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Author Topic: Massage Parlor Experience  (Read 4917 times)

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Offline JackinDC

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Massage Parlor Experience
« on: September 16, 2012, 09:38:19 PM »
My situation is like some others I’ve read here, so I think I know the response I’ll get. But I have to make sure my interpretation of things is correct. 

Here it is: On Friday I visited a massage parlor. I was fully naked during the session. About halfway through. the masseuse stripped down to only a thong. She let me suck on her nipples for a couple minutes before she started masturbating with me a large amount of baby oil. In an attempt to hold off my orgasm for a little bit, I asked if I could massage her.

She didn’t want to lie down on the table, but she did let me stand up and massage her from behind. While I massaged her shoulders, she playfully backed into me. I was about six inches taller than her, so when she backed up, her butt checks and lower back brushed up against my penis. I felt a little slipperiness against her skin, which gave me a little pause. I didn’t want to come into contact with any of her bodily fluids. I now think what I felt was the baby oil on my penis causing me to slide a little against her skin.

I think it’s pretty far-fetched to think what I felt were vaginal secretions. She never bent over. She was wearing a thong. I never came that close to her anus, let alone her vagina. So, in order for those to be vaginal secretions, I figure she would have had to have been highly aroused and her secretions would’ve had to have defied gravity. I am a heavyset, 45-year-old, so both conditions seem close to impossible. 

I then laid back down and she completed masturbating me. After that she spent a few minutes using sprays and lotions to clean her herself and me. 

I am not worried about sucking her nipples. They were intact and I tasted nothing. Plus, I have read here and elsewhere that even a small amount of breast milk is not a risk for an adult.

Was anything else that happened a risk? There was no penetration. I wasn’t interested in penetration. She never bent over when I was standing behind her and I was at least six inches taller than her, so I did not come into contact with her vagina. In addition, I think her thong would’ve prevented accidental brush-by penetration. And I just can’t imagine how vaginal secretion could end up on her back side if she was standing up and never bent over.

This has been embarrassing to describe, but also strangely therapeutic.

Thank you for all you do. This is a great service.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Massage Parlor Experience
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2012, 10:20:57 PM »
Nothing that you did put you at risk of contracting HIV.

HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
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Offline Ann

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Re: Massage Parlor Experience
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2012, 08:36:49 AM »
Jack,

No penetration equals no risk. Even rubbing your penis against her genitals (which you did not) is not a risk. Rubbing genitals together or on some part of the body without penetration is called frottage and frottage is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

Sexually speaking, successful hiv infection occurs INSIDE the body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

Going to a massage therapist - including ones who provide "happy endings" - is meant to be a relaxing, pleasurable experience. Stop worrying about this and relax. Provided you use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse with ANYONE who you're not 100% sure of their hiv status, then you haven't been at risk.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER THIS MASSAGE/MASTURBATION/FROTTAGE INCIDENT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Offline JackinDC

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Re: Massage Parlor Experience
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2012, 09:41:47 AM »
Rod, Ann:

Thank you. What a service you provide. You are saints.

I feel now enlightened and relatively calm about my incident. I presume your adivce is that I can move on and just use this as a learning experience?

I owe both of you a drink or something.

Again, thank you.


Offline JackinDC

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Re: Massage Parlor Experience
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 02:16:23 PM »
I think I need you all to call me stupid and move on.

 About a month after the described incident, I have developed a headache and congestion. I see headache listed as an ARS symptom.

I have been tired for several weeks beginning before this. I am also under some stress in addition to the incident at the massage parlor.  Intellectually, I know my risk was very, very low.  I am just engaging in a silly “what if.” But, again, I need something to tell me so. 

Thank you. I know you have better things to do.

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Re: Massage Parlor Experience
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 04:40:24 PM »
No, you didn't have a low risk. You had a no risk incident. We are not going to keep a back and forth going with you about this. If you continue to return about this same non-risk you are very quickly going to find yourself getting a Time Out for at least 28 days.

You don't have a problem over HIV. You need to let it go and move on with your life. If you can't do that then get some professional help about this. We can't address that with you in this setting.

Andy Velez

 


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