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Offline Runnyjj

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HIV risk, er visit, 4 different medications
« on: September 07, 2012, 09:26:34 AM »
On the early morning of September 3rd 2012 around 1 am I had unprotected sex with someone I later found was HIV +.  I am a gay male and I was on the receptive end during this encounter.  The guy was smaller than average in penis size and he did not last very long (probably 3 minutes).  He pulled out and then ejaculated about 7 seconds after.

Later on I found Atripla in his bathroom and confronted him about it.  He says he was infected 6 years ago and has been Undetectable and a count of 350 for a long time.  He has a partner for about 5 years that is negative and they are sexually active with eachother.

When I found out I went to the hospital and they gave me a HIV test and it came up negative.  They started me on PEP medicine (this is about 4 hours after exposure).  I was given Viread 300mg 1 tablet a day and Combivir 300 mg 1 tablet twice a day.  I took this till Wednesday afternoon to where I went to the HIV Clinic at the hospital.

The doctor changed my medicine to Truvada 200MG-300MG once daily and Kaletra 200MG-50MG 2 tablets twice a day.  I started this medicine on Wednesday night.  I however misread the label and then took only 1 Kaletra instead of the 2.  In the morning of Thursday I took 1 Kaletra.  In the evening of Thursday I realized I misread the label and took 2 Kaletra though I forgot to take the Truvada because I was used to taking the other medicine in the morning (Iíve also not been thinking straight and been very stressed, I made a mistake).  On Friday morning I came to my senses and took 2 Kaletra and 1 Truvada and set a plan so I wouldnít mess it up and thatís the regiment I will stick too.  I will take the 3 pills every morning with food at 8am then the 2 pills every evening at 6pm for the 1 month period.

I am positive I have no risk from any other person except this one guy who assured me, because he was undetectable for so long, on Atripla and never misses a dose and has a partner of 5 years who is negative and he didnít ejaculate in me that I am no risk.

I currently do not have any HIV symptoms that were not present pre-exposure and am dealing well with the medicine besides the desire to lay in bed constantly and sleep the day away, but hey I think thats just because I think I have HIV and am depressed.

My question is, what is my risk? Iíve read that undetectable people are almost impossible to transmit sexually.  Also I read about messing up the PEP, did I screw up my chances by taking the medicine at wrong times?

I have pressed charges against him criminally and plan to civilly sue him as well since he told me he was clean and did not plan on telling me he was positive (but legal advice is not why Iím here).

To make matters more interesting I did have a case 1 year ago of very mild genital warts (penile and anal) which are now clear, I was tested and they found HPV because they did a biopsy on one of the warts.  Again that was about a year ago.
Any blunt comments would be appreciated.

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Re: HIV risk, er visit, 4 different medications
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2012, 09:40:08 AM »
Run,

Why are you pressing charges when it is YOUR responsibility to protect yourself and insist on condoms? It's your body and your responsibility to remain hiv negative. You bear equal responsibility for what happened. Perhaps you should sue yourself as well.

Have you ever considered how many guys you've possibly fucked without protection who also said they were "clean" (a reprehensible way to describe a person's sexual status, by the way) but were actually hiv positive and didn't even know it? A person can't accurately inform you of their hiv status when they don't know themselves.

You're at far greater risk from someone who only "thinks" they're hiv negative and therefore is not on treatment. Also, a person who is very newly infected can have a viral load in the millions and that is MUCH more dangerous to you than someone who has been on treatment for years with an undetectable viral load.

Your risk is extremely minimal and the missed doses you've had aren't going to make a bit of difference. You'd be highly unlikely to end up positive over this incident even if you didn't take PEP.

Truvada on its own is also an effective PEP regimen, so stop worrying.

And please re-think your legal issue and take your share of responsibility for what happened. As a bottom, you're not only at risk for hiv when taking it raw, but all the other STIs out there as well. Get a clue already and start insisting on condoms.

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Re: HIV risk, er visit, 4 different medications
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2012, 10:35:25 AM »
Thanks for the info but the legal aspect but in my state its criminal what had happened.  The states attorney already accepted the case on my behalf.

Regardless of that, I thank you for the information about the risk.  When should I get tested and how accurate would those tests be? 1 week 2 weeks, 1 month etc?

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Re: HIV risk, er visit, 4 different medications
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 11:38:43 AM »
Run,

The law is an ass. Just because some ignorant legislators put these hiv criminalisation laws on the books doesn't make them right. They do absolutely NOTHING to decrease the transmission rates and studies have shown that they can actually contribute to the rise in transmission rates because they make people afraid to test.

Now if you were raped, that would be another matter entirely. But you weren't raped. You engaged in a consensual sex act and you did nothing to protect yourself. If he should be prosecuted, then so should you for gross negligence.

I hope you're proud of yourself - you're planning on completely ruining someone else's life for something that not only did you consent to, but was also not putting you in any real and present danger. 

You asked for blunt feedback and that's exactly what I'm giving you. You're a rather sad individual if you want to ruin someone else's life for something YOU should have taken responsibility for by insisting on condoms. But no, your barebacking pleasure was more important to you than your own health and now you want to blame everyone but your self for the consequences. I don't know how you live with yourself.

The earliest you should test is at six weeks following your last dose of PEP. Provided that is negative - and it will be - that should be confirmed at the three month point.

If you wanted sympathy or validation of your legal actions, you came to the wrong place.

Ann
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Re: HIV risk, er visit, 4 different medications
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 01:39:27 PM »
Just to chime in and add that you chose to have unprotected sex.

Your PEP, combined with the extremely unlikely event of your partner even having a detectable viral load, will undoubtedly result in a negative outcome for you, virally speaking. I only wish it were negative in other ways as well. Karma and all that.

Congratulations on being a reprehensible, immature, and vindictive person who would see others pay dearly for your own choices. Your behavior in this regard is monstrous, and it is my opinion that you are a large part of the HIV pandemic. What a disgusting story, what a terrible thing to do to someone else.

I wish nothing but food poisoning on you.

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