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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2006, 10:05:17 AM »
Cad,

Of course it's a "good sign", any negative result is. This isn't "opinion", it's fact. It's also fact that the PCR tests have a high rate of FALSE positive results - so I hope you're not planning on using that test again. You were lucky this time, but you might not be next time. ANY result from PCR testing MUST be confirmed with ELISA testing anyway, so you might as well sit tight for your six week ELISA test - which I'm fully expecting to be negative as well.

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2006, 10:36:42 PM »
I have a question about window period and what it means. in the forum i learned average seroconversion is 22 days what does that really mean does it mean that in 22 days most of the people will test positive on an antibody test (which is call seroconversion correct???) what is the altest generation for test 4th?  is that the most powerful one. is Oraquick blood sample a 4th genretaion or older? thank you all

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2006, 11:16:06 PM »
any responses or ideas?

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2006, 11:27:18 PM »
cad,

Average doesn't necessarily mean most, but it does mean many. Some people will test positive earlier than and some will test positive later than 22 days. MOST - nearly all, will test positive by six weeks. The window period is three months to catch the rare person who takes slightly longer than six weeks to test positive.

Don't start getting hung up on what generation a test is. It doesn't matter one little bit at three months - in fact it only really matters in the first few weeks. All these mental gymnastics you're trying to do aren't going to change the fact that you need further testing. You are likely to continue to test negative.

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PS - don't be so impatient. It's late on a friday night after all - in fact it's 4:30 am where I am. You're going to have to be patient waiting for the correct time to test as well. That's just how life is.
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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2006, 11:57:19 PM »
ann thank you so much for your response and I highly respect how much effort you are putting in helping people like me in the forum. you are very right I need to hold tight for another 15 days I am on my day 30 today and just go from there. especially since I received a negative from a dna pcr. I mean although its not a correct diagnosis procedure its still a good sign and you are damn right i was lucky this time not to get a positive that could even have been a false one.

thanks again for everything have a wonderful weekend and happy halloween:)


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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2006, 11:38:53 AM »
Cadera, you need to do yourself a big favor and stop your "researching" about HIV.

Doing that stuff will only feed your anxiety without giving you the definitive reassurance that you are seeking.

Given that you had a single and brief exposure with someone whom you don't even know for sure to be HIV+, the great likelihood is that you are going to test negative. HIV is not an easy virus to transmit. It's significantly harder to accomplish from female to male. Taking all of that into consideration I expect you will test negative.

So between now and the time when you test you need to stay productively busy and by busy I don't mean on the net looking for symptoms and other stuff which will only feed your fears.

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #56 on: October 31, 2006, 02:22:03 PM »
Hi everyone,

i could not stay too still I went and go an antibody test ORA quick advance looking for hiv 1-2 through ORAL swab test. came back negative at 33 days after possible exposure. I hope this is a good sign since average people seroconvert at 22 days. I eat healthy drink sometimes so I assume my immune system is doing its job in terms of creating antibodies when neccesary

any opinions on my results

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Antibody Oraquick Oral swab at 33 days Negative

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2006, 04:08:30 PM »
any opinions?

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2006, 04:21:16 PM »
After all you've read on this website and countless others you went and took a PCR test. What do you want us to say. You would really be flipping out if you would have received a false positive. I don't think our opinion's or knowledge really matters to you any way.

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« Reply #59 on: November 01, 2006, 07:37:42 PM »
all of u have really been amazing support. excuse my anxiety that resulsted in taking a pcr dna test. I needed to do soemthing get tested something because i was really going out of control. I will still apriciate comments on my 33 day result. I know its still ealry but hopefully its a good indicationg of final status

thanks everyone

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #60 on: November 02, 2006, 05:37:18 AM »
cad,

Any negative result is a good result and the odds are in your favour of continuing to test negative.

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #61 on: November 02, 2006, 10:53:34 PM »
In this case a PCR test shouldn't be needed. But I can't take into account your anxiety. If you want to take one, just be aware they can throw up the odd false positive test. How many months of your life and subsequent negative tests would it take for you to be convinced you are actually negative. People on this forum have had them come back positive and then test again negative about 20 times over the next few months (because their positive test was a false positive). I know you want a quick resolution, but just waiting for the 13 week window period to expire and taking a normal test is the best option. If you can't stand the wait then do what you must, just be aware of what I have said.

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #62 on: November 07, 2006, 01:28:16 PM »
I got tested today Rapid Blood Sample test the 20 min one.

At 40 days (5 weeks 5 days almost 6 weeks) Negative

what do you think

DNA PCR at 15 days Negative
Antibody Oraquick Oral swab at 33 days Negative
Antibody Blood 40 Days Negative
 

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2006, 08:21:35 PM »
Hi everyone

today I got a rash on my sking on face on teh chick this never happened to me before this kind of skin rash on my face. I  kind of see it as a symptom now

I got tested at 40 days with antibody ora quick 20 min test results were negative.

Please respond I think it might be seroconversion

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2006, 08:26:24 PM »
Symptoms come on 2-4 weeks after exposure. What you have is unrelated to HIV.

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #65 on: November 09, 2006, 08:22:05 PM »
thanks for the reply. its jsut soo unusual its huge patches of red on my face. never never ever had this before....?

is 40 days test good enough  backed uup with pcr dna at 15 days

i am so confused

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #66 on: November 09, 2006, 09:04:13 PM »
Test at 13 weeks and get your conclusive test.
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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #67 on: November 10, 2006, 10:17:58 AM »
Could not a negative antibody test be considered conclusive even before the 13 weeks, provided it is backed by an undetectable PCR??

My reasoning is as follows: a negative antibody test means that A) either the person was not hiv infected or B) the person was recently infected and still has not developed antibodies to the virus. But with an undetectable PCR, alternative B would have to be excluded, since the viral load is very high in recent infected people, for the very reason that the recently infected person still has not developed the antibodies that will fight HIV and lower the viral load. Then we would be left only with alternative A.

Is there any flaw with this reasoning??

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2006, 10:32:12 AM »
PCR DNA testing is not a FDA approved diagnostic test. The only test approved is an APTIMA(R) HIV-1 RNA test by Gen-Probe.

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #69 on: November 10, 2006, 05:49:31 PM »
APTIMA(R) HIV-1 RNA test by Gen-Probe.

do you know where this test could be taken in nyc???

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« Reply #70 on: November 10, 2006, 05:53:42 PM »
No I don't. This test was just recently approved by the FDA the first week of October.

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #71 on: November 10, 2006, 06:08:04 PM »
Cad,

The Aptima test is not to be used for routine hiv testing. It is only to be used in very specific instances, the criteria of which your case does not fit. Any result from the Aptima test must still be confirmed through standard ELISA testing.

The negative results you have thus far are highly unlikely to change.

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #72 on: November 23, 2006, 08:05:17 AM »
hi everyone

ı just a p24 test combo

both antigen anticore of the test came Negative

this test was taken when ı was on day 56 (8 weeks)

how good of a result is this can I almost say I am in good shape

DNA PCR at 15 days Negative
Antibody Oraquick Oral swab at 33 days Negative
Antibody Blood 40 Days Negative
p24 Combo 56 days Negative

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« Reply #73 on: November 23, 2006, 08:35:03 AM »
cad,

As you've been repeatedly told, your negative results are unlikely to change.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #74 on: December 08, 2006, 05:51:13 PM »
Hi everyone
I am on day 71 and I have a terrible flu cold temperture that get worse and worse byt time goes
I hade a mild flu for like 5 days and today it starting getting heavy

according to my test results how likely it is I am hiv +?

DNA PCR at 15 days Negative
Antibody Oraquick Oral swab at 33 days Negative
Antibody Blood 40 Days Negative
p24 Combo 56 days Negative

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« Reply #75 on: December 08, 2006, 06:45:54 PM »
cad,

How many times do you need to be told? Your results are unlikely to change. 71 days is too late for ARS. You've got the flu. If it doesn't shift in a day or so, see your doctor. It's got nothing to do with hiv.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #76 on: April 26, 2007, 04:29:45 PM »
hoi back again. my last test was on like my 50 something day with a p34 also which came back negative. today i have a big pain under my armpit and i can feel a node that has quite a mass to it. can this realte to hiv? i did not take a test after 90 days I am taking one tommorow which is probably going to be like day 180 or something like that. but how like is this it coudl have to do with hiv. during my last test i never had unprotected sex. only sticked my fingers in vagina which have some cuts that were not fresh.

I am just really worried and clueless. the bump under my armpit also has red marks on the skin

thanks everyone again

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« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2007, 04:34:50 PM »
One of the most eye-opening things about the Am I Infected Forum for me has been the discovery of just how many people there are in the world that take HIV tests on an almost recreational or sport level.

How many negative results do you aspire to receive?
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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2007, 04:37:45 PM »
 A simple antibody test at 3 months would have been conclusive.  I was unclear whether you have gone to 3 months or further, but you went overkill on the amount of testing you did.  A swollen lymph node is not specific for HIV.  There are a multitude of conditions that can cause that symptom.
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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #79 on: April 26, 2007, 04:39:04 PM »
P34?? Is that a new test? If you meant a P24 then you wasted your money. A P24 test must be taken within the first 3 weeks of a possible exposure.

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« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2007, 04:51:23 PM »
hi I have not takend the 90 day test I am going to take a test tommorow which will be like 6 monhts after my possible exposur. for the p34 that was a typo it is p24 when i took teh p24 it was a combo with an antibody test on day 57 i think came back negative.

So this thing under my arm pit has some pain also I can really feel teh pain. Do lymp nodes due to hiv have pain in them

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« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2007, 05:03:35 PM »
One of the most eye-opening things about the Am I Infected Forum for me has been the discovery of just how many people there are in the world that take HIV tests on an almost recreational or sport level.

How many negative results do you aspire to receive?


I repeat the above.  This will be what?  Five?  Six negative results for you?  More maybe?  You are willfully ignoring everything you are being told on this site, so I don't see what your point is for being here other than to entertain yourself somehow.  We're clearly wasting time and energy responding because you continually disregard what is said.  You tested negative time and again.  You've been told to move on time and again.  I certainly hope the cost for all these endless tests is coming directly from your own pocket instead of from either government funding or insurance because it is such a colossal waste.
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« Reply #82 on: September 03, 2007, 11:02:59 PM »
so guys I am soo stupid and I am back again...did not learn  my lesson...
i had unprotected full course sex with a girl that I kind of hung out for liek 2 weeks and these last few days we had sex. I did ask her about testing but did not tell me if she did get tested recently or not she is 29 I am 23. she is asian. I dont know what to say to my self about this I am sure if she has hiv I have very high chances of getting it because we had very long intercourses.

when we had the conversation it was a bit wierd and short but i was like I got tested few months ago and I know i am hiv - and she was like its stupid of me to have sex with you without a condom but also said likewise when I was talking to her abour testing.

I am sensing she is pretty reponsible but dont know

so i dont know what to say about this what the odds are she is hiv +. i know it kind of sounds stupid but how do you sense my situation?

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« Reply #83 on: September 04, 2007, 05:49:35 AM »
Cad,

You should know the drill by now. You need to test at three months for a conclusive result. Re-read your entire thread - particularly reply #2.

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« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2007, 01:35:10 PM »
you are right Ann. to start with I should not even put my self in this risk. not very thoughtful of me. I guess I will take a test in like a month since I have read many people to seroconvert by 21 days.

do you think its worth taking the DNA PCR?

thanks

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« Reply #85 on: September 04, 2007, 02:11:08 PM »
Cad,

A DNA PCR is NOT approved for diagnostic purposes as they have a high rate of returning FALSE positive results. Don't waste your time or money on one of these tests.

Don't expect to come here every day to wring your hands over your waiting period either. You knew the risk, you took that risk, now it's time for you to deal with the consequence of having to go through the window period. It's not like we haven't been here before with you.

It's high time you took responsibility for your actions and quit playing roulette with your health.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #86 on: September 05, 2007, 10:51:12 PM »
dear all

thanks for your quick replies and still i am clueless on how i took this risk. My question is I have read many posts and as far as I understand a test a 21 days is somewhat a good sign followed up by a 45 day test which seems like from what i have read is in 45 days the vast and majority people will seroconvert by that. Even 21 days seems to be an average...

so please tell me if i take a test in 21 days or so will give me an idea or put my mind to ease at all?

also I would like to get the girl I had sex with tested. because if she comes out negative the odds are i cant get hiv from. what is the best way to approach this and bring it up since its a sensitive subject. She is not like my girl friend or dont know if its going to go there. I met her at my friends party we hung out that night made out and nothing else after 2 weeks of keeping in touch and a bit of hanging out we slept.

so sorry to give you all these details. I feel bad because you guys are not like a free counseling service...

As i said in my post she mentioned she got checked before but we did not get into details there like did u get tested for hiv...all i said was i get tested and I am fine ( i got tested like 4 months ago) and she said likewise so i dont know what that exactly means. Please give me some direction in this

thanks for your time all

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« Reply #87 on: September 05, 2007, 11:00:34 PM »
Cadera,

A conclusive negative result can only be delivered by a three month test. You took the risks now you have to live with the consequences. You can't bargain your way out of this.

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« Reply #88 on: September 06, 2007, 04:59:50 PM »
thanks for the respond i would appriciate and opinion though. I had a little chat with the girl mentioning stds again yesterday and she was like on my end I am good and she also she was like I appriciate the fact that you are kind of freaked out by having sex without  a condom...so i dont know what that means I dont think she would lie to me and if she says i am std free she probably got tested at some point at least

i mean still we are talking with lots of parameters...

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« Reply #89 on: September 06, 2007, 05:50:42 PM »
Cad,

The ONLY way to know YOUR hiv status is to test at three months.

Don't expect us to hold your hand until that time comes. One incident is understandable, but to come here again with another incident where you've thrown caution to the wind, well, it wears thin. You're just going to have to suck it up and wait out the window period. There's nothing new we can add to what we told you the first time around anyway.

As I told you a YEAR ago:

You need to start using condoms and stop playing roulette with your life and health.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #90 on: September 10, 2007, 06:09:15 PM »
i hear you all...I guess now its jsut sit wait suck it up and get a result in like 6 weeks first

today i got some heat waves in my body is that a sign?? or the beggining of my body trying to fight over the virus slowly?

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #91 on: September 10, 2007, 06:18:18 PM »
Cad,

I suggest you read what we told you last year about symptoms. There's nothing new to say to you, so just keep re-reading your thread until it sinks in.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #92 on: September 13, 2007, 10:26:34 AM »
hi ann

to just to double check i amhaving the sore throat and kind of keeps building up but not to a point that it got very uncomfortable...ifa flu or sore throat is a symptom would it be light weight sore throat or flu or something heavy?

thanks for your time again. i just want to double check with you i read things but its a bit cloudy in my head

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Re: Few questions about my risk
« Reply #93 on: September 13, 2007, 12:17:01 PM »
cad,

If your sore throat worries you, go to your doctor and discuss it there. We cannot diagnose you here.

And one more time, re-read your entire thread again and again until it sinks in. There's nothing new to tell you that we didn't tell you the first time around concerning symptoms or window periods or whatever.

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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