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Offline john88

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Oral-related question
« on: May 29, 2012, 09:36:30 AM »
So last year I learned my lesson.  I had unprotected vag sex with a prostitute.  Thankfully tested negative 3 months post exposure.

Since then, always used condoms for vaginal sex.

Also read here that going down on the woman isn't a risk.

However, I have a specific possible incident I worry about,

This happened 2 days ago. 

I gave the woman oral and we also had protected vaginal sex.  After this was done, I saw there was some blood on the toilet seat in the bathroom (she went right before I did after our sex).  This lead me to believe that she might've been on her period without saying anything or her not knowing.  I also worry I may have had a cut on my lips or inside gums behind the lips, both areas that had direct contact with her vagina and maybe blood, if there was any.  I am not sure as the lights were low.

If she was bleeding and I had an open cut in my mouth, would that have been a risk?


Thanks for your time.

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2012, 09:51:37 AM »
Nothing you mention here in any way changes our assessment of cunnilingus as a no-risk activity as regards to HIV.
"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 01:54:12 PM »
As JK has indicated, giving oral to a woman is not a risk even if she is having her period. Your saliva has over a dozen elements and proteins which very effectively prevent the transmission of viable HIV.

There's no need for further concern or for testing over this incident.
Andy Velez

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 08:49:23 PM »
Thank you both

Offline john88

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2012, 09:30:11 PM »
I'm a moron...

So I stayed safer this whole year since the unprotected incident I posted about. (Meaning I've used a condom every single time I did vaginal sex).

Today, that streak ended. I had sex the first time using a condom. Nothing for oral, but I don't worry about hiv for that act based on reading the info here.

The lady allowed me to get off a second time. We started with oral again, and I fingered her while this was going on. I did feel lots of fluids. I couldn't finish the second time, so she allowed me vaginal again.  She didn't have anymore condoms. I guess she didn't expect more than 1 client or for me to go twice. I hesitated for a moment, but the physical took over and we had unprotected vaginal sex.  Within less than a minute, I pulled out without ejaculating and told her it was okay and I was a bit tired. Truth is I began to worry and didn't want to add more risk by staying in for a longer time.

I'm guessing I will need to test at 13 weeks.

I'm wondering if pep would be a good idea?  I have no idea if she allows other clients to go bareback or if it was just a rare instance with me this one time.  I see her about once a month, but she's never offered me bareback before.


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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2012, 09:34:29 PM »
Yes you will need to test 3 months post exposure.

Offline john88

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2012, 09:35:11 PM »
Not sure if this lowers risk in any way, but after I pulled out I wiped my penis dry and urinated within 5 minutes.

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2012, 09:36:53 PM »
Yes you will need to test 3 months post exposure.

Thanks, I will have to keep my mind busy till september.. I just wanna kick myself

Do you think pep is necessary?
« Last Edit: June 03, 2012, 09:43:40 PM by john88 »

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2012, 12:07:04 AM »
Not sure if this lowers risk in any way, but after I pulled out I wiped my penis dry and urinated within 5 minutes.

This makes absolutely no difference in terms of risk. Your risk was on the low end of the scale, but it was a risk nonetheless. While I personally would not recommend PEP over this incident, I would recommend a test at three months. A six weeks' test will be all but conclusive however.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Offline john88

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 05:33:26 PM »
Thanks, jkin.  I definitely respect your response.  Just wondered if the other moderators  think that for this particular situation, if pep is needed.

I understand I will need to test either way....
« Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 05:36:11 PM by john88 »

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2012, 07:07:48 PM »
Thanks, jkin.  I definitely respect your response.  Just wondered if the other moderators  think that for this particular situation, if pep is needed.

I understand I will need to test either way....
You do not meet the guidelines for nPEP.

Offline john88

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2012, 12:24:58 PM »
I was just curious if I am allowed to PM or interact with members in other sections of the forums.  If so, which ones?  I didn't want to break any rules or get reported and get banned. 

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Re: Oral-related question
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2012, 03:08:19 PM »
Our WELCOME THREAD That you should have read - the one that states

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Do NOT use Private Messages to question other members about any transmission, testing or symptom issues. These issues must be discussed in the public forum. Misuse of the PM function in this manner will result in your PM privileges being removed without warning.

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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