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Author Topic: Need some advice  (Read 1086 times)

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Offline parteboy

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Need some advice
« on: April 30, 2012, 06:19:25 AM »
Hi all,

I'm a bit stressed out at the moment (normally i'm pretty good with coping with my HIV but not over this) and wanted some advice as i'm not thinking very clearly. So please forgive me if this seems silly. I've been undetectable for 4 years and recently i went away with a mate. When we were away his son had a bite from an apple that i put down after having a bite from it. Should i be stressed? i'm pretty sure its just my anxiety playing up but i wanted to check with someone. I can't get in to see my doctor till next week.

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Re: Sharing an apple with a friend kid.
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2012, 07:21:25 AM »
The only reason you should be stressed is because you are HIV positive yet still have no understanding on how the virus is spread.

This child is not at risk.

Mike
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Offline parteboy

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Re: Sharing an apple with a friend kid.
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 07:24:11 AM »
Mike thanks for your reply. One of the key reasons I asked was i was reading an article about HIV and mothers that chew their food for infants and it sent my brain on a tangent. Occasionally my anxiety overrides my brain. thanks for your reply.

Offline le_liseur

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Re: Sharing an apple with a friend kid.
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 01:07:09 PM »
So... Did you finish the apple or did it go to waste? What kind of apple was it? And more importantly, was it good?  ::)

Offline parteboy

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Need some advice
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 08:59:31 AM »
Hi all,

I need some advice about an incident that happened a few weeks ago. i posted earlier but i want to make sure that i make all the facts clear.

I was away with a mate and his son and i was eating a piece of fruit when i put it down and his son took a bite from where i had just bitten. I'm concerned that there may have been blood on the area where he took a bite from. occassionally i see a small amount of blood when i bite into something. I'm just really concerned and again just want to make sure his son is healthy.

I've been undetectable for 4 years and am still undectable. This kid means the world to me so i'm just wanting some advice. I understand infection is blood to blood but want to make sure that this risk is not there as i have read a few articles about mothers chewing food and HIV being transmitted which has freaked me out.

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Re: Need some advice
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 09:19:42 AM »
I've merged your two threads on the same exact subject. It make it easier for everyone to know what's already been said.

There is no way this child was at risk for hiv by taking a bite of your apple.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. There is no way hiv would remain viable and able to infect while on the surface of an apple, even if there were tiny bits of blood in your saliva.

And speaking of saliva, not only is it not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. So any  hiv in any small amounts of blood in your mouth would have been neutralised anyway.

I've also read the study about pre-chewed food and in my opinion, I don't trust it. The study was conducted in a country where there is huge social pressure to breastfeed infants. Poz women in these country are adamantly told to not breastfeed, but between the social pressure and a mother's strong, natural urge to breastfeed, I strongly suspect that the women weren't being totally honest about never breastfeeding their infants.

Pre-chewing food for infants is common in this country because they don't have access to modern, prepared baby-food nor do they have access to modern appliances that can puree foods easily. The women weren't warned against pre-chewing food, so they're not going to hide the truth about that like they might hide the truth about breastfeeding.

And even if there were a few transmissions due to pre-chewed food, you have to remember that pre-chewed food was the staple of these infants' diets - not one single bite.

You didn't pre-chew the apple anyway - you took a bite out of it and so did the kid. It simply was NOT a risk for the child. No way, no how.

I hope that finally puts your mind at ease.

The only thing you need to be doing in order to not transmit your virus to others is to use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions. It really is that simple!!!

Ann
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Offline parteboy

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Re: Need some advice
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 09:25:55 AM »
Thanks Ann it really has helped as I really don't have anyone to talk to about this. It's great that people in this forum actually care about what people are saying. Thank you for your help on this.


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Re: Need some advice
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2012, 09:35:02 AM »
Good, you're welcome. Glad I could help. I would have chimed in on your original post, but I've been busy moving house lately. I'm still trying to unpack. ::)

Seriously, you're not going to infect anyone during everyday, normal contact and that includes sharing food and drinks and forks and spoons and all the rest of it. All you need to do to protect others is to make sure condoms are being used for intercourse. It might be hard to believe, but yes, it really is that simple!

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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