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Offline allecc

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Oral swollen lymph node cough diarrhea
« on: October 20, 2011, 09:34:36 AM »
On Sept. 16 I met a guy from the internet who claimed to be hiv- and clean.  He also claimed to be married, but no ring and white- but he was clearly mixed race.  He rimmed me and then I am not sure if he fingered me or put his dick in me.  This is the first time I have ever done anything anal and Im 43 and married.  This lasted about 5-10 minutes and then I gave him oral.  He didn't come and finally told me that he had already cum "on me".  I thought that was weird since I didn't feel anything.  He left.  I immediatedly took a wash cloth and soap and washed my annus and took a shower.  I got worried and research PEP and went to a clinic and they put me on Reyatase, truveda, and norvir for 28 days. I started exactly 12 hours after the incident but I only took 17 days.   My test was negative that day.  

In the meantime, I started having trouble breathing that I thought was due to allergy.  Went to doc and they gave me prednisone.  Took that and helped just a bit.  Went back to my doc (whom I didn't tell about this incident) and she took a chest xray and found that I have right pehicular infiltrates, with fever, chills, night sweats, headache.  No rash and lymph nodes not abnormal.  She prescribed antibiotic and for me to come back next week.

Went back to clinic on Oct 14th and my test was negative.  (28 days after incident)

Does this mean now that PEP has warn off Im in ARS?  Can I be in ARS and test negative?  What are my chances that I am hiv infected?  I am going crazy and worried about my wife and kids and what to do.  Is 17 days of PEP any good?   They want me to get tested again in December should I do it earlier since I have all these symptoms?

Please advise,
« Last Edit: October 20, 2011, 09:37:20 AM by allecc »

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Re: scared
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 10:20:20 AM »
OK, do yourself a favor an take some good deep and slow breaths right now. I mean it. Do that NOW! And then we can talk some. Remember to do that whenever you find yourself tensing up.

You've thrown a lot of fears, doubts, details and prejudices into the mix here. Bottom line is that I'm by no means persuaded that you actually were penetrated by the other guy. Since you had never had anal before, I think you would definitely felt it if his penis had penetrated you. But that's guessing and HIV is never something to guess about. So testing is necessary.

You need to count the time for testing from when you stopped taking PEP. That means you can test initially at 6 weeks after you stopped taking it. You took it for a significant period so that will be helpful. Assuming you test negative at 6 weeks, it is very likely you will test negative again at 13 weeks for a conclusive negative result.

There is nothing HIV specific about the symptoms you are reporting. If you were going through ARS you would test postive. And I don't see what you are repoting as being ARS.

Now, breathe. Really.
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Re: scared
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 09:50:42 AM »
Thanks for the response.   I have contacted this person by email and asked him if he penetrated me and where did he cum.  He refuses to answer except to say he isn't hiv + and that he is clean and negative as of a month ago before our hook up and he won't answer me anymore.   That is why I am so worried.  I definitely felt some pain in my anus but at the time thought it was his finger (it was dark & couldn't see anything).  Because he said he cum and I couldnt find it anywhere, I am assuming he came in me.

My doc says I have pnemonia now.  I feel like ive been run over by a truck.  Could this be because my viral load is high and weakend my system if Im going thru ARS?   Also, if he did cum in me and he does have HIV how likely am I to get it after taking PEP for only 17 days instead of the 28 days?  I have seen estimates as low as 1-30 exposures to 50 -10,000 exposures.  Which is correct?  Is there any info on how long the virus stays in your system after exposure and I m wondering if the 17 days of PEP is a lil helpful or a lot of helpful?


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Re: scared
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 10:02:55 AM »
Chasing after the other guy is not going to help you so give up on that. Nor is gathering statistics. Obviously you're looking for reassurance but the hard fact is that only your own test result taken at the proper time is going to give you the answer you want. You can test initially a 6 weeks after you stopped taking PEP. A negative at that point means you will most likely continue to test negative.

Having pneumonia is not an HIV specific occurence. Clarify with the doctor what kind of pneumonia you have.

I know this is a hard waiting time for you to get through. You need to work hard at focusing on other things in your life. It will make the waiting time much more acceptable than you may imagine is possible. And saying you're too worried to do that is not going to fly here. Just do it.
Andy Velez

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Oral swollen lymph node cough diarrhea
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2012, 03:39:50 PM »
I have had 4 recent encounters giving oral and swallowing with male strangers.  They all came in my mouth and I swallowed.  At least two of those incidents were after 10 mins of me brushing my teeth and using mouthwash and having an open ulcer in my mouth.   Now 28 days from the last episode I haven a swollen lymph node in my neck, diarrhea, and fatigue.  Went to Doc and am being tested for all STI's.   Results be be back on Tuesday.   

My question is given my unique circumstances can I be the exception to your rule of getting HIV through oral sex?  CDC reports as much as 10% contract HIV through oral sex, are they that wrong?  Help

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Re: Oral swollen lymph node cough diarrhea
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2012, 03:57:24 PM »
I have had 4 recent encounters giving oral and swallowing with male strangers.  They all came in my mouth and I swallowed.  At least two of those incidents were after 10 mins of me brushing my teeth and using mouthwash and having an open ulcer in my mouth.   Now 28 days from the last episode I haven a swollen lymph node in my neck, diarrhea, and fatigue.  Went to Doc and am being tested for all STI's.   Results be be back on Tuesday.   

My question is given my unique circumstances can I be the exception to your rule of getting HIV through oral sex?  CDC reports as much as 10% contract HIV through oral sex, are they that wrong?  Help

Your circumstances are far from unique. And seriously, if they WERE unique, it would be impossible to assess your risk, would it not?

Giving oral sex presents only the most negligible risk, bordering on the theoretical.
There have been three long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

You can, however, easily get any of the other STIs through giving oral. Having a panel done regularly is a good idea. One caveat to your timetable: syphilis has a three month testing window.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Offline allecc

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Re: Oral swollen lymph node cough diarrhea
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 04:05:50 PM »
So I take it you think my risk of contracting HIV through these recent hookups are noT very likely? 

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Re: Oral swollen lymph node cough diarrhea
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 04:12:18 PM »
So I take it you think my risk of contracting HIV through these recent hookups are noT very likely? 

I would think your chance of contracting HIV through giving oral sex under all but the most extreme circumstances (google "meth mouth") is nil.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: Oral swollen lymph node cough diarrhea
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2012, 04:18:37 AM »
Alec,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep everything in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.




Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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