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Author Topic: 17 year old showing symptoms???  (Read 1402 times)

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Offline tom899

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17 year old showing symptoms???
« on: March 20, 2012, 04:17:52 PM »
Okay so I'm 17 gay male and have only been sexually active for just over a month. It hat time I have had two sexual partners.

With partner one (around a month ago): unprotected oral sex ( I did not swallow his semen ) and protected anal sex. I have no reason to believe that the condom split. But it was dark so I can not be 100% certain.

With partner two (6 days ago): unprotected oral sex ( I swallowed his semen ).

Two days ago I developed a sore throat. Yesterday I woke up with one swollen lymph node on my neck. Later that day I developed nausea and diarrhea, symptoms that have since improved. My throat is very sore and my tonsils are swollen with visible white discharge on one side. I also have a stiff neck and a mild headache.

I am very worried because of these symptoms and wanted to get some expert advice. Could I have HIV? Is it possible I have a different infection as a result of these sexual acts? I have just found out that my second partner had also recently fallen ill, could this be important?

Thank you very much.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2012, 04:19:33 PM by tom899 »

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Re: 17 year old showing symptoms???
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 04:47:29 PM »
Basically you are worrying needlessly. Nothing you are reporting has put you at risk for HIV.

The risk for HIV with oral sex is strictly theoretical. As someone who is just at the beginning of becoming sexually active, you need to know that the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected anal (and vaginal) intercourse. As long as condoms are used consistently for those activities you will be well protected.

Also, even if you had a risky incident, (and I repeat you did not), you would not have symptoms so quickly after the event. And further, although I hope you won't ever have a for real risk, you also need to know that neither the presence nor the absence of symptoms will ever tell you anything accurately about your HIV status. Only an HIV-specific test  taken at 3 months after the risk can give you a conclusively negative result.

Other STDs are much easier to acquire than HIV. We recommend for anyone who is sexually active to at least once a year have a full STD panel done. And more frequently if there are symptoms.

If the the symptoms you are reporting persist, you should discuss them with your doctor.

There's no need for HIV testing at this point nor for further concern about that on your part this time.
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Re: 17 year old showing symptoms???
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 12:33:37 PM »
Thanks a lot for your reply. I went for a test last week just for peace of mind and it came out negative. Just out of curiosity, do you know where I can access the studies that you base your advice on oral sex? I'm not in doubt I just would like to read them for myself.

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Re: 17 year old showing symptoms???
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 01:54:29 PM »
It's not surprising to hear you tested negative. But I am sure it was a relief to you anyway.

For further information regarding what's risky and what isn't I suggest you read our lesson on transmission. 

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Re: 17 year old showing symptoms???
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 02:36:13 PM »

The quajtification we use at AIDSMEDS is based on three distinct and separate studies conducted over the course of two decades with serodiscordasnt couples. We do not rely on anecdotal evidence insofar as HIV transmission is concerned, especially not now, where the current state of the scientific and epidemiological art is as advanced as it is. With more people living longer and healthier lives, a large enough collection of serodiscordant couples has finally emerged to create blind studies where HIV transmission routes can be studied with scientific quantification.

Here are some of the  scientific findings.


No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS:  Volume 16(17)  22 November 2002  pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan

Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117

Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.
"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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