Quantcast

Subscribe to:
POZ magazine
E-newsletters
Join POZ: Facebook MySpace Twitter Pinterest
Tumblr Google+ Flickr MySpace
POZ Personals
Sign In / Join
Username:
Password:
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
August 30, 2014, 05:09:35 AM

Login with username, password and session length


Members
  • Total Members: 23344
  • Latest: TML1991
Stats
  • Total Posts: 636627
  • Total Topics: 48319
  • Online Today: 171
  • Online Ever: 585
  • (January 07, 2014, 02:31:47 PM)
Users Online
Users: 4
Guests: 117
Total: 121

Welcome


Welcome to the POZ/AIDSmeds Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and others concerned about HIV/AIDS.  Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning:  Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

  • The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own physician.

  • All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

  • Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators of these forums. Click here for “Am I Infected?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ/AIDSmeds community forums.

  • We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are true and correct to their knowledge.

  • Product advertisement—including links; banners; editorial content; and clinical trial, study or survey participation—is strictly prohibited by forums members unless permission has been secured from POZ.

To change forums navigation language settings, click here (members only), Register now

Para cambiar sus preferencias de los foros en español, haz clic aquí (sólo miembros), Regístrate ahora

Finished Reading This? You can collapse this or any other box on this page by clicking the symbol in each box.

Author Topic: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'  (Read 2289 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Poz Brit

  • Member
  • Posts: 158
Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« on: September 24, 2006, 06:16:14 AM »
This was on the BBC news site today,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5364246.stm

Offline anniebc

  • Member
  • Posts: 5,939
  • AM member since 2003
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2006, 06:35:09 AM »
Quote
But Dr Furber also added a note of caution. He said the increase could be caused by the fact that smokers could be more likely to take risks, such as unsafe sex, than non-smokers.

Hi Poz

I can't for the life of me see a connection between smoking  and unsafe sex...am I missing something?

Hugs
Jan :-*
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Never knock on deaths door..ring the bell and run..he really hates that.

Offline Ann

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 28,140
  • It just is, OK?
    • Num is sum qui mentiar tibi?
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2006, 06:42:52 AM »
Hi Poz,


There have also been studies that show smokers are more likely to progress to serious drug abuse than non-smokers. In my opinion, both of these correlations are too vague and open-ended to really be of much use to anyone. But saying that, maybe smokers do take more risks than non-smokers because after all, smokers know all about the risks we are taking with our health, such as lung cancer, but we keep taking that risk everyday.

But I can see it now, we're going to have people who smoke assume that the lapdance they had is sure to result in infection just because they smoke. ::)

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  



"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline Tim

  • Member
  • Posts: 27
  • Joined May, 2002
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2006, 07:34:09 AM »
Yea, well, during a routine physical once, I complained offhand about a hangnail on my finger.  The doctor told me I should quit smoking.  Ergo, smoking causes hangnails (and everything else that's wrong with the world).
Tim S., not to be confused with Tim Horn

Offline newone

  • Member
  • Posts: 57
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2006, 07:54:58 AM »
I am doomed...
since my diagnose instead of smoking 20 a day I have gone up to 40.....as for sex....what sex??
Sustiva, Truvada
cd 212 Mar 04
cd 265 May 04 (started meds)
cd 389 Jun  04
cd 504 Oct  04
cd 449 Dec 04
cd 518 Apr 05
cd 449 Nov 05
cd 514 Jan 06
cd 618 Apr 06
cd 665 Jul 06
cd 617 Nov 06
cd 604 Apr 07
cd 956 Aug 07
cd 690 Nov 07 (26%)
cd 771 Apr 08 24%
cd 737 Sep 08 27% Atripla
cd 648 Jan  09 27%
cd 627 Apr 09 25%
cd 607 Oct 09 25%
cd 676 Jan 10 25%
cd 811 Jun 10 25%
cd 922 Nov 10 27%
cd 860 Apr 11 28%
cd 767 Jul 11 24%
cd 843 Oct 11 27%
cd 1350 Jan 12 27%
cd 756   Jun 12 27%
cd 1151 Oct 12 35%
cd 965  Jan 13 36%
cd 875 May 13 32% Eviplera
cd 845 Jul 13  30% und.

Offline DanielMark

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,475
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2006, 08:57:28 AM »
I think these guys are smoking something, and it ain't tobacco.

Better they should research the correlation between quack science and the Internet.

Daniel
MEDS: REYATAZ & KIVEXA (SINCE AUG 2008)

MAY 2000 LAB RESULTS: CD4 678
VL STILL UNDETECTABLE

DIAGNOSED IN 1988

Offline LatinAlexander

  • Member
  • Posts: 599
  • Bogota, Colombia
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2006, 12:30:23 PM »
Actually, I asked my ID about smoking...He told me we (+) should avoid smoking right away.

http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/125/3/1071

IN short, smoking kills some macrophages....

Alex
Poz since Jul 19 2006
Initial numbers : CD4-250 VL 3500
First labs after HAART (Dec 04-2006) : CD4-432 VL-<40 (Undetectable)  cd4%=25.11%
Started HAART: Combivir+Efavirenz Aug 26 7:38 pm
Feb 08 2007 - Gradually stopping HAART cause of Myalgia. Protecting Efavirenz. Stopped Efavirenz, ahead with Combivir....
February 17 Combivir stopped.
April 3 -07 : Started ddi+3tc+efavirenz...
Gay and positive (What a lack of Identity...:) )
Looking for my Ben....

Offline Life

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,388
  • Member 2005
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2006, 12:48:15 PM »
Alex, what about microfags?  Am I in jeapardy?

Offline LatinAlexander

  • Member
  • Posts: 599
  • Bogota, Colombia
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2006, 12:57:20 PM »
LOL, considering that you do not live in a lung, I do not think you are at risk! :D

Alex
Poz since Jul 19 2006
Initial numbers : CD4-250 VL 3500
First labs after HAART (Dec 04-2006) : CD4-432 VL-<40 (Undetectable)  cd4%=25.11%
Started HAART: Combivir+Efavirenz Aug 26 7:38 pm
Feb 08 2007 - Gradually stopping HAART cause of Myalgia. Protecting Efavirenz. Stopped Efavirenz, ahead with Combivir....
February 17 Combivir stopped.
April 3 -07 : Started ddi+3tc+efavirenz...
Gay and positive (What a lack of Identity...:) )
Looking for my Ben....

Offline Life

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,388
  • Member 2005
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2006, 01:10:29 PM »
wheeeeu...  :)

Offline BillyPsych

  • Member
  • Posts: 10
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2006, 01:24:55 PM »
This was an actual quote from the article mentioned:

"Dr Furber said five of these papers revealed that smoking increased the risk of acquiring HIV - smokers were between 60-300% more likely to acquire HIV compared with non-smokers.". 

This article also suggested that the correlation between smoking and acquiring HIV was due to the fact that smokers tend to take more risks.

Does this same "theory" apply to people who participate in extreme sports.  Bunging jumping, skydiving, etc.....

Billy

Offline Cliff

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,645
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2006, 01:51:36 PM »
 ???

I suppose folks should stop smoking and get circumcized, then they may be able to avoid HIV.  Or they could just use condoms consistently.

Offline DingoBoi

  • Member
  • Posts: 1,355
  • Bailey's Infected Cream™ Served since 2004
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2006, 02:22:16 PM »
my take on it is that people is exactly mentioned... smokers tend to take more risks. 

Smokers tend to go to bars more, drink more and as a result may have more sexual contacts (protected or unprotected) from opportunity.  It's basically catergorizing a group of people (smokers) as RISKY individuals.  

Just like them hookers.  They must be at higher risk because they are hookers.   It's the behavior, not the fact that one may be a smoker or a hooker....or both. 

It's a disturbing stereotype.

Does it increase  tranmission risk?  nope
« Last Edit: September 25, 2006, 02:29:41 PM by DingoBoi »

Offline allopathicholistic

  • Member
  • Posts: 3,258
Re: Smokers 'at greater risk of HIV'
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2006, 11:57:00 PM »
It's basically catergorizing a group of people (smokers) as RISKY individuals.  

does seem kinda arbitrary and simplistic ... it could be that someone was subconsciously wanting xyz result from the start and then approved research to validate/cement it. .... but one would think money, resources and time could be put to better use  :-\

 


Terms of Membership for these forums
 

© 2014 Smart + Strong. All Rights Reserved.   terms of use and your privacy
Smart + Strong® is a registered trademark of CDM Publishing, LLC.