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Offline tednlou2

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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2012, 02:50:34 PM »
The apartment comment was telling.  He believes those without insurance all live in apartments, aka the poor. 

30 Rock made some funny bits about insurance.  Kenneth the Page's mom, played by Catherine O'Hara, came to visit.  She said, "Obamacare is causing us to live longer.  I want to die in the ER of a treatable disease, like any red blooded American."

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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2012, 03:30:35 PM »
I've seen some apartments that cost more than a house payment.
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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2012, 09:05:00 AM »
obama better be good tonight!
latest polls show major shift to romney from women.
what??!?

i live in connecticut and liebermans senate seat is a tossup.
glad to see lieberman go with his hawkish views and was REALLY pissed during the health care issue.
but really, linda mcmahon? ugh!

still is incredible how evenly split this country is on the political front.
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2012, 05:02:00 PM »
I found this creative.  See if you can click on the Romney tax plan link on this website. 

 http://www.romneytaxplan.com/

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« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2012, 05:36:49 PM »
lol.
that goes for every "plan" they have!
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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2012, 05:45:29 PM »
I found this creative.  See if you can click on the Romney tax plan link on this website. 

 http://www.romneytaxplan.com/

love it. ;D
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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2012, 05:58:34 PM »
While it's true that Obama has clearly lost ground in the past two weeks, you have to read the internals of some of the polling for a clear picture. We all have read/heard that national polling is somewhat irrelevant because of the electoral college, but still the national numbers can cause worry. And this is why the internals are instructive, and much moreso than in other elections. The regional breakdown shows quite clearly why his numbers are being thrown off, and that is because there has been a surge of support in the South for Romney. As they were already irrelevant because they were deep red, what you're seeing is a bunch of wasted votes.

Latest Gallup regional breakdown:

East - Obama +4
Midwest - Obama +4
South - Obama -22
West - Obama +6
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« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2012, 06:06:00 PM »
while i would like to breath a sigh of relief with the gallup internal polls, momentum nationally gives some people second thoughts.
on a positive note...
perhaps it will inspire more people to get out to vote for Obama.
still...
Obama better not be nodding off tonight.
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« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2012, 06:12:19 PM »
ps.
when will those southerners realize that they are being duped by the republican party?
is it the diet?
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« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2012, 06:15:56 PM »
on reflection, we northerners produced Palin, Bachman, and countless other A**wipes.
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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2012, 06:22:27 PM »
ps.
when will those southerners realize that they are being duped by the republican party?
is it the diet?

I have asked this question of many of my relatives and people I meet here in the deep south . One answer I get is that they believe it when a Republican looks into the camera and says they are for christian values .

I am convinced that southern voters vote against their own interest because they fail to understand the issues and rely on what they are told by the party that they and the neighbors have supported for decades now .       

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« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2012, 06:39:29 PM »
i don't have an issue with most so-called "christian values" but the far right values seem to be a pick and choose.
love to wear my key west t-shirt:
"too many right winged christians, too few lions"
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Offline buginme2

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« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2012, 07:17:26 PM »
I have asked this question of many of my relatives and people I meet here in the deep south . One answer I get is that they believe it when a Republican looks into the camera and says they are for christian values .

I am convinced that southern voters vote against their own interest because they fail to understand the issues and rely on what they are told by the party that they and the neighbors have supported for decades now .     

Read the book " What's the matter with Kansas".

It's about this very topic.  Why do people vote for those (specifically republicans) when it is against their interest.  It's well written and very interesting.

Also for those outside the US, this book was released in the UK and Australia under the title "What's the matter with America"
« Last Edit: October 16, 2012, 07:19:09 PM by buginme2 »

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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2012, 07:37:44 PM »
You should specifically state economic interests. If one's interests are stopping baby killers and communist African Americans from taking over this God fearing nation then it's in their interest.
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« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2012, 08:32:55 PM »
True that

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« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2012, 08:34:47 PM »
You should specifically state economic interests. If one's interests are stopping baby killers and communist African Americans from taking over this God fearing nation then it's in their interest.

Ahem to that!
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« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2012, 08:45:21 PM »
Obama, the arugula-eating koran-worshipping half-breed anti-capitalist amoral baby-killing wealth-redistributing affirmative-action benificiary undeserving moocher of ivy league meritocracy middle-brow political-operative sleazy commie pinko fag that he is.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2012, 08:50:16 PM by mecch »
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« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2012, 08:50:03 PM »
geez Mecch,

you really put some thought into that. ;D
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« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2012, 08:51:46 PM »
now, your thoughts on Romney?
tee hee.
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« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2012, 08:52:27 PM »
Obama, the arugula-eating koran-worshipping half-breed anti-capitalist amoral baby-killing wealth-redistributing affirmative-action benificiary undeserving moocher of ivy league meritocracy middle-brow political-operative sleaze-bag that he is.

"entitled" should be somewhere in there. i've grown to truely hate that word. recently it has become a loaded word that means so much more hatred than is being said

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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2012, 09:02:26 PM »
OK.  Ready to ruuuuuummmmmble?

The 2nd presidential debate is about to start!

Ms. Candy is talking now.

Will check back in at the conclusion.

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« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2012, 09:09:13 PM »
the rematch!! jeez, commentary sounds like they are covering a boxing match

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« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2012, 10:27:18 PM »
You would think that because this is supposedly questions from the American people, they would remember this and limit their bullshit rebuts!. Clearly when they can't even listen to or answer the questions of Americans in a short timespan demonstrates why they can't listen long term. So ugly...glad I voted early...Rosanne will make a fascinating President.

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« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2012, 11:10:57 PM »
You really gotta love a president who uses the words "sketchy" and "gang bangers" without batting an eye
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« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2012, 11:49:20 PM »
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Offline buginme2

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« Reply #75 on: October 16, 2012, 11:55:23 PM »
I felt like I was watching a moment of British Parliament. 

Offline tednlou2

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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #76 on: October 17, 2012, 12:19:48 AM »
Well, the female moderators are sooo much better.  Obama is back! 

There were a few in our group tonight wondering whether he intentionally did so poorly in the first debate, in order to give Romney a false sense of security.  I'm not sure about that, but he was back tonight.  He made so many of the points he failed to do in the first debate. 

I also think Romney's comment about women needing flexible time to do their wife duties may come back to haunt him.   

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« Reply #77 on: October 17, 2012, 12:29:38 AM »
Romney came across very aggressive this evening, bordering on bullying and constantly crying about the timer.

I too wondered about the flex time for women comment.  Not only did it not answer the question, it almost borders on agreeing with lesser pay for equal work since women will need to take more personal time.

This election is going to be terribly close.  Ohio is still about evenly split. 
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« Reply #78 on: October 17, 2012, 05:10:45 AM »
You would think that because this is supposedly questions from the American people, they would remember this and limit their bullshit rebuts!. Clearly when they can't even listen to or answer the questions of Americans in a short timespan demonstrates why they can't listen long term. So ugly...glad I voted early...Rosanne will make a fascinating President.

Like.

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« Reply #79 on: October 17, 2012, 08:32:28 AM »
Yep , The Pres is back with a vengeance and kicked the magic underwear off the Mittins .   

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« Reply #80 on: October 17, 2012, 03:15:07 PM »
George Will, the insufferable conservatard twat, decrees that last night's debate was "immeasurably the best" that he's witnessed over a span of 52 years.
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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #81 on: October 20, 2012, 11:19:03 AM »
so what do you all think of Obama's chances at this point.  i'm getting a little nervous that folks are gonna put Willard in office.  That really scares me. 
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« Reply #82 on: October 20, 2012, 11:44:55 AM »
aw hell, chances?! its all tea leaves and chicken bones. popular vote doesnt count for shit anyway. electoral college votes the way they want. here in georgia, only twice since '68 has even a single electoral vote gone democrat.

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« Reply #83 on: October 20, 2012, 12:16:02 PM »
so what do you all think of Obama's chances at this point.  i'm getting a little nervous that folks are gonna put Willard in office.  That really scares me.

Now don't kill the messenger but I think it is shaping up to be a landslide, like 320+ electorals,... for Romney.

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« Reply #84 on: October 20, 2012, 12:24:49 PM »
oh Willy, say it isn't so.....lol
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« Reply #85 on: October 20, 2012, 12:32:55 PM »
LOL, please. You know what is throwing off the national poll numbers? the +20 point support in Southern states. The three other regions show +4 for Obama.

Otherwise stick to polling aggregates in the nine battleground states. 320 EV for Romney, don't make me laugh. Even Karl Rove wouldn't say something so moronic.
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« Reply #86 on: October 20, 2012, 12:34:12 PM »
I hope everyone is paying attention to their congressional races too.  I watched Ohio's debate between Mandel and Brown and it'll be horried if the little twerp Mandel wins.  He loudly and proudly denounces homosexuality.
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« Reply #87 on: October 20, 2012, 12:38:19 PM »
fyi, the numerous battleground polls that came out late Thursday actually increased Obama's chances of winning. Fivethirtyeight, the NY Times blog by Nate Silver (and the only one worth reading) showed Obama going from a 65.7% chance of winning to 70.4%.
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« Reply #88 on: October 20, 2012, 12:50:20 PM »
fyi, the numerous battleground polls that came out late Thursday actually increased Obama's chances of winning. Fivethirtyeight, the NY Times blog by Nate Silver (and the only one worth reading) showed Obama going from a 65.7% chance of winning to 70.4%.

I LOVE Nate Silver.  I have such a nerd crush on him.

Anywho, im nervous about Obama losing, but not freaking out just yet.

That last debate though was just too much, I thought Romney was a big ass, he was so disrespectful to the president.  I dont plan on watching the next debate (not that it matters since my state isnt a swing state and its not like im oing to be swayed)

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« Reply #89 on: October 20, 2012, 01:01:28 PM »
here in georgia, only twice since '68 has even a single electoral vote gone democrat.


heading to the polls this week, nonetheless.  oh - and welcome back to GA, apparently.
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« Reply #90 on: October 20, 2012, 01:11:15 PM »
thank you tim  ;) only been back a couple weeks

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« Reply #91 on: October 20, 2012, 03:05:10 PM »
I hope everyone is paying attention to their congressional races too.  I watched Ohio's debate between Mandel and Brown and it'll be horried if the little twerp Mandel wins.  He loudly and proudly denounces homosexuality.
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As for Romney beating Obama -- not overly worried about that yet.  It's tight, but all the info I see is still pointing to Obama taking enough of the swing states to win.  IF Romney were to win, it will not be by a blowout.
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« Reply #92 on: October 20, 2012, 04:58:14 PM »
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As for Romney beating Obama -- not overly worried about that yet.  It's tight, but all the info I see is still pointing to Obama taking enough of the swing states to win.  IF Romney were to win, it will not be by a blowout.

i agree, but Obama is not doing as well I had hoped considering, um... his opponent is Romney or anyone else for that matter that was included in the Republican  primary.
biggest bunch of loonies, all with scarey ideas and oblivious to reality.

on a good note...
latest polls in Connecticut shows Murphy is starting to pull away from Linda McMahon.
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« Reply #93 on: October 20, 2012, 05:31:23 PM »
Rasmussen Reports did an additional statewide poll in the battleground state of North Carolina which had a 6% lead for Mitt Romney. President Obama was at 46% compared to 52% for Romney. Undecided voters were at 1% in North Carolina but the level of support for Third party candidates was not included in the Rasmussen presidential poll for North Carolina. Rasmussen Reports released their North Carolina presidential poll on October 18, 2012.

I am planning to vote straight Democratic Monday. Of my friend and coworkers I would say about 70% are voting Obama. I think 3 out of the 4 gay people I know in Greensboro are voting for Romney citing the usual reasons: economy, taxes, healthcare, etc.

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« Reply #94 on: October 20, 2012, 05:43:16 PM »
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I think 3 out of the 4 gay people I know in Greensboro are voting for Romney citing the usual reasons: economy, taxes, healthcare, etc.

I thought gay people were smarter than that no matter where they lived.  ???
healthcare, really??
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« Reply #95 on: October 21, 2012, 02:29:56 AM »
My Republican friends and family are not excited, at all, about Romney.  Most don't say a word about him.  They don't put Romney bumper stickers on their cars or stick yard signs in their yards, like they did for Bush.  It would be nice if they just stayed home on election day, but I'm sure they'll go vote for him, even though they don't really like him. 

It would thrill me, if KY went for Obama.  However, I know that will NOT happen.  We voted for Carter once and Clinton twice.  We have voted for Dem governors the last 40 years, except for once.  I guess we'll only vote for a Dem for prez, if that person is white and seems like he could live in a trailor next door.  Gore was white, but not redneck enough.           

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« Reply #96 on: October 21, 2012, 03:53:27 AM »
I think 3 out of the 4 gay people I know in Greensboro are voting for Romney citing the usual reasons: economy, taxes, healthcare, etc.
They are super rich and want that tax cut? And they are against Affordable Care?  And they are gay?

I understand people being upset about the economy and wanting to try a new Prez on that.   

I haven't seen Romney sell a convincing tax plan.   And who in their right mind is against affordable care. 

Romney has avoided speaking straight on all matters.  But I imagine if he were elected, he could speak his mind and say he's all for affordable care and start talking up a way for states to do this without the federal government.  Why people in poor or conservative states would believe their state would bother, beats me.
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« Reply #97 on: October 21, 2012, 07:11:46 AM »
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Why people in poor or conservative states would believe their state would bother, beats me.
they hold on to pick-and-choose bible quotes and ignore the larger picture of what religion is supposed to teach.

brainwashed by some in the clergy (sad) and the good-old-boy church-going republicans in power.

maybe their eyes will open in the next century?
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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #98 on: October 21, 2012, 10:02:54 AM »
They are super rich and want that tax cut? And they are against Affordable Care?  And they are gay?

I can't completely explain their rationale. One friend in particular doesn't like the Federal government forcing people to obtain insurance coverage and feels a national healthcare plan will increase government spending and undermine states rights. He believes the free market system with sparse government intervention works best. He fears Obama is following a more European philosophy of government where people expect the government to take care of them and we could eventually end up like Greece. When it comes to gay marriage he thinks people should be able to do whatever they want and government should stay out of people's personal lives. He is not thrilled with Romney but doesn't think Obama deserves four more years. I can't properly defend his position but that is the general idea.

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Re: watching the dabate??
« Reply #99 on: October 21, 2012, 10:13:23 AM »
Does it bug anyone else that this thread has been going on for weeks now and the word "Debate" is spelled wrong?

 


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