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Author Topic: Colds--Should I expect them more often?  (Read 2190 times)

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Offline jimbalaya

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Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« on: September 07, 2012, 02:11:10 PM »
Hi All,

So as I've mentioned once, twice, or twenty times... I'm a teacher.  In my first couple years of teaching I got sick quite often, but after a few years of being around children regularly I have not gotten so much as a cold the past 3 years...now that I'm back in school for the first time since becoming positive, I already have a nasty cold and had to call out sick for the first time in 3 years.  As we are only in the 4th week of school, I'm wondering if I should expect to get sick more often since my immune system is 'weakened' .  I'm now UD, and CD4 is in the 500 range.  I'm just curious what others have experienced and if I should get those sub plans ready for the next time   :P

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 02:19:26 PM »
Since I learned I was positive and was put on meds I have not had a single cold, flu, nothing. 

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 02:31:17 PM »
Since I learned I was positive and was put on meds I have not had a single cold, flu, nothing.

Thanks!  I'm just surrounded by kids with runny noses and germs all day long....I guess I need to invest in more Lysol disinfectant spray and hose them down before they come into my room.    ;D

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 02:48:09 PM »
A 500 cd4 count isn't a "weakened" immune system, so the answer is "no".
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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 02:52:23 PM »
Well yes, that's why I put 'weakened' in bunny ears.  It's not exactly 1000 CD4's but it's in the 'normal' range.   

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 03:04:29 PM »
Sweetheart, I have 1785 cd4 count. I just got over 10 days of an upper respiratory infection. There were times back when I had 300 cd4 count that I had the same illness and got over it in half the time.
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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2012, 11:54:51 PM »
I didn't go and fact check this before posting, so please correct any bad info.  Aren't things like colds connected to the humoral immune system, which is not affected (or not so much) by HIV??? 

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2012, 05:47:50 AM »
Jim, I'd suggest that you get yourself some antibacterial gel that you can use on your hands without having to actually wash them with soap and water. Keep it on/in your desk and use it often. You can get pump-action bottles that you could use quickly and discretely without the kids hardly noticing.

I've also suggested to my daughter that she keeps and uses hand gel in her classroom (she teaches 2nd grade) and she's not even poz.

It also pays to keep your hands away from your face, particularly your eyes (rubbing your eyes is a great way to pick up the flu), nose and mouth. 

While you shouldn't be any more prone to picking up bugs from the kids than anyone else, it's still a good idea to avoid what you can. Kids are germ-laden little beings, even the adorable ones. They're equal opportunity infectors - you don't have to be poz to pick some bug up from them.

I don't know about in the States but here in the UK, all hospitals now have antibacterial gel dispensers in the foyers, at the entrance to every ward, and also at every bedside. There are huge posters and small signs everywhere reminding people to use the gel. Infections - including the dread MRSA - have been dramatically reduced in UK hospitals as a result.

I have a big bottle (600ml) of something called Defendol - hospital grade antibacterial hand gel - that I use to re-fill smaller bottles (50ml) that I keep in my bag or jacket for use when I'm out shopping. The handles on shopping carts are great places from which to pick up cold and flu viruses.

I've found that aside from the obvious convenience of not having to find a place to wash my hands with soap and water while out and about, the hand gel doesn't dry my skin out like repeated washing does.
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Offline jimbalaya

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2012, 11:09:43 AM »
Jim, I'd suggest that you get yourself some antibacterial gel that you can use on your hands without having to actually wash them with soap and water. Keep it on/in your desk and use it often. You can get pump-action bottles that you could use quickly and discretely without the kids hardly noticing.

I have a big bottle (600ml) of something called Defendol - hospital grade antibacterial hand gel - that I use to re-fill smaller bottles (50ml) that I keep in my bag or jacket for use when I'm out shopping. The handles on shopping carts are great places from which to pick up cold and flu viruses.


Thanks for the advice!  I actually have tons of the instant sanitzer for the kids, but have gotten quite lazy about using it myself....I haven't had a cold or gotten sick at all in 3 years, so I've slacked off....I'll just try to be more cognizant of using it often.     :D

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2012, 11:11:05 AM »

I don't know about in the States but here in the UK, all hospitals now have antibacterial gel dispensers in the foyers, at the entrance to every ward, and also at every bedside. There are huge posters and small signs everywhere reminding people to use the gel. Infections - including the dread MRSA - have been dramatically reduced in UK hospitals as a result.


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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2012, 02:12:49 PM »
Didn't the movie Contagion claim we touch our faces up to 3,000 times per day.  I thought that seemed like a lot, but we are fixing hair, rubbing gunk out of our eyes, scratching nose, resting our head on our hands, etc.  Still seems like a lot, but probably right.

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2012, 02:48:43 PM »
I've always found it very advantageous to obtain all of my medical facts from Hollywood films.
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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2012, 02:56:31 PM »
I face palm a couple of dozen times a day  ;) .

Offline emeraldize

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2012, 04:09:32 PM »
I'm with Ann. Have gel handy (especially being a teacher!) Otherwise, thorough handwashing. Agree with the no touchy of the eyes, nose, mouth, nail biting, cuticle gnawing, etc. and while in the mindset of prevention of bad seasonal stuff--get a flu shot. Oh yes, at work, have some antimicrobial wipes to periodically hit the copier, the common restroom doorplates/handles and, in your case--depending on classroom activities and hardware -- keyboards, door handles, shared markers, etc. It's staggering how many men/boys and women/girls, don't think to wash their paws. I've had fewer respiratory infections, of all sorts, post-diagnosis than pre-.

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2012, 04:31:39 PM »
Since I was dxd and put on meds, two years ago, I have not been sick at all. That being said, I use hand gel and am insane when it comes to washing my hands. I travel often and carry sanitizer with me and a couple of face masks should I be sitting next to someone hacking up a lung.
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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2012, 04:41:02 PM »
I never do any of these precautions, and I also take public transport 100% of the time and get to touch all of those lovely, germ-ridden metal poles you have to grab onto to keep from falling over, plus exit/entrance hand rails. There's just no point. I'd have to be scrubbing myself down constantly.

Flu sucks though, so I have always religiously gotten that shot yearly.

I've had respiratory infections yearly since I was a kid so I think there's not much to be done.
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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2012, 01:19:04 AM »
I've always found it very advantageous to obtain all of my medical facts from Hollywood films.

Once again, I did some searching after posting.  It seems many believe the 3,000 claim is probably not correct, but there aren't a lot of studies on this.  I found this:

"Wash your hands
Dr. Cramer on March 29th, 2012
Rhinoviruses are one of the primary causes of the common cold. What is the best way of stopping yourself from getting a cold from these viruses?

According to Julie Ackermanís book on the topic , exactly what we have been telling your for years: wash your hands with soap and water, and to stop touching your face!

Why? Rhinoviruses are naked viruses, which mean that hand sanitizers have very little effect on their ability to infect. A study out in 2010 looked at the differences in individual who were required to use hand sanitizers every three hours. Essentially their rate of infection was the same as individuals who did nothing to prevent infection (in the light of full disclosure, this study WAS funded by the Dial Corporation).  This is actually backed up by the CDC  which states that the best thing you can do is to physically wash your hands with soap and water. Hand sanitizers should only be used if soap and water is not available.

There is also a discrepancy in the Dial study from above,  in that they state these finding are true for other viruses, but gave no documentation regarding those viruses. Against organisms that have either an envelope (Influenza/Flu viruses) or plasma membranes (all bacteria), hand sanitizers DO work effectively kill these organisms. They just donít work well to stop naked viruses from infecting.

Secondly, rhinovirus can be transmitted by contacting a contaminated surface (a hand, or fomite) and then touching your eye and having virus flushed into the exact environment it wants to infect (it grows best at the lower temperatures of the sinus and upper respiratory cavity).  We touch our face about 200 to 600 times a day (The movie Contagion overstated this for dramatic purposes I think).

Take home message? Your Momma was right. Stop touching your face and wash your hands!"

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Offline harleymc

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2012, 02:39:18 AM »
The short answer is no.
AIDS has never been characterised by more common occurrence of colds and flu. It just ain't there on those AIDS defining lists of opportunistic infections.

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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2012, 05:06:58 AM »
A week ago I had my first "illness" since dxd with HIV. Guess what? It was a cold! :)

Been pretty active during the weekend and Monday I came down with a stuffy nose and fatigue, no fever however. Slept a lot for 2 days and then it got better from there. The only difference pre HIV I could possibly notice was that I was more tired and it took maybe an extra day to completely clear up.

I didnt take any OTC meds for the cold, just tried to relax, sleep and drink a lot of water.
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Re: Colds--Should I expect them more often?
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2012, 08:36:34 PM »

    I have had  HIV over half of my life now .

     Was diagnosed full blown AIDS  at one point .

     I have had ONE COLD in the past 8 years and it came from  the kids next
   door that were coughing and gagging  as we had dinner together  :-X

     Colds come from people that sneeze at you !   

    I do not  go near people or smile in public   :o 

     I wash my hands 50 times a day and never touch my eye ball  ;)

     or my face before washing with soapy water .

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