Quantcast

Subscribe to:
POZ magazine
E-newsletters
Join POZ: Facebook MySpace Twitter Pinterest
Tumblr Google+ Flickr MySpace
POZ Personals
Sign In / Join
Username:
Password:
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
October 01, 2014, 09:04:08 PM

Login with username, password and session length


Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 640714
  • Total Topics: 48669
  • Online Today: 241
  • Online Ever: 585
  • (January 07, 2014, 02:31:47 PM)
Users Online

Welcome


Welcome to the POZ/AIDSmeds Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and others concerned about HIV/AIDS.  Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning:  Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

  • The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own physician.

  • All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

  • Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators of these forums. Click here for “Am I Infected?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ/AIDSmeds community forums.

  • We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are true and correct to their knowledge.

  • Product advertisement—including links; banners; editorial content; and clinical trial, study or survey participation—is strictly prohibited by forums members unless permission has been secured from POZ.

To change forums navigation language settings, click here (members only), Register now

Para cambiar sus preferencias de los foros en español, haz clic aquí (sólo miembros), Regístrate ahora

Finished Reading This? You can collapse this or any other box on this page by clicking the symbol in each box.

Author Topic: "Do you still have HIV"?  (Read 2861 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline redbull

  • Member
  • Posts: 73
"Do you still have HIV"?
« on: January 13, 2013, 04:31:02 PM »
This is what a routine booty call I used to have will ask me when he calls....can you believe the dam ignorance of people?  I had to quit hooking up with him cuz he was so dam paranoid but damn that brotha had one helluva good dick, lmao
If you wish to see the best in others, show the best of yourself.

5/20/09  tested poz
6/2/09  CD4-94    VL-380,000
8/09   Allergic reaction to bactrim
9/09/09  started Atripla
5/10    cd4 315  vl undetectable
3/11    cd4 400  undetectable
6/11.   Cd4 520. Undetectable
12/11. Cd4 450. Undetectable
6/12.   Cd4 600. UD
2/13.   Cd4 425. UD

Online Jeff G

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 11,851
  • How am I doing Beren ?
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2013, 04:36:33 PM »
LOL ... if the sex is that good just tell him you don't know you haven't tested today ... and be sure to have safe sex .

Offline MilburnCreek

  • Member
  • Posts: 67
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2013, 04:40:33 PM »
He's undetectable.  Why should he "be sure" to have safe sex?

Online Jeff G

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 11,851
  • How am I doing Beren ?
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2013, 04:42:59 PM »
He's undetectable.  Why should he "be sure" to have safe sex?

This is so absurd its almost funny .

Offline MilburnCreek

  • Member
  • Posts: 67
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2013, 04:45:01 PM »
Really?  My bf and I are in a serodiscordant relationship and never wrap up.  He's still neg (and I'm still Poz :-) )  Our best friends are in the same position 5 years and running. 

Sorry, but I think the Swiss have it right.  Argue with them, not me.

Offline thunter34

  • Member
  • Posts: 7,314
  • His name is Carl.
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2013, 05:01:03 PM »
Really?  My bf and I are in a serodiscordant relationship and never wrap up.  He's still neg (and I'm still Poz :-) )  Our best friends are in the same position 5 years and running. 

Sorry, but I think the Swiss have it right.  Argue with them, not me.

You're the one espousing it here, so I'll go with you.

http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/51/11/1323.full

"But we have every reason to pause and reflect. The protection provided from ART is not absolute and is not absolutely predictable."
AIDS isn't for sissies.

Offline wolfter

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,569
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2013, 05:13:29 PM »
You could always tell him that you didn't test positive today.   That's technically true.
Complacency is the enemy.  ;)  Challenge yourself daily for maximum  return on investment.

Offline MilburnCreek

  • Member
  • Posts: 67
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2013, 05:17:02 PM »
All of life is a serous of choices and chances.  This one article (which I have read before) is not Scripture delivered on a Golden Platter from on High.  It is an Opinion - nothing more.  I respect anyone's choices based on synthesizing the information they gather.

But where you crossed the line was is telling the initial writer to "be sure" he had safe sex. 

HIS choice, not yours.

Offline Iggy

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,435
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2013, 05:28:09 PM »
The whole "still have HIV?" thing has happened to me a number of times in the last couple of months.

It's not that people ask that direct question, but it seems almost implied or hinted in the implication that it is not an issue for bareback.   

I'm not sure if I'm expressing this right, but a number of non-poz guys who I have talked with about hooking up almost always ask if I'm on meds and undetectable after I disclose my status (or if it was on a online profile).  It's like the Swiss study has seeped into even the non-poz gay culture consciousness.

Maybe it was always this way and I have just been out of circulation for so long, but I don't remember guys in NY asking me this (undetectable/on meds?) 5 years ago when I was last single.


Offline wolfter

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,569
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2013, 05:29:28 PM »


HIS choice, not yours.

Actually not, the OP lives in Virginia so it IS NOT his choice. 
Complacency is the enemy.  ;)  Challenge yourself daily for maximum  return on investment.

Offline MilburnCreek

  • Member
  • Posts: 67
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2013, 05:36:16 PM »
Actually not, the OP lives in Virginia so it IS NOT his choice.

Yes, it is.  It is ALWAYS the individual's choice as to how to live their own life, REGARDLESS of what society - or the law - says.

It's MY choice to exceed the 65 mph speed limit, smoke pot, or skip putting money in the parking meter.  MY life, MY choices.  Not yours. 

Could the repurcussions/consequences by severe? 

Yes. 

That does not make them any less MY choice. No one appointed you the Police State Enforcer Of All Written Law, beknighted to instruct others as to what to do in THEIR lives.

Online Jeff G

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 11,851
  • How am I doing Beren ?
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2013, 05:37:17 PM »
Roidycreek is just nit picking because he didn't care for something I said in another thread , we all know suggesting safe sex is good thing ... he is conveniently forgetting booty call guy might have other things to share like chlamydia or hep . that safe sex practices might help protect against .

Offline wolfter

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,569
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2013, 05:41:43 PM »
Yes, it is.  It is ALWAYS the individual's choice as to how to live their own life, REGARDLESS of what society - or the law - says.

It's MY choice to exceed the 65 mph speed limit, smoke pot, or skip putting money in the parking meter.  MY life, MY choices.  Not yours. 

Could the repurcussions/consequences by severe? 

Yes. 

That does not make them any less MY choice. No one appointed you the Police State Enforcer Of All Written Law, beknighted to instruct others as to what to do in THEIR lives.

You might want to discuss these anger management issues with your doctor.  Since I've not witnessed this  behavior from you in the past, I'll give you the benefit of a doubt that other issues are at play.
Complacency is the enemy.  ;)  Challenge yourself daily for maximum  return on investment.

Offline MilburnCreek

  • Member
  • Posts: 67
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2013, 05:43:09 PM »
Roidycreek is just nit picking because he didn't care for something I said in another thread , we all know suggesting safe sex is good thing ... he is conveniently forgetting booty call guy might have other things to share like chlamydia or hep . that safe sex practices might help protect against .

That is correct.  Everything I do and say is a reflection of the gravitational importance that jg1962's thoughts have on me.

He's such an important one, that jg.....and so clever.

I'm so proud to have a stalker now. 

Want my phone number?

Offline BT65

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 9,955
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2013, 05:43:22 PM »
Exactly, Jg.  Just because the op is undetectable, that does not protect him from syphilis or gonorrhea. 

God millburn.  Get off Jg's back.  And everyone else who doesn't agree with you.
I've never killed anyone, but I frequently get satisfaction reading the obituary notices.-Clarence Darrow

Offline MilburnCreek

  • Member
  • Posts: 67
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2013, 05:45:15 PM »
  Since I've not witnessed this  behavior from you in the past, I'll give you the benefit of a doubt that other issues are at play.

Didn't realize you were following me around. 

Sorry, but my dance card is rather filled for the next few months.  I might have time to offer you a quickie in June.

Online Jeff G

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 11,851
  • How am I doing Beren ?
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2013, 05:45:38 PM »
That is correct.  Everything I do and say is a reflection of the gravitational importance that jg1962's thoughts have on me.

He's such an important one, that jg.....and so clever.

I'm so proud to have a stalker now. 

Want my phone number?

says the guy who followed me to another thread to comment on my post  ::) .

Offline wolfter

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,569
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2013, 05:53:59 PM »
Didn't realize you were following me around. 

Sorry, but my dance card is rather filled for the next few months.  I might have time to offer you a quickie in June.

UM, NO.  I suddenly turned straight. ;)  And there will be little, if any interaction with you in the future.  No need to respond and we'll just go our different ways.
Complacency is the enemy.  ;)  Challenge yourself daily for maximum  return on investment.

Offline OneTampa

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,222
  • "Butterflies are free."
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2013, 06:42:07 PM »
Fascinating.

 ::) ::)
"He is my oldest child. The shy and retiring one over there with the Haitian headdress serving pescaíto frito."

Offline Andy Velez

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 24,772
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2013, 07:30:10 PM »
Milburn, lay off the snappish stuff back and forth or you are going to find yourself getting a Time Out. Same for any others who may find it irresistible to return his remarks in kind.

Resist doing so.

Thanks for your cooperation.
Andy Velez

Offline redbull

  • Member
  • Posts: 73
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2013, 08:58:59 PM »
I was just shocked & surprised at someones ignorance to ask them if they still had hiv....really?

He obviously still wants to have sex but I cant stand the questions & etc after Ive explained everything to him.
If you wish to see the best in others, show the best of yourself.

5/20/09  tested poz
6/2/09  CD4-94    VL-380,000
8/09   Allergic reaction to bactrim
9/09/09  started Atripla
5/10    cd4 315  vl undetectable
3/11    cd4 400  undetectable
6/11.   Cd4 520. Undetectable
12/11. Cd4 450. Undetectable
6/12.   Cd4 600. UD
2/13.   Cd4 425. UD

Online Jeff G

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 11,851
  • How am I doing Beren ?
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2013, 09:03:46 PM »
If you really want to shake him up tell him you don't have it anymore , you gave it to him and he can keep it cause you don't want it back . Im kidding of course , he might believe you LOL .

Offline drewm

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,130
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2013, 09:29:33 PM »
Naw, I sold it last year LOL! JUST KIDDING  ::)
Diagnosed in  May of 2010 with teh AIDS.

PCP Pneumonia . CD4 8 . VL 500,000

ATRIPLA - VALTREX -  FLUOXETINE - FENOFIBRATE


Numbers consistent since 12/2010 - VL has remained undetectable and CD4 is anywhere from 275-325

Online tednlou2

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,906
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2013, 10:54:39 PM »
I saw a study a few years ago that said something like 17% thought there was a cure already.  Perhaps this guy is one of them?  I think they think the daily meds eventually cures a person.  I can't remember if this was a nationwide study or just D.C., because the story focused heavily on the D.C. cases. 

Offline texaninnyc87

  • Member
  • Posts: 247
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2013, 11:38:41 PM »
I can kind of understand some random uneducated straight person saying this, but for any gay guy to say this? its kind of bizarre.
Dxd: 9/11/12
Blot confirmed: 11/12
12/12 cd4: 280 (20%) vl: 129,000
1/13 $tribild
2/13 cd4: 350 (26%) vl: 80
4/13 cd4: 510 (29%) vl:: 35
6/13cd4 350 (31%) vl: 21
9/13 cd4 492 (30%) vl: ud
12/13 cd4 846 (36%) vl: 100
1/14 cd4 480 (31%) vl: UD
3/14 cd4 650 (33%) vl: UD
6/14 cd4 410 (35%) vl: UD
9/14 cd4 439 (38%) vl: UD

Online Jeff G

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 11,851
  • How am I doing Beren ?
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2013, 11:54:23 PM »
I can kind of understand some random uneducated straight person saying this, but for any gay guy to say this? its kind of bizarre.

since its a gay disease and all   ::) .

Offline texaninnyc87

  • Member
  • Posts: 247
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2013, 11:58:17 PM »
i would just expect any person to be SOMEWHAT educated about a disease that has effected their community so much!
Dxd: 9/11/12
Blot confirmed: 11/12
12/12 cd4: 280 (20%) vl: 129,000
1/13 $tribild
2/13 cd4: 350 (26%) vl: 80
4/13 cd4: 510 (29%) vl:: 35
6/13cd4 350 (31%) vl: 21
9/13 cd4 492 (30%) vl: ud
12/13 cd4 846 (36%) vl: 100
1/14 cd4 480 (31%) vl: UD
3/14 cd4 650 (33%) vl: UD
6/14 cd4 410 (35%) vl: UD
9/14 cd4 439 (38%) vl: UD

Online Jeff G

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 11,851
  • How am I doing Beren ?
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2013, 12:04:41 AM »
I agree ... Im not that surprised though , we see some pretty bad examples in the Am I forum to know that so many people only pay attention to this stuff when they think it might effect them personally .

Offline Rockin

  • Member
  • Posts: 494
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2013, 05:53:33 AM »
I think it's fair to say that most people are stupid, ignorant and clueless. As I get older I realize it's not even me being arrogant, it's just a damn fact. Don't be surprised.

And many gays, especially the young ones, are completely superficial. Why, I have a poz friend who doesn't even know anything about the meds he takes. He thought Atripla had just one substance...yknow, because it is 1 pill.  ::)

Offline Iggy

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,435
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2013, 09:05:11 AM »
I think it's fair to say that most people are stupid, ignorant and clueless. As I get older I realize it's not even me being arrogant, it's just a damn fact. Don't be surprised.

I'll quibble a little but I won't agree it is fair to say that at all.   

I do think is that most people are overwhelmingly self-interested and care for little beyond what they think they need to know until it affects them. 

That includes many of on the board who contracted HIV through unprotected sex after the early to mid mid to late 1980's.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2013, 09:36:52 AM by Iggy »

Offline wolfter

  • Member
  • Posts: 4,569
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2013, 09:21:10 AM »
I'll quibble a little but I won't agree it is fair to say that at all.   

I do think is that most people are overwhelmingly self-interested and care for little beyond what they think they need to know until it affects them. 

That includes many of on the board who contracted HIV through unprotected sex after the early to mid 1980's.

You might consider revising that to "after the late 80's".  As someone infected in the mid 80's, we had no knowledge of the magnitude of this new gay disease that was striking major cities.  Information was scarce, and common knowledge was peppered with ignorance about how this illness was acquired.  By the time we understood what was really happening, it was too late for many of us.

Not saying I'd have behaved differently, and I'll never know since I didn't get that opportunity.
Complacency is the enemy.  ;)  Challenge yourself daily for maximum  return on investment.

Offline Iggy

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,435
Re: "Do you still have HIV"?
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2013, 09:37:10 AM »
Fixed.

 


Terms of Membership for these forums
 

© 2014 Smart + Strong. All Rights Reserved.   terms of use and your privacy
Smart + Strong® is a registered trademark of CDM Publishing, LLC.