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very nervous
« on: September 25, 2006, 01:21:42 AM »
I know this has been covered many times here but i was just wanting to put it out there...I was wanting to know how confident i should be in a neg test result at roughly 39 days....I was involved with a young lady for about 3 months and had unprotected sex with her.....I have been displaying symptoms for about a month now and took a test--hiv at 39 days and hep B/C tests all came back neg.....The doctor reviewed the blood work and stated that he saw no indicators of infection in any of the blood work...What indicators would he be looking for besides the HIV results and again is 39 days any kind of solid indicator......39 days is going from when my symptoms started so I am assuming a few more days could be added to 39 since the symptoms probably would not develop for a week or so........I have been a very worried and have actually found some comfort from this site..........You all are very amazing and very helpful.......I know symptoms is no way to diagnose yourself but I have had all of them in the most extreme case....

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2006, 01:26:45 AM »
Not at all. Test at 13 weeks.

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2006, 01:41:39 AM »
This week would be week 9.....Could I have any confidence in a test on the 9th week....Thank you for your reply.....

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2006, 02:48:55 AM »
Howdy.

A test at this point would be an excellent indicator that you did not contract the virus. However, you should test at 13 weeks to be absolutely certain.

It is very difficult to transmit the virus female-to-male, so that fact, and given that it is unlikely your partner was infected to begin with, means you likely are fine, despite anything you may be interpreting as symptoms.

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2006, 02:57:39 AM »
Thank you very much for your reply.....It is very appriciated.....Another question? Is Oral Thrush very common in early stages of HIV?

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2006, 04:06:27 AM »
anybody have any info for me on initial symptoms other than what i have read....PLEASE

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2006, 05:10:04 AM »
howdy,

We don't talk about symptoms here because symptoms, or even the lack of symptoms, means nothing when it comes to hiv infection.

You need to test at three months past your last episode of unprotected intercourse (not from the onset of any symptoms) for a reliable, conclusive result. Your 39 day test is not likely to change, but you need that test at three months for confirmation of your hiv negative status.

However, you have GOT to stop playing roulette with your life and health. You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms and avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2006, 12:41:58 PM »
thank you Ann.  my last contact with the young lady would have been around the 43 day mark... So my test was really at 43 days....Thank you for your time Ann...Have a great day..

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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2006, 01:13:43 PM »
Howdy,

Your 43 day negative is even more unlikely to change. The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks and your test is over six weeks. The average time to seroconversion is only 22 days.

Test again at three months for a conclusive result, but I'm fully expecting you to test negative again. Please make sure you always use condoms from now on. OK?

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2006, 01:32:34 PM »
thank you again Ann....

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2006, 05:29:31 PM »
one more thing...Would herbs and vitamins possibley impacte an HIV test?  Would it show a neg due to the herbs and vitamins... thank you.

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2006, 05:52:03 PM »
No, neither herbs nor vitamins nor many other medications and such affect the accuracy of your HIV test.

And I too expect you will continue to test negative.

In the future use a condom everytime you have intercourse. No exceptions until you are in a securely monogamous relationship in which both partners test negative together.

Cheers,
Andy Velez

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2006, 07:22:42 PM »
how about the Oral Thrush?  Does that usually occur as and early symptom...I know you don't do symptoms here but any info from anyone would be outstanding...Thank you so much

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2006, 08:22:13 PM »
Oral thrush, is not specific to HIV. Anyone can get oral thrush.

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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2006, 01:40:59 AM »
how common is pain in the calves and angles...Mine have been feeling odd for about a month...they tingle, hurt, burn and i can't isolate it to anything... thank you...

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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2006, 03:55:31 AM »
hmmm, then I suggest you see a doctor if the symptoms persists.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2006, 05:06:45 AM by RapidRod »

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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2006, 05:00:51 AM »
Howdy,

With the test results you have so far, it is most unlikely that anything you are experiencing has anything to do with hiv. I suggest you stop looking at your body through the lens of hiv and if your problems persist, see your doctor.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2006, 06:37:13 PM »
If I went through what i thought were ARS symptoms in late July early August---- on August the 8th...I was hospitalized with Kidney problems...The DR stated that the vommiting and diareha were due to some sort of gastro infection which caused me to have kidney problems due to lack of food and fluids in body....I had just ended the realationship with the girl I was seeing...I was concerned at the time of HIV infection due to white tongue and all the other symptoms...I got tested HIV and HEP on September the 13th and had other blood work done... the DR told me everything looked great and HIV / HEP were neg......What i am wanting an opinion on is if those were ARS symptoms of me converting to HIV pos...Then wouldn't the Sept test have been indeterminate / possitive...I still have muscle pains....The other symptoms seem to be clearing up.....So my HIV test was done 37 days after hospital visit isn't it likely Sep tests would have shown something??????? Any info would be greatly appriciated....Thank you....

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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2006, 06:53:00 PM »
Howdy,

With the test results you have so far, it is most unlikely that anything you are experiencing has anything to do with hiv. I suggest you stop looking at your body through the lens of hiv and if your problems persist, see your doctor.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2006, 11:36:08 AM »
My 8-9 week (57-65 days) test just came back negative which is a good thing...I don't know what generation ELISA was done.. It was a blood draw that was sent to LABONE....How do my chances look now?...This has to be a good thing...Would it matter what generation test was used at this point?  The doctor wants me back in a couple months for one more test but doubts anything will change.... thank you...

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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2006, 03:01:30 PM »
what do you think? Any words of encouragement from Ann would be awsome....

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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2006, 03:18:18 PM »
Howdy,

At this point, the generation of test doesn't make much difference. That only makes a difference in the first few weeks.

The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks and your test is well over six weeks. The average time to seroconversion is only 22 days.

You don't need to wait "a couple months" for your conclusive result. A test at the three month point will be conclusive and I fully expect it to also be negative.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2006, 03:24:42 PM »
thanks Ann!

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Re: very nervous
« Reply #23 on: October 07, 2006, 02:45:16 PM »
Has anyone ever seen someone go from an 8-9 week negative to a positive on there 3 month test?  Is there any situations which would cause something like this......Thank you...

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« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2006, 07:45:12 PM »
Howdy,

I've never seen it. I've never seen a six week negative turn positive at three months either. It would seem to be a fairly rare thing, but that's not to say it never happens and that is why we recommend getting that conclusive three month result.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2006, 08:19:53 PM »
Thanks Ann,

So a negative at 12-13 weeks is definitely conclusive, regardless of generation of test and situation of exposure?

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« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2006, 08:39:12 PM »
Howdy,

Yes, a three month test is conclusive regardless of generation.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2006, 10:40:15 AM »
I took my 87-94 day test give or take a few days.....It was negative....In your opinion is this conclusive?  Just for my own piece of mind is their any subtypes or strains of the virus that would not have been tested for on these tests?  I know they tested for HIV1 and HIV2....Thank you....

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« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2006, 11:29:26 AM »
Howdy,

Yes, that's conclusive, you are hiv negative.

Now please, remember to use condoms in future, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2006, 02:18:43 PM »
Ann, Rod, Andy, Mike,

Thank you all very much for your knowledge, help and support.  This forum should really be must read for all persons...You all do amazing work....My Dr. still wants me back in 3 months for one more test....I am expecting it to be negative as well, atleast hoping very much....I see the experts saying no more testing is needed but I will probably do one more for my own piece of mind....Is there much diff. in 12 week test and 13 week test....Is this splitting hairs?

Thank you all very much...god bless

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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2006, 02:23:02 PM »
Yeah a week.. ;)  13 for US testing and 12 weeks for about all others. You are conclusive. Always be careful.

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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2006, 06:38:50 PM »
thank you for the reply rod :D........just curious does the time line of 13 weeks change if the person was of known HIV positive status?

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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2006, 06:41:55 PM »
No, with the new technology, it is no longer necessary to test further.

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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2006, 07:03:43 PM »
thanks again rod....I am just having trouble getting over this.....Would a co-infection of hep B,C impact the window period....How can I be so sure that my tests were done with new technology....Not trying to bother you all but just trying to put down some doubts...thank you.

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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2006, 07:08:11 PM »
Any test you took at the 12/13 week period would be a conclusive test. Wouldn't not matter what generation it was.

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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2006, 02:12:16 PM »
HIV-1 AND HIV-2 AB. [EIA] REFLEX............this is the test i have had done....does this give you any idea what generation the test was.....I was just curious....

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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2006, 01:18:48 PM »
I am still having trouble putting this to rest.....Just some more follow up questions....

1. Do I need to worry about subtypes?
2. I still have these symptoms: pain in nodes, tongue jacked up, gaining weight only around stomach, fatigue, can't sleep, hair loss, trouble swallowing, seem to have spots in vision, facial hair seems softer than normal..
3. With these ongoing symptoms wouldn't a 12-13 week HIV test have shown something?
4. Wouldn't I have developed antibodies by now?
5. Would another virus like hep b / c cause me to not develop antibodies for HIV?
6. Since I was very ill in August could that have delayed antibody production?

If someone could please take the time to answere all these questions I would be so appriciative.....


Thank You very much

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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2006, 01:23:13 PM »
The reason it didn't show anything is because you were never infected. HBV and HCV or being ill will not stop the productions of antibodies nor would they lengthen the window period beyond 13 weeks. You need to accept the fact that you are negative and move on with your life.

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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2006, 01:41:34 PM »
thanks rod....you always seem to call em like you see em (good personality trait to have).....I can forget about symptoms, generation of test and me possibly being the one who converts beyond 3 months?

take care....

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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2006, 01:45:33 PM »
You got it Howdy. Just make sure you always have protect anal and vaginal sex no matter what until you are with a person that you two have tested together and know each others status. Then you can throw the condom out the window. Then you only have to worry about having little Howdy's.

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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2006, 04:57:01 PM »
I was just curious is lipodystrophy usually seen in very early stages of infection?

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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2006, 05:19:47 PM »
Lipodystrophy is cause by some medications for HIV and no it would not be in the early stages of infections.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2006, 05:27:47 PM by RapidRod »

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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2006, 05:26:50 PM »
dude your awsome rod

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« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2006, 08:12:20 PM »
I just can't get over this fear and symptoms I have.......I am now getting swollen nodes (red and painful)....Pains in body and my tongue still jacked....Could this due to stess possibley???.......I just don't know...Is counselling helpful in situations like this....I also had a one week cold about 5 days ago....Surely with symptoms ongoing the 3 month HIV test would had to have shown something????.....The girl I was with sure played a crazy game with me as well.....Any help or advice to the above....

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« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2006, 08:18:31 PM »
You know it is being caused by something other than HIV. See your doctor if your symptoms persists.

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« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2006, 10:39:43 AM »
Thanks again Rod....Anyone else have anything to add....Do symptoms keep going on and on during infection?  Should I still be concerned?

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« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2006, 10:46:03 AM »
You already have tested negative at the proper time and received your negative. Any symptoms you are having have nothing to do with HIV.

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« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2006, 04:10:40 PM »
one more thing......would my hep B / C tests at 40 days been accurate or is there a window period for that too

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« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2006, 04:16:50 PM »
HBV- Incubation period: 45 to 160 days, average 120 days
HCV- Incubation period: 14 to 180 days, average 45 days

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« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2006, 04:39:56 PM »
sweet something else to worry about...

 


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