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General HIV Transmission Question
« on: October 15, 2012, 07:28:59 PM »
Ok so I had sex with this girl the other day. I did it stupidly knowing that I had a tiny scab on my penis. The scab was maybe only the size of the tip of a ball point pen and was completely closed (I think).

I thought she would only be using her hand on me before we ended up meeting, which is why I didn't think much of it, but more ended up happening.

We had protected sex, and afterwards she used her hand on me and her mouth a little. I know HIV is very hard to transmit and it's unlikely that anything happened, but just thought I'd ask anyway.

I concerned that maybe some of her vaginal fluids came in contact with the scab or something like that. Although from what I've been reading if it's a scab HIV can't make its way through.

It's less than a week from the incident now and I have what I think is just a regular cold, although it has me worried that it may be HIV symptoms. I don't have any rash or thrush or fever, etc, just a very slight sore throat and a runny nose.

Also as far as I know this girl doesn't even have HIV, but she's just a random girl I met so I don't really know.

Thanks for any help!

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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2012, 08:55:17 PM »
Under absolutely NO circumstances were you at any risk for HIV in the scenario as you described it

HIV is an extremely fragile virus and can not be transmitted by vaginal juices outside the body. As a matter of fact, the infectious fluids found inside the vagina are isolated far inside the vagina, in thick mucousal fluids near the cervix. You cannot reach them with a finger or tongue, only a penis. The other, lubricating fluids which you likely encountered are not any more infectious than saliva or sweat (which is to say, not at all.)

You wore a condom for penetrative sex. That's really all you need to do in order to prevent HIV infection. I certainly wish the same could be said for other STDs, but sadly it cannot.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: Another "Am I Infected" Question
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2012, 03:59:58 AM »
Great thank you very much for the reply.

"As a matter of fact, the infectious fluids found inside the vagina are isolated far inside the vagina, in thick mucousal fluids near the cervix."

Interesting... I didn't know that, I thought it was all vaginal fluids.

In general though is it not possible for HIV to penetrate through a scab or other cut which isn't fresh?

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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2012, 05:29:12 AM »
Great thank you very much for the reply.

"As a matter of fact, the infectious fluids found inside the vagina are isolated far inside the vagina, in thick mucousal fluids near the cervix."

Interesting... I didn't know that, I thought it was all vaginal fluids.

In general though is it not possible for HIV to penetrate through a scab or other cut which isn't fresh?

It is not.

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Re: Another "Am I Infected" Question
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2012, 04:36:02 PM »
Ok thank you again for your help :).

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General HIV Transmission Question
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 11:17:04 PM »
Ok so I know that it is essentially impossible to transmit HIV orally (receiving as a male), however I have a bit of a different scenario.

Once in a while I'll have a threesome with a guy and a girl. There is no touching at all between the guys, but the girl will perform oral on both me and the other guy.

I'm wondering if it's possible to get HIV from this if the other guy happens to be positive? Say for example his semen (precum) gets into her mouth, then is passed on to me. As far as I know anyone I've done this with is not positive though.

I had an encounter a couple weeks ago though, and the day after I started to get sick. As far as I know this is too soon to be a sign of HIV, but I worried a bit anyway. I don't have a rash or anything, just a slightly sore throat for a day and a bit of a stuffy nose. Two other people who I live with were sick with similar symptoms before I got sick, so I'm assuming I just caught a cold from them.

So anyway, I just want to make the threesomes are a safe thing for me to do, as I don't want to worry every time I have one.

There's no unprotected sex during these other than oral sex.

Thanks to everyone who posts here to help people out with these questions.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2013, 11:21:10 PM by mkm »

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Re: General HIV Transmission Question
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 07:58:14 AM »
mkm,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep everything in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

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NO, you're not going to become infected with hiv from a third party's cum in the mouth of the person blowing you. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST FOR HIV SPECIFICALLY OVER A BLOWJOB, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: General HIV Transmission Question
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 02:52:47 PM »
Hi Ann,

Ok great thank you. I was expecting that answer but just wanted to make sure.

I had basically forgotten about it, but I started feeling really crappy last night... bad cough, chills, etc. It seems to have gone away mostly over night though, although I still don't feel great.

And sorry last question... I had a tiny cut at the very base of my penis from shaving maybe an hour before the encounter... even with this it would not be possible to have gotten HIV?

Again as far as I know these people don't even have HIV and are generally safe, so I know I'm probably worrying needlessly.

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Re: General HIV Transmission Question
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2013, 04:16:46 AM »
Hi... sorry for bumping this topic but I'd like to get my questions off my chest before my seven day trial runs out and I can't post anymore.

So in addition to the above I'm just curious about the following:

I've seen you mention many times to people that they don't have HIV-specific symptoms. So what exactly are the HIV-specific symptoms? Sore throat? Swollen glands? Rash? Thrush?

Also you're saying that I don't need to worry about testing for this specific incident? If so I probably won't get tested (I was tested a few months ago anyway).

Thank you again for the help.

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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2013, 08:14:05 AM »
mkm,

There really aren't any specific symptoms of primary hiv infection. The symptoms - if they happen at all - are very general and flu-like. They come on all at once and go all at once, just like the flu.

The symptoms are not caused by the virus itself. They are caused by the process the body goes through while producing antibodies. Your body goes through the same process when you have the flu virus and are producing flu antibodies, hence the symptoms being so similar as to be indistinguishable.

You have NOT had a risk for hiv infection! If you cannot bring yourself to believe us, go test and collect your negative result. As a sexually active adult, you should be testing at least once a year anyway.

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Re: General HIV Transmission Question
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2013, 05:56:22 PM »
Hmm well I've had flu-like symptoms so that doesn't really help, lol... although they haven't come and gone all at once (lasting cough, no more chills, no more fever... but still sick).

Anyway I'll believe you and will try to stop worrying about it :).

Thank you again for your help :).
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 06:04:59 PM by mkm »

 


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