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Horizon:

--- Quote from: jkinatl2 on January 16, 2013, 01:56:36 PM ---Not judging you. But it would be dismissive and condescending not to point out the elephant in your posts.

Living with HIV is still not a walk in the proverbial park. I suggest you grow a thicker skin as soon as you are able. If you think I'm an asshole then I submit your tenure on this forum will not be the coddling experience you appear to expect. I'm actually one of the nice guys. And with twenty years' experience there might actually be some stuff worth listening to - even, perhaps especially if it makes you defensive and uncomfortable.

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I hardly every comment on this site, also because of posts like these. You will be surprised at how many people have stopped interacting on this site because of people like you, and oldies, ganging up on younger people that come here for advise. I think its pathetic that you guys behave this way, and it makes me wonder what pathetic lives your guys live that you get a kick off spending your time on here bashing and judging people that come for advice!

The days of taking 50 pills a day a long gone!!! Taking medication is not as scary as it was back in the days you started taking them. Its a completely different time now and if people want to live a normal life and have wine, then who the hell do you guys think you are to judge people!!

GET A LIFE!!!

Jeff G:

--- Quote from: Horizon on February 14, 2013, 04:04:28 PM ---I hardly every comment on this site, also because of posts like these. You will be surprised at how many people have stopped interacting on this site because of people like you, and oldies, ganging up on younger people that come here for advise. I think its pathetic that you guys behave this way, and it makes me wonder what pathetic lives your guys live that you get a kick off spending your time on here bashing and judging people that come for advice!

The days of taking 50 pills a day a long gone!!! Taking medication is not as scary as it was back in the days you started taking them. Its a completely different time now and if people want to live a normal life and have wine, then who the hell do you guys think you are to judge people!!

GET A LIFE!!!

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This is the second time you have taken it upon yourself to come into a thread you didn't even start or contribute too except to offer a snarky comment or contempt for the board .

Do not post in this thread again , and yes this is a warning .   

oksikoko:

--- Quote from: Horizon on February 14, 2013, 04:04:28 PM ---The days of taking 50 pills a day a long gone!!! Taking medication is not as scary as it was back in the days you started taking them. Its a completely different time now ()

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Not stirring the pot, I swear!

I just wanted to acknowledge this statement. I'm newly (ish) positive. I find the 'harsher' attitudes of some of the 'older' (in HIV terms, not years) people in these forums kind of refreshing, to be honest. Even though I suspect a couple of them don't care for me very much (oops), I love coming here and reading through their advice to people even on threads that I'm not involved in.

I agree 100% that things aren't like they used to be. On another online forum, I was just the other day trying to help (I hope) a newly positive guy understand that even though his CD4 count is below 200, he wasn't about to keel over tomorrow and that I knew of plenty of people who were healthy for years at that level and below. (This guy is on meds and his doctor was involved and not worried about his levels.) My big point was that things are different than they used to be and that we all have a lot of baggage about HIV/AIDS from having lived through the 80s (some of us here) and 90s (most of us here). If you reached that level a long time ago without today's medicines, there were different implications than there are now.

BUT (coming up to my point, sorry long-winded), just because things are different, that doesn't mean we can just ignore the fact that we're HIV positive which has implications on our lives and the lives of people around us. Now, in my case, I practically chose for this to happen, so I can't really in good conscience continue to complain about any difficulties I might have, but I'm kind of surprised at the number people who've told me how easy it is now and how I shouldn't be having any side effects, etc. I push the idea that it's not really a big deal, but I mean that in the sense that it's no bigger a deal than most diseases which require massive amounts of powerful drugs for the rest of your life and are potentially fatal and contagious. ;) I do have an internal consistency. It just lives in the ambiguity of the particular situation. That is: what I say to one person to convince him not to jump off a ledge is not what I might say to another person who's about to push someone off a ledge.

I appreciate the 'old-timers' (lolz) here who smack people upside the head with reality every now and then. I'm incredibly thankful that we have the drugs we have now, and appreciative of the people who suffered so that we could have them, but I think it's a little foolish to act like there are no side effects with modern HAART and like we can do whatever we please now that AIDS is over. I was talking to a guy online recently who wanted to switch to Stribild from Atripla who was completely surprised to learn that he was taking three drugs and that Stribild would be 4. His doctor didn't think it was important to stress this and he learned it from some anonymous dude in a (I'll admit) rather murky neighborhood on the Internet? We don't need to scare people, but it's "a big fucking deal" (insert smiley of your choice). The one-a-day pills are giving a lot of people what I consider a false impression of what it's like to be HIV+. A culture of simplistic laissez-faire has grown up around HIV/AIDS, and I've participated in it myself. We don't have to think about HIV constantly, but it's kind of irresponsible for us to foster or endorse this idea that "AIDS is over".

I really hope I get my shit together soon, because I'd like to be out there doing something on this issue instead of designing the invitations for my pity parties all day. ;)

GChastain:
I was diagnosed + in November 2012 and started meds last December. First Viramune + Epzicom but I developed severe rash and I switched to Atripla. The First two months I had trouble to sleep and I felt quiet dizzy in the mornings. I also lost weight... but after three months everything is much better, I dont have trouble to sleep anymore, I dont feel dizziness, Im gaining weight again and I never had the vivid dreams.
So overall I feel great. I also believe that keeping a positive attitude is a key point to overcome the side effects and also give time to your body to adjust.
When you search on the internet you find more negative experiences than positive ones... Is important to post the positive experiences, not only the bad ones so I encourage people to please do so. Is tiring to see that is always the same people the ones that are posting comments on every single thread here, and some of them seem quiet bitter to me...

oksikoko:
I get tired of people saying things "some of you seem bitter". I'm sure I've done it too, but it's really irritating.

If you think someone is bitter, say it to them, or don't say anything. You're just casting aspersions at no one in particular which makes several people feel bad instead of addressing whatever it is you see as the problem and possibly making the forum better/more useful.

People come here and ask for advice on treatments. Maybe only the people with bad experiences are answering, but i's better than the post just sitting here getting no response. Peopl who answer also have no way of knowing if their response is normal. Yes, I comment on every Stribild post. If I say something wildly inaccurate, I'd love to know it so I won't go around thinking some side effect is normal. You may have a wonderful doctor. Great. Some of us are on our own and need other people here to answer.

If you're upset by other people's answers, I suggest you answer more -  ot ask others to answer less. If it's me you're addressing, please call me by name. I'm not bitter, and I'd like the chance to defend myself when called names. If it's not me, please call whoever it is you're talking to by name and they can ignore you or address you back.

Like a human being instead of an Internet troll.

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