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Author Topic: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)  (Read 1391 times)

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Offline mikeyb39

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Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« on: December 02, 2012, 09:36:57 AM »
Im a die hard democrat and i'm sure Susan Rice would be a qualified choise, but I sure hope the Predident chooses John Kerry.  There is something about Susan Rice that doesn't sit well with me for some reason.

Anyone have any preferences?  Thoughts?
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Offline mikeyb39

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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 09:38:53 AM »
Sorry, i suppose this is a question for those of us that live in the USA.
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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 10:45:28 AM »
There is something about Susan Rice that doesn't sit well with me for some reason.


Like what exactly? If one reads her resume it's obvious she was super-duper accomplished before her name became common knowledge.
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Offline darryaz

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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 12:55:34 PM »
The main thing that would bother me about John Kerry being nominated is the possibility that horrible Scott Brown would be elected to his Senate seat.  I think that may factor into Obama's decision.

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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 01:34:45 PM »
that might be true, but hiriing that prude Susan Rice to Secretary fo State state would counter profductive....sure she has the credential to do it, but she always looks to have a major attitude problem, or shall i say a biatch.
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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2012, 02:23:38 PM »
They "they" are aways saying she has a sharp tongue and is abrasive.  Do "they" really know?  Not sure.  Is that just want many always say about women and especially black women?  Condelslezza was very difficult and abrasive.

You want a strong diplomat, but a charming one as well.  Hillary definitely had the same reputation, and she is loved in that job. 
John wanted the job back in 2008.  I do worry a little about his senate seat.  But, if he doesn't get state, I would think he'd be offered defense.  Republicans really seem to want John to leave his senate seat.  While trashing Rice, they've been praising him.

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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 02:27:48 PM »
that might be true, but hiriing that prude Susan Rice to Secretary fo State state would counter profductive....sure she has the credential to do it, but she always looks to have a major attitude problem, or shall i say a biatch.

Let's me get this straight. You admit she has the credentials, but without any evidence you "think" she's a prude and a bitch and that should disqualify her. What a ridiculous, narrow-minded assessment.

Offline buginme2

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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 02:49:57 PM »
I saw her interview on Meet the Press, the one that has caused all this supposed "controversy."  I found her to be poised and admirable. 

Other than that interview I know very little about her.  I find it absurd that she is being blocked for that interview.

I think it makes John McCain look like a fool.  I like John McCain too.  I admire his service and think he has been an asset to his party (I'm not a republican but I still like him).   This "controversy" of his makes him look petty.

John Kerry is another admirable man.  I like him for Sec of Defense.

Offline darryaz

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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 03:06:17 PM »
that might be true, but hiriing that prude Susan Rice to Secretary fo State state would counter profductive....sure she has the credential to do it, but she always looks to have a major attitude problem, or shall i say a biatch.

I believe Democrats had a similar argument against nominating John Bolton as UN Ambassador in 2005 (well, I don't actually remember anyone calling him a "bitch").

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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2012, 03:23:51 PM »
I use to like John McCain several years ago, but he's become a very sore loser.  He tried blocking the repeal of DADT.  After saying he would listen to the military leaders on it, he didn't.  And, he gave us Sarah.  As an older man with health problems, he put her a heartbeat away.  I lost what respect I had for him.  He supported the first Rice, after she made statements about Iraq that she knew was wrong, but he started a witch hunt for the current Rice, when she WAS going on what the intelligence community gave her.

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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2012, 04:38:42 PM »
^ditto.
McCain has turned into a bitter old man.
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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2012, 05:28:58 PM »
Im a die hard democrat and i'm sure Susan Rice would be a qualified choise, but I sure hope the Predident chooses John Kerry.  There is something about Susan Rice that doesn't sit well with me for some reason.

Anyone have any preferences?  Thoughts?

Either one is fine with me. The catch with Kerry is that he's a Mass Senator. So were he to accept the post, and then he resigns as Senator, there would be an election in Mass.  And do we want another Republican Senator? No! 

Many suspect this is why the Washington DC Republicans are against Rice.  They want Kerry, and thus a chance to get all excited about an election and perhaps another Senator.
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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2012, 05:32:18 PM »
that might be true, but hiriing that prude Susan Rice to Secretary fo State state would counter profductive....sure she has the credential to do it, but she always looks to have a major attitude problem, or shall i say a biatch.

Really Mikey, you are coming off rather strangely in some of these threads.  Rice a "bitch"?  That's a low cheap shot.  Condi Rice was sort of abrasive also.  I wouldnt have called her a bitch.  Let's see, fiercely intelligent. High achievements. Black. Woman.  Do you really think "bitch" is the word you want to go for? 
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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2012, 05:42:52 PM »
I have no idea how accurate or valid this is but thought I would throw it in to keep this thread interesting.

"Susan Rice, the candidate believed to be favored by President Obama to become the next Secretary of State, holds significant investments in more than a dozen Canadian oil companies and banks that would stand to benefit from expansion of the North American tar sands industry and construction of the proposed $7 billion Keystone XL pipeline," OnEarth Magazine reports. "If confirmed by the Senate, one of Rice’s first duties likely would be consideration, and potentially approval, of the controversial mega-project."

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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2012, 08:23:42 AM »
^ditto.
McCain has turned into a bitter old man.

A bitter cuckoo  old man... before that he was a bitter, cuckoo somewhat younger man. Just sayin'...

And a president should have the right to choose whomever he wants for Secretary of State. Period.
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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2012, 09:25:02 AM »
Prior to 2008 I had as good of a personal respect for McCain as a lefty progressive could muster but his choices and actions in that election changed what little bit of grudging respect I had for him . The astoundingly bad decisions he made during that campaign and his refusal deal with them honestly reminds me of the story the emperor has no clothes .






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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2012, 11:36:52 AM »
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A bitter cuckoo  old man... before that he was a bitter, cuckoo somewhat younger man. Just sayin'...
so Andy, I guess you really never liked the guy? ;D

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Prior to 2008 I had as good of a personal respect for McCain as a lefty progressive could muster but his choices and actions in that election changed what little bit of grudging respect I had for him . The astoundingly bad decisions he made during that campaign and his refusal deal with them honestly reminds me of the story the emperor has no clothes .
 

as a lefty myself, it has always been difficult to muster support for almost anyone on the right. it just seems he has gotten even more angry and bitter with age.

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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2012, 03:52:10 PM »
Actually, he's always been a mean, bitter person. He's only gotten older. The DC establishment press always did a good job showing only the friendly McCain face prior to 2008, I suppose out of deference to what he went through in Vietnam. Remember, his nickname in high school was "McNasty" so it's not like any of this is new. He was always known for his hotheaded temper among other Republicans, which is why he didn't have establishment support in 2000. But my favorite story about McNasty is the report of him calling his wife a "cunt" back in 1992. In John's defense this may have been during Cindy's pill popping days, when she'd steal them from charity organizations. Personally I bet Cindy was a LOT of fun back then.
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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2012, 03:54:58 PM »
Yes, and someday when passes on the Repubs will have a field day eulogizing him as "a great American patriot." 

Ugh. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2012, 04:01:18 PM »
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Yes, and someday when passes on the Repubs will have a field day eulogizing him as "a great American patriot."   

of course, and those same repubs would love to see Reagan added to Mt. Rushmore. ;)
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Re: Secretary of State (Susan Rice or John Kerry)
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2012, 05:15:13 PM »
Well what was so great about Teddy Roosevelt?

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On the more idealistic side, Teddy Roosevelt is a powerful figure in American myth. Borglum saw the carving in Rushmore as a memorial to the United States' Manifest Destiny, and Theodore Roosevelt--hero of the Spanish-American War, builder of the Panama Canal, explorer, rancher, naturalist, conservator, and athlete--certainly embodied all the good qualities we associate with those who "tamed the West." It is also important to realize that when Borglum was beginning his work, Roosevelt had only been out of office for seventeen years, and had been dead less than ten. Imagine, for comparison, someone in the early '70's writing a list of "Great Presidents" and not including John F. Kennedy--it would seem bizarre.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2040/why-is-teddy-roosevelt-commemorated-on-mt-rushmore

Well if its about Manifest Destiny, why not Star Wars Reagan winner of the Cold War.
Bush Jr., too.  That was ALL ABOUT manifest destiny.
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