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Offline CRIMS21

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Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« on: March 01, 2012, 01:39:55 PM »
Hi All,

So I got drunk in a third world country and ended up at a brothel.   (First and last time I do this).   

The female in question, got up and mounted me (I had said no sex prior, just a bj).  I had a condom on for the BJ, but she penetrated me for about a minute before I got her off and began to freak out.   

Anywho, I was watching out for symptoms since the incident.  (The first time I ever had sex I caught Herpes, so I've been pretty much traumatized ever since). 

I had a few panic attacks in the week following, but after convincing myself I was fine the symptoms disappeared (general malaise feeling, loss of appetite, tingling feeling on hands, night sweats).

Fifteen days in, a small rash formed on my hand, It then spread to two small splotches on my hand.  There were also two splotches on my back and one on my arm.  They eventually healed and ended up looking like bug bites.  However I also developed small bumps on my left foot, that might be maculopapular.  When that healed the scar looked circular.  Also on my back were around four large pimple like lesions that healed in a maculopapular fashion.   

So I tested myself 18 days in, which I know is within the window period and it came back negative. 

I tested myself again.  at 26 days in.  Unfortunately the worst thing happened.  Note that I had gone here  before and it was an in out experience.  The doctor looked at his screen got a strange look on his face and disappeared for 15 minutes.   He then came back (while I was freaking out that I was positive) and told me that they were waiting on approval to release my results.  (TERRIBLE THING TO HEAR)  I assumed I was positive.

They called me into the back office after another fifteen minutes and told me I had to talk to the doctor who would explain everything to me.  (By this time I had made some peace with my positive status) 

Apparently they ran out of reagent so they couldn't test my results.  SO kind of a huge relief.  I thought it was a funny story, so worth mentioning.  Anywho I'm getting killed here waiting for results.

The day after I inspected myself again and looked at my dick.  It looked like I had a herpes outbreak at the base of my penis on the bottom.   Note that I haven't had a herpes outbreak in over 4 years.  So this worries me that I've been immunocompromised from the HIV and that herpes is getting out at the infection site.  (Which would make sense since I used a condom, double wrapped, but she was on top, so the penetration might've been to the point where a part of my penis was exposed which might have had a microlesion from my herpes.) 

Anywho still waiting on results and I was just wondering what your opinion on the matter is.  I'll report back as soon as i hear.  Also, I've been going through this for a whole month thinking I'm HIV Positive, so psychologically I'm prepared for a positive result.  Overall don't think its too bad, except for the having to tell a partner thing, but I've been through that with herpes (got infected at 17).



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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 03:11:52 PM »
You stated you had a condom on for the oral sex and she mounted you. Was it protected or unprotected?

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 03:18:05 PM »
Everything was protected, however I'm worried about perhaps having microlesions at the base of my penis from herpes.  Additionally, the rash on my feet was on my soles (only in one area) the rash on my arms, healed and looked like a bug bite, with a small scar at the tip, where I would assume a bug bit, but I guess it could be anything else.  And the rash on my back could be pimples, but they broke and healed in a maculopapular fashion.

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 03:23:08 PM »
You never had an exposure to HIV. 

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 03:26:14 PM »
Thanks, I am a hypochondriac.  Yesterday was a terrible experience!

I'll let you know my results, should be in today or tomorrow.


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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 03:34:39 PM »
If you had a genuine risk this would be too early to test. But since you DID NOT apparently have a risk, testing is strictly for your peace of mind.

Condoms provide very effective protection as long as they don't break. I suspect this is all personal drama because I don't see the risk.
Andy Velez

Offline CRIMS21

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 03:43:42 PM »
Thanks!  Definitely need the peace of mind.

The rash is really the only thing I'm worried about, the timing was 15 days so within the generally recognized time frame.

The general description is soo non descript any rash or bite could be seen as an HIV Rash.  Hence why I've been actively testing so I can move on w/ my life.

On the plus side, no other symptoms...

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 05:36:03 PM »
Negative :)

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 05:51:48 PM »
Crim,

No surprise there as you had no risk.

You need to realise that it's not only sex workers you need to use condoms with - you should be using them with ANYONE you have anal or vaginal intercourse with.

BTW, getting a blowjob, with or without a condom is not a risk for hiv infection.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED FURTHER HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 10:04:06 AM »
Hey Guys,

So I got tested again yesterday at the 34 day mark to be safe. 

I read that an exaggerated reaction to insect bites is an early marker for immunosuppressed patients.

http://www.ijdvl.com/article.asp?issn=0378-6323;year=2001;volume=67;issue=2;spage=72;epage=74;aulast=Ajithkumar

So I think I've had a very limited ARS reaction.  I had "pruritic eruptions" on my back as last noted.  I also had the maculopapular symptoms on the soles of my feet.  Additionally the larger herpes sores at the base of my penis point towards immunosuppression.  The fatigue I'm willing to dismiss due to stress. 

I'm betting I'm positive.  Even though it was short duration protected sex, I think the fact that I have an STI significantly increased my risk.  Additionally it was a CSW, a huge risk.  This is very dissappointing. 

I'm just venting now.  But I made a mistake.  I was drunk.  I was with the wrong crowd.  I thought I'd only get a BJ since it was low risk.  The girl mounted me.  It took 45 seconds and she got off.  I've known I've had herpes for five years so I refused to have sex.  That was technically the third person I've had sex with.  I don't know.  I'm just unlucky I guess.  Herpes first time I had sex and now HIV third time I had sex.

Wow.

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 10:29:21 AM »
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result,  or no-risk situation will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2012, 11:21:21 AM »
Crims,

Quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have NOT had a risk for hiv infection and your negative test results are not going to change.

Don't think you'll be permitted to use this forum to go on and on about your self-diagnosis or your rashes. You haven't had a risk for hiv, so go to a doctor to find out what, if anything, is actually going on with you.

Make sure you heed the warning Rodney gave you. If you keep coming back with more about this NO RISK incident, you WILL be given that time out.

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2012, 05:15:19 PM »
Thanks guys for calling me crazy...really calmed me down.  Everytime I think Iīm positive I just go to Annīs post.  I think this is all CSW guilt. (Was negative at 34 days)

I just wanted to ask one question.  I woke up today with a really really dry peeling face.  Of course I got online and checked if it might somehow be HIV...anywho I picked this article up http://www.aidsetc.org/aidsetc?page=cg-627_seborrheic_dermatitis   

Do you think its worth getting tested again?  Iīm not even sure if it applies to me since it seems like skin conditions arise for advanced HIV or where CD4 counts go below 550 which after 42 days I donīt think would apply.

Please advice. 

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2012, 05:27:34 PM »
Thanks guys for calling me crazy...really calmed me down.  Everytime I think Iīm positive I just go to Annīs post.  I think this is all CSW guilt. (Was negative at 34 days)

I just wanted to ask one question.  I woke up today with a really really dry peeling face.  Of course I got online and checked if it might somehow be HIV...anywho I picked this article up http://www.aidsetc.org/aidsetc?page=cg-627_seborrheic_dermatitis   

Do you think its worth getting tested again?  Iīm not even sure if it applies to me since it seems like skin conditions arise for advanced HIV or where CD4 counts go below 550 which after 42 days I donīt think would apply.

Please advice.

You were warned that coming back with more questions about this NON RISK situation would result in moderator action.

I have referred your latest post to the moderators for review.

MtD

Offline CRIMS21

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2012, 07:27:40 PM »
Sorry the face rash is freaking me out now.  Another panic attack.  I'm getting tested again on Monday. 

I keep reading that Sebborhoic Dermatitis is a common symptom following HIV infection.  And also off this forum it seems to be a common problem for most HIV positive people.  I didn't even know this was an issue so its not like its self manifesting. 

Anywho that adds one more symptom of course the 35 day negative is encouraging as it wasn't even inconclusive...

So know...rashes, sensitivity to bug bites and now sebborhoic dermatitis...

Will report back if positive.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2012, 07:29:52 PM by CRIMS21 »

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2012, 08:37:00 PM »
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result,  or no-risk situation will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2012, 09:57:42 PM »
Everything but the kitchen sink is common during ARS. Except those symptoms are not HIV specific. They happen for all sorts of reasons.

You are worrying needlessly. Test as much as you want to. You're just going to collect negative results.

But you can't keep coming back here with all the drama about your latest burst of fear. If you come back with more of the same I'm warning you that you will get a Time Out. HIV is not your problem. Period.
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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2012, 10:26:35 AM »
Thanks Andy,

I know.  The symptoms are so nondescript and mixed up that anything can be HIV.  I know my risk is low...only 1 in 200 csws have hiv in Colombia and I used protection and it was short duration.   

It just worrying me that I've gotten all of these perfectly timed symptoms.  i.e. rashes two weeks after...sensitivity to bug bites...and now dry scaly skin, like my forehead was literally peeling off.  Which from your forum seems like a very common problem even almost immediately after seroconversion.

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=25621.0
http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=14267.0
http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=30769.0

The tests have upped my spirits, I think I'm at a 95% confidence interval at the 34 day mark. 

I mean you seem to tell everyone they're negative.  Even though from the other forums I've gotten that some people have reportedly used condoms and got HIV anyhow.   The risk for me was herpes sores at the base of my penis...which according to studies I've read recently multiplies your risk 2-5 fold.  Apparently CD4 cells cluster around those regions as they try to heal the sore, giving hiv a perfect entrance. 

I guess I'm asking, have you guys ever been wrong in a case like this?  Where the guy uses a condom?  The rashes heeled over and scarred now...the lesions are still there, my foot healed. 

I just wish this disease was more obvious.  Youd think that if you have something attacking your immune system your body would mount a stronger response and cause more than a small rash, some bug bites, and now a peeling face.  So nondescript.  Its been 1.5 months now and I'm just tired of the stress.  If I'm positive I just want to know...

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Re: Potential HIV Exposure followed by rash two weeks later
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2012, 10:40:57 AM »
If you're positive you just want to know? How about  that you're HIV negative? Can you accept that? Apparently not, but you are HIV negative.

We're not going to indulge you in an ongoing back and forth about your HIV status.

You are HIV negative. If you have troubling symptoms you should discuss them with a doctor. HIV is not the cause because you don't have HIV.

And now I am going to give you the 28 day Time Out from this site which you have been warned about. Don't make the mistake of trying to use a different name. we'll spot that right off and it will get you banned permanently.

HIV is not your problem. You're holding on to insisting that it is your problem. I suggest you might talk with a therapist or other professional about your unwarranted concern.
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