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Offline wolfter

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2013, 05:07:34 PM »
Indeed my dear Wolfmeister, they do! Can't you tell?

And if you think I'm a nasty vile person you should have seen me when I had deca injections in my butt cheeks for four years. Though eventually tamed the beast with handfuls of klonnie.

ps: and once I gained the weight back I have to say even though I was on 1/4 of the stuff this other guy is on my body looked four times as muscular.

OH HELL NO, I wouldn't want to witness that.  A lifetime ban is a LONG time. ;D

I'm the other end of the gay spectrum, my focus has always been on staying lean and trim.  I don't want no bulging muscles, I want my partner to be able to easily flip me all over the place.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2013, 05:09:41 PM by wolfter »
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Offline MilburnCreek

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2013, 05:09:23 PM »
Girl, you are quite the rebel. Bet you jaywalk and remove the tag off your mattress under penalty of law.

ROFLMAO!

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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2013, 05:12:14 PM »

I'm the other end of the gay spectrum, my focus has always been on staying lean and trim.  I don't want no bulging muscles, I want my partner to be able to easily flip me all over the place.

It was actually a lean and muscular/cut look. Not that out of proportion, unappealing water-bloated look.
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Offline buginme2

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2013, 05:34:22 PM »
At my last HIV appointment my doctor said he was going to add the testosterone test at my next blood draw (In March 2013).  He has never tested me for it before however I have been having some fatigue issues and this feeling of just.....blah.  After trying a couple different antidepressants with zero help, he said he was going to test the testosterone level.

After reading this thread, god I am hoping they are in the normal range.  Kinda nervous about it now. 

Side note, we also discussed ditching Atripla if there is no other reason discovered for the fatigue.  Waiting and seeing.

Offline Iggy

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2013, 05:35:20 PM »
I'm revisiting this issue myself.

I started using testim about 2-3 years ago for below normal levels of testosterone which I asked to be tested based off of energy (sleep 8-9 hours and still be really tired in the day).

After a few years I'm not sure that there has been that much of an effect/change.   

I see my new doctor at the end of the month and plan to revisit the issue.   It's never been debilitating (lack of energy), and willing to try going off it for a while (under md supervision - mainly to test levels) for the a while to see if it is even worth the co-pay.

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2013, 06:11:02 PM »
btw, I'm quite sure my years of testosterone injections caused me to have high blood pressure and take medicine for same by the age of 40. Good times.
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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2013, 11:05:58 PM »
Is this a Southern thing? I've not seen this either in Philly or the DC area. Do you folks swing by the Pill Palace on your Medicare scooters afterwards for some Oxy?

It's not just a Southern thing.  Testosterone replacement is increasingly seen as a competitive advantage, beyond the realm of just sports.  For example, the financial markets industry:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/68015bb2-51b8-11e1-a99d-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Hv1eZWCx
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2013, 11:14:50 PM »
It's not just a Southern thing.  Testosterone replacement is increasingly seen as a competitive advantage, beyond the realm of just sports.  For example, the financial markets industry:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/68015bb2-51b8-11e1-a99d-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2Hv1eZWCx


No, that's not what I meant. I meant doctors putting up billboards for it, as in that's all of their business that they do.

ps: your link is only for registered users
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Offline Buckmark

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2013, 11:32:05 PM »
No, that's not what I meant. I meant doctors putting up billboards for it, as in that's all of their business that they do.

ps: your link is only for registered users

I haven't seen any billboards here in Austin.  Billboards or not, though, it's not hard to imagine unscrupulous doctors building a practice on this.

Sorry about the link -- the damn Financial Times thinks their content is so special.  Here is another article that is a good summary.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-02-09/wall_street/31040591_1_testosterone-therapy-hormone-therapy-financial-crisis

Hmmm... look at this clinic in Austin:

http://www.agelessmenshealth.com/locations/austin-testosterone-replacement-therapy-clinic/

Oh, wait, they have location in several states, including New York -- Midtown and Wall Street locations, not surprisingly.  65 Broad St, Suite 1804.

http://www.agelessmenshealth.com/locations/newyork-testosterone-replacement-therapy-clinic/
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Offline jkinatl2

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2013, 11:34:03 PM »
There are a couple of clinics in the Atlanta area that advertise in the gay rags for testosterone therapy. They often also do Botox and other cosmetic things.

Can't say that I was never tempted, in my club and AIDS activism days, when my costume of choice was a spandex unitard and cape, to juice. I am grateful beyond words that the opportunity never presented itself when I was vulnerable to that. I've seen firsthand the results when someone is juicing, and  have seen the results when they finally stop. The former tends to create a beautiful outside and a monstrous inside; the latter does the reverse.

IMHO it's just one step on the destructive level down from Crystal Meth.

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Offline mikeyb39

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2013, 12:25:50 AM »
Well thanks guys for all the info, its really good to hear the pros and cons.  i dont think im going to bring it up again to my doc anytime soon.  Althouugh i do have HUGE low hanging testicles that i wouldnt mind making little smaller.  its so hard to adjust sometimes..

Miss P, yes there is quite a few clinics for  testosterone clinics here in dallas in all the gay rags....its the going thing here it seems

i think i willl do without for a while longer anyyways.
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Offline Iggy

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2013, 06:46:53 AM »
Charlotte's started getting those billboards about a year ago.  I've seen them on both I-77 coming into the city from the North and off of South Boulevard.The company behind them is ReNEW Man (yes - caps like that). 

I googled e to see if I could find any of the billboard images, but only found several  "do it for her" type things.   The one in Charlotte is has a huge black and white picture of guy's chiseled torso with six pack. 

I don't remember any mention of of "her" in our billboard, but then again, I may not have been reading the print portion of it either  ::)
« Last Edit: January 14, 2013, 06:49:57 AM by Iggy »

Offline WillyWump

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2013, 04:57:19 PM »
Is this a Southern thing? Do you folks swing by the Pill Palace on your Medicare scooters afterwards for some Oxy?

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Offline MilburnCreek

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Re: Testosterone therapy
« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2013, 09:50:13 PM »

 


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