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Offline luizjr

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ARS Symptoms, test, help!
« on: January 10, 2013, 10:23:35 AM »
Hi everyone out there...

I will keep my story short: had an exposure 14 days ago (what by most is considered low risk activity - cunnilingus).

Started to show a bunch of symptoms (fever, sweats, strong fatigue, etc). Afraid of being facing ARS, took a HIV PRO DUO TEST (antibodies + p24 antigen) on the 14th day since the episode, that came back negative.

My questions:

1-) many doctors say p24 can be detected from 14-21 days since infection. IF symptoms were due to ARS, should test come positive already, considering that antibodies were being produced due to ARS plus the time frame of 14 days for p24 detection from the possible exposure?

2-) The situation took only 20 or 30 seconds, but the girl told me, after all was done, she was menstruating. I remember I could really feel her scent but, as she was wearing a jeans shorts and had to put it aside, when I licked her I could not feel any taste... Would it be an evidence, then, that I had not even "achieved success" in finding the party area? If I could smell I should have tasted too, right?  I was pretty drunk and a car is not that comfortable for such practices.

By the way, I would like to thank you all for patience and supporting.

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Re: ARS Symptoms, test, help!
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2013, 10:34:34 AM »
Luiz,

Cunnilingus isn't LOW risk for hiv, it's NO RISK for hiv infection. There's not been a single documented case of transmission happening in this way and you're not going to be the first.

1. The p24 antigen isn't an antibody, it's an antigen. It's only present before enough antibodies are produced to cause a positive antibody result.

The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days.

Seroconversion means enough antibodies have been created to cause a positive antibody test. It does not refer to the p24 antigen.

A six week negative is highly unlikely to change, but must be confirmed at the three month point - when there has actually been a risk. You have NOT had a risk!

2. This is all irrelevant as cunnilingus is NOT a risk for hiv infection regardless of what details you care to add. You only licked her for 20-30 seconds? I bet she was thrilled (not).

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY FOR HIV FOLLOWING NO RISK CUNNILINGUS, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Offline luizjr

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Re: ARS Symptoms, test, help!
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2013, 10:57:36 AM »
Ann,

 Thank you so much for the prompt response!

 I am aware that p24 is an antigen. Some docs say 14 days it is already detectable...It is detectable before antibodies right? That was the question... If 14 days would be enough for the p24 antigen be detected;

For the 2nd question, I am sorry for the "highly detailed" spot but, considering that you are a girl, my statement was correct, right? If I could smell and did not tasted, probably I was playing with her leg or the passenger seat? =)

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Re: ARS Symptoms, test, help!
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 11:08:40 AM »
Luiz,

It doesn't matter what you were licking - you can't get hiv that way.

The p24 antigen usually shows up between between seven and fourteen days. It was never going to show up on your test - because you haven't had a risk.

YOU. HAVE. NOT. HAD. A. RISK. Got it?

Re-read reply #1. It contains all the information you need in order to remain hiv negative - and you ARE hiv negative.

Ann





And by the way, I'm not a "girl", I'm a 50 year old woman. I haven't considered myself a girl since I was between sixteen and twenty years old. Yes, it's just semantics, but how often do you hear people call over-twenty males boys? It's always men this, or men that, or at the very least, young men, not boys. It just gets on my wick nearly as much as when people refer to being hiv negative as being "clean".

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: ARS Symptoms, test, help!
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 11:24:32 AM »
Ann,

   I REALLY apologize for ANY offensive content my words may have produced...
   I NEVER, ever, meant to disrespect you.

    In my country, we call women "girls" and men "boys" whenever we wanna sound kind to that person...

    Anyway, I want to apologize, indeed.

   I am sorry and thankful for all your support.

   All the best,

    Luiz

   

 


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