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Author Topic: PEP for dipping? Quick!  (Read 628 times)

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PEP for dipping? Quick!
« on: September 18, 2016, 03:07:31 PM »
To cut a long story short, I met up with a transsexual girl today. I topped her with a condom, unprotected oral both ways.

Then she gave me a massage, and was rubbing her cock on my anus, and I *think* she penetrated. I immediately pushed her off. This lasted around 1-3 seconds.

I know most people say that you know, but her penis was very very small, and there was a lot of lube involved.

So, no ejaculation, possible penetration of unknown depth. What do we think? Pep?

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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2016, 03:29:12 PM »
Hi

Look "if" you had unprotected penetration its a risk. That's about as much as I can say, well that and test in 6 & 13 weeks, don't forget to test for other STI's

On the PEP side all I can really say is taking PEP is up to you and your Doctor, do note that if you are considering PEP you should start taking this as soon as possible after exposure starting no later than 48-72 hours post exposure.
It's up to you at the end of the day to decide to take PEP for this incident.

To be honest I would be surprised if a doctor would give you PEP, i personally would not for this incident but then again its not my risk and as said it is up to you at the end of the day and the doctor.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions. As you are sexually active, it is highly recommended that you get a full sexual health check-up / screening at least annually including but not limited to hiv testing.

Remember that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's. So please do get fully tested regularly for all STI's including HIV and more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs. Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Finally use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, to avoid sexually transmitted hiv infection.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2016, 03:34:39 PM »
Thank you.

Does the length of exposure matter?

Would you forego pep? I know you can't comment really but off the record so to speak?

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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2016, 04:00:40 PM »
Well the longer it happens the more opportunity or exposure there is.
EDIT: Not that its really important, it simply was a risk "if" you indeed had unprotected intercourse be it 5 seconds or 5 hours. 

To be honest I would be surprised if a doctor would give you PEP, i personally would not for this incident but then again its not my risk and as said it is up to you at the end of the day and the doctor.


Whatever you do it really is up to you at the end of the day.

Jim
« Last Edit: September 18, 2016, 04:04:08 PM by JimDublin »
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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 09:17:29 AM »
I went for pep in the end. Started roughly 23hrs post exposure. The doctor felt that the risk was low, and that it probably wasn't necessary, but he agreed anyway.

Surely all risks are either a risk or not a risk, and as such should warrant treatment or no treatment respectively.

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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 11:34:48 AM »
Depends on your point of view, now I suspect you would have been fine without the PEP but as I said not that its really important, it simply was a risk "if" you indeed had unprotected intercourse be it 5 seconds or 5 hours. 
 
I wish you all the best with the PEP and testing post finishing the PEP.

Jim
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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2016, 07:53:29 AM »
Hello again,

I'm sorry to bombard you all, but I could really do with a little reassurance risk wise.

I know you guys don't do odds, but I'd appreciate an idea of how much risk I'm at.

Brief unprotected anal dipping for less than three seconds, no ejaculation. PEP initiated 23 hours later.

I'm struggling to focus on work at this point.

Thanks in advance

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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2016, 08:05:46 AM »
Hi, I can't speculate on odds but I will tell you PEP has an excellent record of preventing HIV.  Considering it was low risk to begin with I suspect you will be fine.

Best, Wade
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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2016, 08:09:29 AM »
Was it low risk to begin with? Receptive anal?

I'm just so anxious. I keep having panic attacks it's driving me mad.

Foolishly read up on PEP failures, and the reason often being route of transmission; receptive anal.

1/100, 1/1000, 1/100000? All scary

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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2016, 08:20:49 AM »
Stop googling , I can't help you with your anxiety and asking the same question in a different way will not change the answer.
Continue taking your PEP and in the future have safer sex.

Wade
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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2016, 10:47:30 AM »
Some suggest that HIV becomes inactive as soon as it hits air.

Surely any precum on her penis would have been exposed to air before entering me, thus rendering it inactive?

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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2016, 10:55:37 AM »
That is correct , the virus does not survive once exposed to air.  However the precum that was ejaculated once inside would be infectious.

Wade
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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2016, 10:57:57 AM »
Agreed. Having said that, how much precum can one produce, if any, in a couple of seconds? Wouldn't this active precum also need to have a clear exit route? I.e no inactive precum in front of it?

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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2016, 11:10:11 AM »
Your risk was low and you're on PEP ...
We have given you an assessment and answered all pertinent questions.
Time to move on and test upon completion of PEP.
A negative result is conclusive at 13 weeks.

Wade
« Last Edit: September 21, 2016, 11:16:40 AM by Wade »
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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2016, 11:12:27 AM »
Thanks. I'm trying to rationalise it to quell my anxiety. I appreciate I'm asking you questions that you cannot possibly answer. Simply trying to minimise the risk mentally.

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Re: PEP for dipping? Quick!
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2016, 11:16:04 AM »
You're Welcome
From what you have posted you will come out of this okay.

Best, Wade
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