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Offline gavin44

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Concerned about Frottage and shaving
« on: February 06, 2014, 12:49:05 AM »
Hello,

Like many others, I'm in panic mode over a recent interaction. I spent the evening with someone who's previous sexual history is unknown. I had a few questions I'm hoping someone can assist in answering. Apologies in advance for being graphic.

We engaged in mutual unprotected oral sex. No ejaculation took place. It's unknown if there was exposure to pre-cum. I guess I am uneducated in this matter, because I had no idea there was an HIV risk associated with oral sex until I started researching the topic. Should I be worried?

Additionally, I know that frottage is not considered a risk for HIV infection. However, when engaging in this act, the tip of my partners penis accidentally pushed hard, but very briefly, against the outside of my anus. I have never engaged in anal sex, so this feeling caused me to immediately flinch/clench and push away. Is this a concern?

This all took place just over 2 weeks ago. My anxiety has been through the roof. I went today to take a full panel STD test, including early detection HIV. I read this test can detect infection as early as 5 days from exposure. Is this true? Will my results be accurate, or will I need to retest? I'm not sure I can wait 3 months under this type of stress.

Any help with these concerns is greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!!

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Re: How Risky?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2014, 02:23:41 AM »
There is no need for you to panic as you have not had a risk.  Oral sex is not a risk for HIV, nor is frottage, or someone rubbing their penis against your anus, without penetration.

The risk factors for HIV are ...

Sharing IV drug needles immediately after use.
Unprotected anal and vaginal sex.
Mother to child during or shortly after birth
Very specific healthcare situations.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to HIV testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start.  As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine HIV tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than HIV.  Some of the other STDs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid HIV infection. It really is that simple!

There is no need for you to test for HIV, if these are the only incidents of concern to you.

Joe

Offline gavin44

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Concerned about Frottage and shaving
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2014, 08:21:27 PM »
Hello,

First I'd like to thank the moderators for all the work they do on this site. It's truly informative and has probably educated hundreds of thousands of people on this topic.

It has been made clear from other posts that frottage is not considered a risk for HIV infection. However, what about if one of the persons involved shaved their anus shortly before the act (about 1 hr)? Since this is a sensitive area it is prone to small, sometimes unnoticeable, cuts/soars. If the penis rubs or pushes against the outside of the anus, but does not actually penetrate, could pre-cum infect a small abrasion or service cut from the shaving? Is there any risk here? Would this be something to consider testing over?

Thank you in advance for your response.

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Re: Concerned about Frottage and shaving
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2014, 09:10:02 PM »
Gavin,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions.  It helps us, to help you, when you keep everything in one thread.  It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Nothing you mentions put you at risk for HIV.

The risk factors for HIV are ...

Sharing IV drug needles immediately after use.
Unprotected anal and vaginal sex.
Mother to child during or shortly after birth.
Very specific healthcare situations.

Use condoms for vaginal and anal sex consistently and correctly and you will avoid HIV infection, it is that simple.

Joe

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Re: Concerned about Frottage and shaving
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2014, 10:03:45 PM »
Wow - thanks for the speedy reply, Joe. I wish my coworkers would respond to emails that quickly.

In order for there to be a risk, would it have to be a pretty deep shaving cut that was still bleeding? Or, are you saying that if there is not full penetration, there is no need at all to worry about potential HIV risk? Would it be a waste of time to get tested over this particular incident?

Best,
Gavin

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Re: Concerned about Frottage and shaving
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2014, 10:12:51 PM »
Wow - thanks for the speedy reply, Joe. I wish my coworkers would respond to emails that quickly.

In order for there to be a risk, would it have to be a pretty deep shaving cut that was still bleeding? Or, are you saying that if there is not full penetration, there is no need at all to worry about potential HIV risk? Would it be a waste of time to get tested over this particular incident?

Best,
Gavin

HIV is not transmitted through casual contact and shaving cuts are not how HIV is transmitted.  You do not need to test as you never had any risk.

Joe

 


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