCreek

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2013, 09:09:02 PM »
1) Ummm...you didnt reply to me anywhere...you replied to someone else.

2) If you followed the half dozen threads these bitches have harassed me on, you would have a clearer understanding.

3)  FUCK YOU, CUNT. 

How's that? 

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2013, 09:12:42 PM »
1) Ummm...you didnt reply to me anywhere...you replied to someone else.

2) If you followed the half dozen threads these bitches have harassed me on, you would have a clearer understanding.

3)  FUCK YOU, CUNT. 

How's that?

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2013, 09:17:50 PM »
Toodles, MC. It's been a pleasure. ;)
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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2013, 09:21:12 PM »
1) Ummm...you didnt reply to me anywhere...you replied to someone else.

2) If you followed the half dozen threads these bitches have harassed me on, you would have a clearer understanding.

3)  FUCK YOU, CUNT. 

How's that? 

You're banned.

How's that?

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2013, 11:13:33 PM »
We really should start a thread about the dangers of steroid use and abuse within the Poz community. This could be turned into a teaching moment for a lot of people considering going down the same, self-destructive path.

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2013, 11:21:52 PM »
We really should start a thread about the dangers of steroid use and abuse within the Poz community. This could be turned into a teaching moment for a lot of people considering going down the same, self-destructive path.

Agreed. Along with a suggestion that if anyone decides to start taking supplements and/or vitamins after reading about someone else's routine, they should consult their healthcare provider first because without the proper knowledge, even taking too much selenium can be toxic.
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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2013, 11:35:31 PM »
I think that's excellent Ideas . I would like to see some thing good come from this unfortunate situation , its all I ever wanted when I spoke up about this issue anyway . 

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2013, 12:16:21 AM »
Sadly I know nothing about this stuff.

Aside from my antivirals I take the following:

Gummi Vitamins,2Xdaily
Gummi Probiotics, 2Xdaily
Gummi Fiber tablets, 2Xdaily

Krill oil, once a day.

I did read that aloe juice can help the gut. I tried some a few years back. Aside from being a really powerful laxative, I did not notice anything amazing about it.

More hydration is ALWAYS a good thing though. The impact on your skin is beyond belief.

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Offline collegedude250

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Re: Aloh Verra
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2013, 12:18:43 AM »
Just to be clear, I'm not asking in pure ignorance lol. I asked because I found a few case studies that showed promise and was wondering if there were any others of note or if anyone has tried and found results. I was not intending doing it instead of meds and I intend to ask my physician before doing anything. I do appreciate the tip on selenium, I will certainly look into it. I appreciate most of the comments guys (subtract the latter ones from our now banned friend). Any new info comes us feel free to keep posting.

 


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