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Author Topic: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB  (Read 8853 times)

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Offline mitch777

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2013, 09:32:40 PM »
Where did I ridicule her?

Some guys love this shape, and maybe Im one of them.
"maybe"?
LOL!
I think she might be missing something that is high on your priority list. :)
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2013, 09:44:19 PM »
"maybe"?
LOL!
I think she might be missing something that is high on your priority list. :)

you DO realize I have had sex with many many women right? and that I have 2 boys right?  8) Let's jsut say I know my way around a vajayjay, and it's not as frightening as you would think.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2013, 09:49:35 PM by WillyWump »
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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2013, 09:49:44 PM »
you DO realize I have had sex with many many women right? and that I have 2 boys right? 8)
yes.
what's your point? :)
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2013, 09:53:44 PM »

what's your point? :)

I'm not sure now.  :P

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2013, 09:55:49 PM »
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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2013, 10:05:06 PM »
This is not true for just HIV. You can charge someone for giving you Herpes too. Here is one example of countless ones. http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/06/herpes_verdict_in_portland_wom.html

Herpes is no where in the same league as HIV. Both are viruses and both can be transmitted through sexual contact yes this is true. But both have VERY different consequences. Smoking nicotine and smoking crystal meth are BOTH HIGHLY ADDICTIVE and VERY DANGEROUS but they clearly have different consequences. This is a tough one. If you have HIV and you know it you should disclose in my opinion. What do you think will happen? You can bank on falling in love before you tell the person? Maybe then they will be more receptive? The only time disclosure can be an issue is at the bathouse because there is are so many assumptions. Ironically speaking it is the only place I have dealt with rejection LOL! At the bar when I tell people I rarely deal with rejection (Luckily so far!).

Anyhow that is my two cents.

Best to all!

Oh for god's sake --- why can't people separate disclosure (which I think people should do) from criminalization (which I think is counter-productive).  If you go back and reread all the, never ending, threads about criminalization you won't see anyone disagree that disclosure SHOULD happen in most instances.  It's the throwing someone in jail when they don't aspect that is wrong.

As for your herpes story -- that was a CIVIL trial -- no one went to jail!!  Apples and Oranges.
As for the differences between the viruses -- I don't think it matters, but I'll give it to you anyway.  However, you neglected to discuss the influenza virus -- thousands die each year from it.  I've never read of anyone getting thrown into jail for "knowingly" exposing others to it.  so your argument doesn't really cut the mustard.  Criminalizing HIV is just a bad idea -- it doesn't have any real impact on spread, except for potentially increasing it.  It doesn't turn someone negative (although, in most states you don't have to actually infect someone to go to jail).

So -- whether someone should disclose is one issue -- whether someone should be jailed for not doing so is a completely different one.

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Offline Newguy

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2013, 10:13:25 PM »
Oh for god's sake --- why can't people separate disclosure (which I think people should do) from criminalization (which I think is counter-productive).  If you go back and reread all the, never ending, threads about criminalization you won't see anyone disagree that disclosure SHOULD happen in most instances.  It's the throwing someone in jail when they don't aspect that is wrong.

As for your herpes story -- that was a CIVIL trial -- no one went to jail!!  Apples and Oranges.
As for the differences between the viruses -- I don't think it matters, but I'll give it to you anyway.  However, you neglected to discuss the influenza virus -- thousands die each year from it.  I've never read of anyone getting thrown into jail for "knowingly" exposing others to it.  so your argument doesn't really cut the mustard.  Criminalizing HIV is just a bad idea -- it doesn't have any real impact on spread, except for potentially increasing it.  It doesn't turn someone negative (although, in most states you don't have to actually infect someone to go to jail).

So -- whether someone should disclose is one issue -- whether someone should be jailed for not doing so is a completely different one.

Mike

If you could prove who gave you influenza you might have a case, try proving it.

The Herpes example I gave you is just one of countless.

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2013, 11:33:36 PM »
Let's jsut say I know my way around a vajayjay, and it's not as frightening as you would think.

Testify.  I daresay some of them can be quite nice.
AIDS isn't for sissies.

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2013, 11:43:57 PM »
If you could prove who gave you influenza you might have a case, try proving it.

The Herpes example I gave you is just one of countless.

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There are probably assult laws that could be applied to HIV transmission or any other damn thing. Why not just use them if someone has such a hard on to prosecute. Then the lawyers would have to prove assault with HIV just like any other potential assault.

Also, you realise people go to prison under some of these laws for non-disclosure, and NO transmission. 

Also, you realise someone could go to prison for consenual sex, with disclosure, but still transmission. 

Also,

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2013, 11:49:04 PM »
Keep in mind some jilted lover could send you to prison just for the accusation stigma being what it is .

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2013, 12:03:51 AM »
you DO realize I have had sex with many many women right? and that I have 2 boys right?  8) Let's jsut say I know my way around a vajayjay, and it's not as frightening as you would think.
Testify.  I daresay some of them can be quite nice.




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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #61 on: January 17, 2013, 12:04:03 AM »
These laws were enacted by the powerful against people they fear, hate, and don't respect. 
COnsider only the USA.  Sound familiar?  The prison system is overloaded. There are groups of people who are serving time for one sort of "crime" when there are other groups of people who will never see time, for other sorts of crimes.

How about this:
Approximately 12%-13% of the American population is African-American, but they make up72.7% of the almost 2.1 million male inmates in jail or prison (U.S. Department of Justice, 2009).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics_of_incarcerated_African-American_males

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #62 on: January 17, 2013, 12:08:51 AM »
Uncle Poopie's quote seemed to say that he was against HIV criminalisation until someone convinced him otherwise.....


I guess its fine that bankers fleece the population of billions, and don't do time, but "its probably a good idea" to put away the AIDS monsters and the scary black dudes. Everyone sleeping better now?  Safe and sound? Good.   
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #63 on: January 17, 2013, 12:22:33 AM »
Testify.  I daresay some of them can be quite nice.

I love a nice vajayjay.  I wish guys had one. 

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #64 on: January 17, 2013, 12:27:27 AM »
I love a nice vajayjay.  I wish guys had one.

Guys have mangina.  Or as I prefer to say...mussy.
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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #65 on: January 17, 2013, 04:10:34 AM »
When did it become acceptable to ridicule anyone based on body image or based on whatever really? Isn't this bullying?

I had to chuckle since I just posted yesterday on FB that a lady about the size of this one told me I was too skinny and needed to gain weight. 

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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #66 on: January 17, 2013, 10:18:00 AM »



ESSEN!  ;)

ohhhmmmgeeee. I've seen that once or twice as well!
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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #67 on: January 18, 2013, 11:21:38 PM »
Uncle Poodle deleted my posts.  Imagine.   ::)
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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2013, 03:11:15 AM »
you DO realize I have had sex with many many women right? and that I have 2 boys right?  8) Let's jsut say I know my way around a vajayjay, and it's not as frightening as you would think.

Yeah, but you fantasized about Jeff Stryker's cock buried up your loose taco hole every time you banged your wife, or whatever two-bit trailer park gal you landed in a coke haze.
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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #69 on: January 24, 2013, 07:49:24 PM »

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #70 on: January 24, 2013, 08:05:58 PM »
Should we put him in jail when it turns up that he fabricated the entire story to obtain his own TLC spin-off show?
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #71 on: January 24, 2013, 11:09:48 PM »
We all knew something wasn't right about the time frame.  It would be more disgusting to totally make up a story about an AIDS Monster.  Well, I guess the good thing is no one was actually in prison. 

What would be the motivation?  Family or new boyfriend found out he was poz, so he had to say a partner lied to him?  Attention?  It seems he could get attention by partying hard and acting out.  Is he even poz?  Do I really care this much? 

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #72 on: January 24, 2013, 11:58:01 PM »
We all knew something wasn't right about the time frame.  It would be more disgusting to totally make up a story about an AIDS Monster.  Well, I guess the good thing is no one was actually in prison. 

What would be the motivation?  Family or new boyfriend found out he was poz, so he had to say a partner lied to him?  Attention?  It seems he could get attention by partying hard and acting out.  Is he even poz?  Do I really care this much? 

Your last question mirrors mine. And for me. no. No I do not.

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Offline wolfter

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #73 on: January 25, 2013, 08:34:57 AM »
Wouldn't it have been easier to claim a Priest infected him and the church was covering it all up.  That would have been an easier explanation for the lack of documentation. :o

And the ONLY reason I care is that it once against demonstrated how quickly people are to persecute the supposed AIDS monsters within their communities. 

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #74 on: January 26, 2013, 05:39:40 AM »
Here's a question -
is this author
http://viralapartheid.com/2013/01/22/uncle-poodle-hiv-prosecution-allegations-raise-serious-questions/
a Forum member? Or maybe did he get his take-down line of inquiry reading our forum?    8)
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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2013, 08:28:48 AM »
Here's a question -
is this author
http://viralapartheid.com/2013/01/22/uncle-poodle-hiv-prosecution-allegations-raise-serious-questions/
a Forum member? Or maybe did he get his take-down line of inquiry reading our forum?    8)

Or maybe he has the same intelligence and common sense that came through on this topic here!  It ain't rocket science.

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2013, 09:58:12 AM »
I seriously doubt the author took his lead from reading "Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB." All one needed to do was click on the home page of the blog Viral Apartheid and see that the blog is about HIV discrimination, not Uncle Poodle. Now that doesn't mean the author isn't a member of the forums, but it's obvious he was working on this long before this thread was started.

On a side note:  Jeromy Dunn is mentioned in the comments.


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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2013, 11:22:23 AM »
omg! we wuz out-hustled by a blogger!
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Uncle Poodle
« Reply #78 on: February 09, 2013, 06:00:12 PM »
Has anyone heard the news?
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Re: Uncle Poodle
« Reply #79 on: February 09, 2013, 06:15:20 PM »
Duh! I guess everyone knows, and I am just so, so slow in backwoods Maine.
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Re: Uncle Poodle
« Reply #80 on: February 09, 2013, 10:19:30 PM »
"I’ve slept with enough men to know that I’m not gay"

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Re: Uncle Poodle on the Honey BB
« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2013, 06:10:15 AM »
Hey Fisher, I merged your Uncle Poodle thread with the already existing one, so you can catch up on what everyone thought about it all.

You mean this?

I particularly like this paragraph from the blog entry above:

"Silence is part of the stigma that drives HIV. I get it. I understand that blaming an ex-partner for infecting someone with HIV is a very functional way to divert attention from important conversations which require that we take responsibility for our own actions and our own sexual health. But that discomfort is not an excuse for refusing to prove you told the truth, or to answer specific questions about your HIV disclosure."

Did Uncle Poodle really think that nobody would check up on his prosecution claims? I'd like to say that people can't be that stupid, but ... well ... you know. I guess they can. ~sigh~
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