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Offline sofkinscared

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Please Asses My Risk... Thank You
« on: June 11, 2012, 07:17:32 AM »
Hey,

I am a 22 year old male from North America. During this past weekend I visited an Asian Massage Parlor. While in the missionary position, I realized that the condom had come off cause it felt too damn good so I pulled out and sure enough - the condom had come off. I was probably inside her raw for around 15-30 seconds MAXIMUM. At this point, she put on another condom, one which I had brought with me and we finished.

Everything I read online is reassuring about the chances of getting HIV from one time vaginal intercourse, especially when a condom is involved. Despite everything I read, I am nervous that I may have caught HIV. Advice Please :)



« Last Edit: June 11, 2012, 07:19:04 AM by sofkinscared »

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Re: Please Asses My Risk... Thank You
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 07:22:40 AM »
You can obtain your conclusive test result 3 months post exposure.

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Re: Please Asses My Risk... Thank You
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 07:59:20 AM »
Even IF the woman in question was HIV+, the likelihood of transmission during the one and mostly protected incident is unlikely. HIV is harder to transmit from female to male than the other way around. And this was a single, mostly protected incident.

You can if you want to test initially at 6 weeks. If you get a negative result, then you will very likely continue to test negative at 3 months for a conclusive result.

I expect you to come out of this ok.

Good luck and keep us posted.
Andy Velez

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Re: Please Asses My Risk... Thank You
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2012, 09:56:38 AM »
Andy I thank you for the reassuring words. It is comforting to hear those words applied to my situation.

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Re: Please Asses My Risk... Thank You
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2012, 10:48:10 AM »
You're welcome. Meantime while waiting to test make a real effort to focus on other things in your life. It will make the waiting time pass more easily than you may imagine is possible.
Andy Velez

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Re: Please Asses My Risk... Thank You
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 02:03:07 PM »
Logically I should just wait for the 3 month mark to test, correct?

I'll hopefully remember to come back here so I can post my results, as it may help comfort the fear of someone who is going through a similar situation.

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Re: Please Asses My Risk... Thank You
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 02:17:33 PM »
Logically I should just wait for the 3 month mark to test, correct?


That depends on how you feel about waiting. As Andy told you, the earliest you should test is at six weeks. The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days.

A six week negative must be confirmed at the three month point, but is highly unlikely to change.

So, if you're going to be miserable waiting for three months, test at six weeks for peace of mind. I fully expect you to test negative, but you do need to test to make sure. Your hiv status is never something to guess about.

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Re: Please Asses My Risk... Thank You
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2012, 04:36:28 PM »
Thanks Ann for your replies, you seem to be very knowledgeable and help out many people on this forum :) Same goes to you too Andy :)

Do you know any statistics of Asian Massage Parlors, and Vaginal Sex where the condom breaks?

Thanks again for you time in helping me.

(Edit) I don't know if this is considered a break, but I think the condom actually slipped off of my penis, because when I pulled out the condom was stuck inside her. Does this make a difference?
« Last Edit: June 11, 2012, 05:42:00 PM by sofkinscared »

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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2012, 08:07:18 AM »
scared,

No, I don't know of any such statistics. However, I do know that a correctly used condom rarely breaks. In my whole life it's only happened to me once, and it happened because we weren't using enough lube. And yes, it was VERY obvious when it happened. NO, he did not become infected (he didn't test specifically over the incident, he just waited until it was time for his regular, routine sexual health check up).

Part of the correct use of a condom is to hold on to it when you withdraw. If you don't and you've gone soft after ejaculation, chances are good that it will be left behind. It is not a risk when this happens. Make sure you read through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use them correctly and with confidence.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2012, 08:58:11 PM »
Thanks again for your reply and helpful words, this is going to be my last question (i promise)

How do you feel about the HIV DNA by PCR tests? They seem to be able to detect the virus much much sooner. I don't mind paying the extra money for peace of mind.

Thanks for your time. I'll absolutely check out your links about proper condom use, I'm one who rarely uses them with my past gf's, only reason I would wear them is if i'm with a CSW. Though from reading these forums, it has become very apparent that it is vital for me to wear them with all sex acts.

If I do not go with the HIV DNA by PCR Test, I am going to use one of the Rapid HIV Tests around 4 weeks post exposure.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2012, 08:59:56 PM by sofkinscared »

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Re: Please Asses My Risk... Thank You
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2012, 11:13:45 PM »
PCR-DNA are not approved dianostic HIV tests. There are no home approved rapid HIV tests.

Offline sofkinscared

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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2012, 03:39:16 AM »
Hey RapidRod, I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question.

I understand that they are not "approved" tests for diagnostic purposes, but it does and can give a test result. For this reason I have found that they are used in the Adult Film Industry to test the Actors.

I think you may have misread my post, I do not plan on taking an at home rapid hiv test. I would go to a testing location that offers a rapid HIV test approximately 4 weeks after exposure.

The possible reason for me getting the DNA test is to alleviate my anxiety, the only thing holding me back is all of the conflicting information I read about them online. Especially the false positive - I don't know if I could handle that kind of emotional roller coaster. The benefit I see to taking that test is that a negative result is a negative result. The test is apparently very sensitive in that it will pick up the virus if it is there. Is this correct?
« Last Edit: June 13, 2012, 03:48:21 AM by sofkinscared »

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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2012, 06:36:23 AM »
See that is where you are wrong. What you can get is a false positive from a PCR-DNA test.

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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2012, 10:31:09 AM »
Scared,

While DNA PCR tests are not approved for diagnostics because of the high rate of false positive results, the RNA PCR tests are approved. However, ANY result on an RNA test must still be confirmed with antibody testing at the appropriate time. There are NO short cuts to hiv testing. Deal with it.

You've had a very low risk and PCR testing would be a waste of time, money and resources. You do not need PCR testing.

We've already told you that the earliest you should test is at six weeks. If you want to ignore our advice, I don't understand why you bother posting.

Re-read your entire thread before posting again. Our answers are not going to change.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2012, 09:40:31 PM »
I'm not trying to cause any problems, I'm just nervous that's all. I can't sleep at night, when I lay down it is the only thing I can think of. Any tips on how to possibly get my mind off of this until test day?

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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2012, 08:35:50 AM »
scared,

Get busy with other things and stay off hiv internet websites - this one included. Exercise and tire yourself out. Ask your doctor (or a doctor in your nearest emergency room) for a referral to a therapist or counselor you can talk this over with. Alternatively, use poz.com's Health Services Directory to find an ASO (aids service organisation) near you - they may have someone you can talk to.

There's only so much we can do in this setting. We're not here to hold you hand while you wait to test.

You are seriously unlikely to end up hiv positive over this brief insertive incident, so chill out.

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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