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Offline Dachshund

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OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« on: May 09, 2012, 03:45:14 PM »
President Obama tells ABC news that he thinks gay marriage should be legal.

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 03:52:47 PM »
He's not doing enough for the gay community. If he really cared about gay people he would marry someone gay himself.

I'm disappointed in the President and will not vote for him this November.
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Offline Rev. Moon

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 04:32:08 PM »
He's not doing enough for the gay community. If he really cared about gay people he would marry someone gay himself.

And to make even more of a statement he should marry a pozzum. 

But yeah, he's not doing enough.
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 04:52:25 PM »
He's not doing enough for the gay community. If he really cared about gay people he would marry someone gay himself.

I'm disappointed in the President and will not vote for him this November.

There's just no pleasing some folks.  ;D

After the shrub proposed a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage and mittens also supports the same amendment, I'm beyond proud of our president.  We wanted leadership and President Obama has chosen the right side of the debate.  Equality for all.  What a concept.

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 05:15:35 PM »
I think something like 20-25% of gays in exit polling, last 3 presidential election cycles, have voted Republican. It will be interesting to see if this changes that. I'm going to say "no" :(

also, this:

GOProud puts out a statement that reads: “It is good to see that after intense political pressure that President Obama has finally come around to the Dick Cheney position on marriage equality. I am sure, however, the president’s newly discovered support for marriage is cold comfort to the gay couples in North Carolina. The president waited until after North Carolina passed a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. This is hardly a profile in courage by President Obama. For years now, President Obama has tried his hardest to have it both ways on this issue. The real kudos here goes to LGBT activists and their allies who finally forced the president into yielding on this issue.”

well, la-dee-da ::)
« Last Edit: May 09, 2012, 06:02:16 PM by Miss Philicia »
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 07:59:37 PM »
I think something like 20-25% of gays in exit polling, last 3 presidential election cycles, have voted Republican. It will be interesting to see if this changes that. I'm going to say "no" :(

also, this:

GOProud puts out a statement that reads: “It is good to see that after intense political pressure that President Obama has finally come around to the Dick Cheney position on marriage equality. I am sure, however, the president’s newly discovered support for marriage is cold comfort to the gay couples in North Carolina. The president waited until after North Carolina passed a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. This is hardly a profile in courage by President Obama. For years now, President Obama has tried his hardest to have it both ways on this issue. The real kudos here goes to LGBT activists and their allies who finally forced the president into yielding on this issue.”

well, la-dee-da ::)

What complete narcissists.  When gay people espouse political vitriol like that it makes me wonder what the hell you would have to do to make them happy.

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 09:15:02 PM »
He's not doing enough for the gay community. If he really cared about gay people he would marry someone gay himself.

I'm disappointed in the President and will not vote for him this November.
I tell you what Sweetheart, if you run for President, I would vote for you....   ;)
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 10:49:29 PM »
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 11:00:45 PM »
‎***BREAKING*** MITT UPSTAGES BARACK! ENDORSES HARDCORE GAY PORN!
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 07:56:38 AM »


This was the front page of today's Tampa Bay Times :

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/article1229245.ece






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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 09:42:45 AM »

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 10:10:36 AM »
I, for one, am very pleased with this turn of events.

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2012, 10:54:10 AM »
Statement by the Log Cabin Republicans:

“That the president has chosen today, when LGBT Americans are mourning the passage of Amendment One, to finally speak up for marriage equality is offensive and callous,” said R. Clarke Cooper, Log Cabin Republicans Executive Director. “Log Cabin Republicans appreciate that President Obama has finally come in line with leaders like Vice President Dick Cheney on this issue, but LGBT Americans are right to be angry that this calculated announcement comes too late to be of any use to the people of North Carolina, or any of the other states that have addressed this issue on his watch. This administration has manipulated LGBT families for political gain as much as anybody, and after his campaign’s ridiculous contortions to deny support for marriage equality this week he does not deserve praise for an announcement that comes a day late and a dollar short.”
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 11:45:05 AM »
R. Clarke Cooper on Hardball:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/hardball/47361820#47361820

(Sorry for the ad at the beginning, for some reason I couldn't snip the link to the vid directly.)
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2012, 01:51:57 PM »
Does one really expect anything from Republicans... Log Cabin or not? 

What I'd like to tell them (and many others): "Damn, our President does the right thing, and so many see fit to just bitch. He could have done what other presidents have to benefit same-sex couples - absolutely nothing. If he'd waited 'til after the election, it would have been because he was afraid of losing because of it. He did it before, and it's 'pandering to the homosexuals'. Have you ever thought that maybe Amendment One in NC was the motivation?  Even if it wasn't, do ya really think it would have changed the outcome? Give it a rest!" 
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2012, 02:33:53 PM »
Change happens slowly and I say kudos to President Obama, after all it is months before the 2012 election as was pointed out.

Romney will do anything now to solidify the conservative base and use equality for all (which much of his voting demographic do not support) to his benefit. The us against them mentality often works to divide and conquer.

Still a landmark day for the LGBT community !!! :)

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2012, 02:46:01 PM »
As Rupaul of would say, "Gentlemen Start your engines and may the best Woman win."
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2012, 03:03:56 PM »
 ::) I hate election yrs. and I don't like being used as some dam political pawn for being queer and having teh AIDS it's demeaning and  very tedious to me  >:(
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2012, 03:44:38 PM »
I am surprised republicans haven't really pounced on this, as they would have in years past.  They did pass some bills in the house for funding to used to fight DOMA and making gay marriage ceremonies banned on military bases.  I think they realize this is now a tricky issue these days.  But, religious folks have been suspect of Mittens.  This may get them on board. 

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2012, 03:50:26 PM »
Took long enough, but even though it seems to be a political move, all these things are... I do get a sense that most Americans I have met are ok with the idea (live and let live, I suppose), and with the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell not generating a massive storm, I guess the time is right. Will probably take a few years to filter through, anyway. I think the interesting thing is that while it causes a raised eyebrow, it's not as momentous an event as one would have assumed even a few years ago.

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2012, 03:55:26 PM »
GOProud puts out a statement that reads: “It is good to see that after intense political pressure that President Obama has finally come around to the Dick Cheney position on marriage equality. I am sure, however, the president’s newly discovered support for marriage is cold comfort to the gay couples in North Carolina. The president waited until after North Carolina passed a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. This is hardly a profile in courage by President Obama. For years now, President Obama has tried his hardest to have it both ways on this issue. The real kudos here goes to LGBT activists and their allies who finally forced the president into yielding on this issue.”

I absolutely love this.  Log Cabin Republicans slamming the president for not doing more, to stop the Republicans in North Carolina from passing discrimination laws against LGBT.  Truth surely is stranger than fiction.

And this video/article is one of the poorest pieces I have ever read.  It reads like it was written by a child or a monkey with a keyboard.

R. Clarke Cooper on Hardball:

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/hardball/47361820#47361820

(Sorry for the ad at the beginning, for some reason I couldn't snip the link to the vid directly.)

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« Last Edit: May 10, 2012, 04:00:37 PM by killfoile »

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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2012, 05:44:23 PM »
I am surprised republicans haven't really pounced on this, as they would have in years past. 

I'm sure a news junkie such as yourself didn't miss this. Click on the link below for the parodies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/09/obama-backs-gay-marriage-fox-rejected-headlines_n_1504021.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false


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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2012, 08:40:57 AM »
I'm sure a news junkie such as yourself didn't miss this. Click on the link below for the parodies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/09/obama-backs-gay-marriage-fox-rejected-headlines_n_1504021.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false


Ick. After reading that HuffPo article, I had a wander over to Fox Nation. Now I'm going to go have a hot shower and scrub myself raw. Some of the nasty rethug comments over there make me feel physically ill. I feel assaulted. I can only hope that they're a very vocal but small minority of people in the US. It frightens the hell out of me to think they may be in any kind of majority.
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2012, 09:04:43 AM »
Can I please please get an invite to the Obama's summer barbeque for black same sex newlyweds.... I'm sure it will be THE party of the year.
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2012, 06:55:52 PM »

And this video/article is one of the poorest pieces I have ever read.  It reads like it was written by a child or a monkey with a keyboard.

Joe

I agree. With all the money MSNBC has at their disposal, you'd think Chris Matthews could afford to pay someone to crank out a decent transcript of an interview which he conducted on his show. Or even better: write a better spiel for him to follow as he conducts interviews.
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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2012, 07:58:10 PM »


Witty cartoon.  :)
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« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2012, 09:09:57 PM »
Ick. After reading that HuffPo article, I had a wander over to Fox Nation. Now I'm going to go have a hot shower and scrub myself raw. Some of the nasty rethug comments over there make me feel physically ill. I feel assaulted. I can only hope that they're a very vocal but small minority of people in the US. It frightens the hell out of me to think they may be in any kind of majority.

At least one person on Fox supports the President on this :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/09/shep-smith-obama-21st-century-gay-marriage_n_1503849.html

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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2012, 10:37:58 AM »
Can I please please get an invite to the Obama's summer barbeque for black same sex newlyweds.... I'm sure it will be THE party of the year.
The Obama's Interracial Same Sex Barbecue, OISSB for short, is tomorrow, so pack a bag girlfriend.    ;)
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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2012, 10:42:26 AM »


Witty cartoon.  :)
OOOOOOOOh guuurl, consider that stolen...  OTFLMAF
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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2012, 11:16:09 AM »
Gay republicans are a strange crowd. Kinda like Hitler Jews, and they actually had those too back during WWII.
 
I guess gay people won't realize the good they had in Obama until Romney is in and bans SS marriage with a constitutional amendment, packs the US Supreme Court with more anti gay right wing judges, and then goes after the gays that teach in schools.
I guess...

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« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2012, 01:11:06 PM »
At least one person on Fox supports the President on this :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/09/shep-smith-obama-21st-century-gay-marriage_n_1503849.html

And how ironic: (1) because he's gay, albeit closeted, and (2) rumors have been flying around the internets for quite some time now that he has teh AIDS after losing a tremendous amount of weight.

Here's a lovely representative sample of what some people are saying about him
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« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2012, 07:27:13 PM »
And how ironic: (1) because he's gay, albeit closeted, and (2) rumors have been flying around the internets for quite some time now that he has teh AIDS after losing a tremendous amount of weight.

Here's a lovely representative sample of what some people are saying about him

I had no idea about those rumors, I have to say that I never watch Fox, only the excerpts in the Daily show / Colbert report and Huffpost.

I agree that he doesn't look well. It's still a stretch to say that AIDS is the cause without other evidence.

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« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2012, 07:42:26 PM »
It's called aging.
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« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2012, 07:57:48 PM »
Cause a network newsman is going to be wasting away with the AIDS of course in 2012.
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« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2012, 09:37:18 PM »
Cause a network newsman is going to be wasting away with the AIDS of course in 2012.

Tell that to all the people who believe that you can get AIDS from just being touched by a sex worker ~ transgender, or transsexual preferably  ::)
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Offline Lugzsoo

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2012, 10:19:19 PM »
Maybe he needs the votes to pull to 2016  then again he could be truely be on the up and up who knows over voting for how ever never matters . It about the rich not nobody else 
 
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2012, 06:01:49 PM »
It is now "official"...




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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2012, 06:57:14 PM »
There were rumors (swishboating?) during his first campaign.  ::)
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2012, 08:28:35 PM »
It is now "official"...



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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2012, 01:48:59 AM »
Well, I'll take my morals from Bristol Palin.  I shouldn't be surprised by her nerve and lack of knowledge on marriage.  Why are republicans so hypocritical?  Are they born that way?  Nurture vs nature?  I shouldn't expect her to realize marriage has changed from being a property transaction.  Nut doesn't fall far from the tree.

 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/11/bristol-palin-s-blog-her-take-on-gay-marriage-more.html

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2012, 09:29:30 AM »
It is outstanding that I have lived to see the day an American President support "Gay Marriage."  I don't care of the whys or the whatsits, just that it is a push in the right, pardon the pun, direction.  I am glad to be alive in this century more than ever before.


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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2012, 07:44:36 PM »
And for giggles, George Bush comes out of the closet...when Will Ferrell returns to SNL:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/13/will-ferrell-returns-as-george-bush-snl_n_1512407.html?ref=mostpopular

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2012, 08:22:28 AM »
Well lately I have been watching minister after minister on TV show after TV show, and the majority of them are not too happy with Obama.

Now... the ministers of mostly black congregations with mostly democrat members have been turning on Obama.

What I find outrageous are those hard core anti-gay religious folks trying themselves to redefine marriage, not the gays, and the religious right further claiming total ownership of the term marriage.
Argument after argument, I have yet to see one of those religious folks called out on what they are trying to get away with by doing this.

The argument... is that marriage is some religious Bible based man+woman only custom. Some of those ministers add they have no issue with "civil unions" for same sex couples, but just not marriage.
They base their judgment by referring to religion and the scriptures of the Bible.

I'd love to ask just one of them that if marriage is to be reserved only for religious based unions, then how do they explain ceremonies not held in a church?

And more so, the fact that atheist can get married. Atheist are not religious.
Atheist have other options of marriage other than a church based marriage, yet their marriages are as legal and binding as all marriages.

And last but most important I'd love to ask, if so many religious people hold marriage to the standards of religion and the scriptures of the Bible, then why do these same people of religion not aggressively fight against atheist getting married?

I have yet to see one law introduced, suggested or considered that would define the institution of marriage as based only on Bible scriptures.

So.... if atheist can legally marry, and Bible scriptures need not apply, then what is this argument with holding SS marriage up to Biblical Scripture standards?
The argument holds no logic. None!

And "THAT" is where the main argument from the religious right fails.

Marriage is not owned and operated by any one group. Not owned or operated by any religion. Any objection using Biblical scripture as the objection simply has no logical or realistic foundation. None whatsoever.
If that were not true, then atheist could not marry, nor could people of certain non Christian religion beliefs.

When the nonsense of marriage qualification by Biblical scripture has been removed, as it justly should be, then there is absolutely no reason to not expand the meaning of marriage to include same sex couples.
After all, marriage in all actuality only addresses property, legalities, law and ownership rights.

The religious folks that strongly object to same sex marriage have unjustly injected Biblical scripture into the issue of SS marriage. All with their attempts to hijack and claim ownership of a foundation of freedom that was never meant to be owned by any one group, or limited to religion based beliefs.

What the people of religion are attempting to do is force ownership of marriage itself. A tactic truly inapprehensible. Call them out on it.

It is time they were exposed, especially by the media. By those talking head news shows. Cease the argument by not accepting their twisted attempt as having any solid factual foundation, when none exists.
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2012, 09:59:23 AM »
Lawrence Sinclair, the guy who claimed -- at an extremely high-attendance press conference in 2008 -- to have had carnal knowledge with a cocaine-snorting Barack Obama in 1999.

[W]e predict that Barack Obama will come out of the closet if not before the November 6, 2012 election, before he is sworn in on Jan 20, 2013 if he is re-elected. Obama is completely consumed with making everything about him and his administration “Historic.” He has already played the “Historic” Americas first Black President despite his having to evolve into being black for political purposes, and the only thing he can do to make history now is to come OUT as Americas first Black openly gay President! He will come out, whether on his own terms or others, he will come out and Michelle Obama will not walk out and will not play the “I had no idea” game because its never been a secret.

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2012, 08:52:21 PM »
Lawrence Sinclair, the guy who claimed -- at an extremely high-attendance press conference in 2008 -- to have had carnal knowledge with a cocaine-snorting Barack Obama in 1999.

[W]e predict that Barack Obama will come out of the closet if not before the November 6, 2012 election, before he is sworn in on Jan 20, 2013 if he is re-elected. Obama is completely consumed with making everything about him and his administration “Historic.” He has already played the “Historic” Americas first Black President despite his having to evolve into being black for political purposes, and the only thing he can do to make history now is to come OUT as Americas first Black openly gay President! He will come out, whether on his own terms or others, he will come out and Michelle Obama will not walk out and will not play the “I had no idea” game because its never been a secret.

... and just for a little reminder:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MceFVpJ-Gyc

The swishboating I was referring too.

Find it very far fetched that Obama is on the DL.  Anything is possible I suppose.
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2012, 11:06:07 PM »
Poll: Obama's Shift Splits Voters

When President Barack Obama made his historic announcement in support of gay marriage, political pundits went into overdrive trying to determine whether it would help or hurt him come November. A new Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday revealed that, so far, the move hasn’t swayed voters much one way or the other. Roughly 31 percent of those polled now have a more favorable view of Obama, and 30 percent say they have a less favorable view. Forty percent say the announcement had no impact on how they’ll vote whatsoever. In the most important category—independent voters—tended to side against the president by just a hair, 26 percent of them viewing Obama less favorably while 19 percent now view him more favorably. Fifty-four percent said the announcement had no impact on their opinion.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/05/15/poll-voters-split-on-obama-marriage-shift.html

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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2012, 08:49:37 PM »
I think it's a great thing.


PS - Bristol Palin still claims she didn't have a "chin implant".  DUH, who does she think she's foolin'?  A Pre-implant photo of her bears little resemblance to a post-implant photo.

Don't you just love it that she tried to slam Glee in her statements?  Glee is probably WAY over her head.....
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #49 on: May 19, 2012, 08:51:11 PM »
Also, just this afternoon the NAACP formally endorsed marriage equality.
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2012, 07:49:14 AM »
Also, just this afternoon the NAACP formally endorsed marriage equality.
That is big news!!!
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2012, 11:06:32 AM »
That is big news!!!

It's GREAT news! :)
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Re: OBAMA BACKS GAY MARRIAGE
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2012, 10:58:39 PM »


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