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Offline numbersguy82

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Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« on: January 15, 2012, 09:38:11 AM »
http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/13/10152446-cruise-ship-runs-aground-off-italy-deaths-reported

Most of you have probably heard about the cruise ship that ran aground and forced its 4200 passengers to abandon ship off the coast of Italy. Sadly it appears 3 people are dead and dozens more missing. What a terrible tragedy.

So I wonder what impact this will have on the cruise industry as a whole? The indsutry will probably be sued and spend tons of money not only making up for the passenger losses, but repairing its image in the public's eye. Just curious what you guys think. I know the airline industry very rarely suffers long term impacts because of crashes, unless major negligence is the culprit, and overall cruising is safe. In Port Everglades Florida, the largest port in the world, in any given week up to 60k passengers successfully embark and debark cruise liners.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 10:18:35 AM by numbersguy82 »
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Re: Cruise ship accident. Uh Oh maybe it's time for a career change
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2012, 09:46:55 AM »
yes horrible accident.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 10:10:32 AM by mecch »
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Re: Cruise ship accident. Uh Oh maybe it's time for a career change
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 09:57:27 AM »
Good point Mecch.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 10:12:09 AM by numbersguy82 »
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Re: Cruise ship accident. Uh Oh maybe it's time for a career change
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2012, 10:04:57 AM »
That accident looks so horrible, and the image of the half sunk boat is extremely graphic and memorable.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 10:11:01 AM by mecch »
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Offline numbersguy82

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Re: Cruise ship accident. Uh Oh maybe it's time for a career change
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 10:09:33 AM »

There were more pics on a different link which I didn't post which were even more graphic. The worst part was usually passengers are given safety and emergency instructions prior to leaving port. However in this case they weren't given instructions and it was scheduled for the next day. That is just a gross injustice. Every cruise I've ever been on we have learned about our life boat assignment and emergency procedures PRIOR to leaving port.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 10:12:31 AM by numbersguy82 »
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2012, 10:27:57 AM »
My parents are going on a cruise in 2 weeks, and they go on them about once a year. I doubt they'll change their habits over this. And they've actually been on a cruise where something "non-routine" happened though I forget the details exactly. Obviously nothing like this.

I would assume that taking a cruise is still safer than driving a car.

Also, the BBC video I saw of this said this was the last day of the cruise so I'm not sure it's accurate to state that they'd not received safety instructions for ship evacuation.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 10:30:51 AM by Miss Philicia »
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Offline numbersguy82

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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2012, 10:43:10 AM »
My parents are going on a cruise in 2 weeks, and they go on them about once a year. I doubt they'll change their habits over this. And they've actually been on a cruise where something "non-routine" happened though I forget the details exactly. Obviously nothing like this.

I would assume that taking a cruise is still safer than driving a car.

Also, the BBC video I saw of this said this was the last day of the cruise so I'm not sure it's accurate to state that they'd not received safety instructions for ship evacuation.

Agreed I think the only danger in cruising is increased waist size which is how it should be LOL

The reports that I've seen state that this was the first day and that safety instructions were scheduled for Saturday (the next day). However this was what I heard at 3 AM this morning while I was watching a rerun of the GOP undecided debate from South Carolina. I think sometimes info comes out slowly and many times inaccurately. I have to bet that if they didn't get safety instructions then there will def be some problems.

In any event the captain is in major trouble since he abandoned ship prior to many other passengers... which I guess is against maritime law. Who knew the captain really does have to go down with the ship.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2012, 10:46:05 AM by numbersguy82 »
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Offline bocker3

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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2012, 11:01:29 AM »
I get on a cruise ship on Feb 4. 
While this is a terrible tragedy and Carnival cruises (owner of the Costa line) will have lots of questions to answer, I don't think it will have a material impact on the industry as a whole (not sure if Costa will survive it though). 
We usually go on at least 1 cruise each year -- sometimes 2 or 3 -- and I see nothing changing in our pattern.

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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2012, 01:14:35 PM »
We go on a cruise on Feb 10th and have no fear.
If a gay boat sinks, they will say it was god getting us!
The hetros were just unlucky....

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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2012, 08:18:45 PM »
What a horrible tragedy. They are also reporting that the Captain abandoned the ship maybe as early as 3 hours before the rest of the crew and passengers. Is there no chivalry anymore, arent they supposed to go down with the ship.

There were 2 queens from San Antonio on the ship, they've made the rounds of the news shows and gave a harrowing story saying that they received no safety briefings and were given wrong info by crew members about where to go to board life boats. Sounds like it was a real cluster fuck.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/San-Antonio-man-survives-cruise-ship-disaster-2546095.php

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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2012, 09:14:34 PM »
They are also reporting that the Captain abandoned the ship maybe as early as 3 hours before the rest of the crew and passengers.

Maybe he had to sober up....


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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2012, 11:28:39 AM »
While I've never gone on a cruise, I do travel from the Rock to Liverpool via ferry across the Irish Sea probably at least once a year or so. They ALWAYS give the safety briefing while still in port, usually while the crew is busy closing the doors to the car decks and heaving the lines. By the time the side-thrusters are engaged to pull away from the harbour wall/jetty, the briefing is wrapping up. (Crossing takes between about two and a half hours to around four and a half, depending on weather and the type of boat - sea-cats are the quickest.)
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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2012, 12:08:14 PM »
I have taken about 16 cruises and EVERY SINGLE TIME, we have had our muster (safety drill) prior to leaving the embarkation port.  The only change has been in the last couple of years, they went from requiring we wear our life jackets to the muster to, now, we just have to carry them there.  Once there, they explain what would happen in an emergency and go over the proper way to put on the life jacket.  People tend to grumble about the muster -- something tells me that folks will be listening closely on Feb 4th of this year........

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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2012, 12:11:58 PM »
I've been on two cruises (thanks, Mom and Dad!) and it was exactly as Mike just described, and like Ann I've been on several European ferries and it's the same. But it's like on an airplane, most people go through the motion and don't really listen to it, hence the chaos when something actually happens.
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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2012, 01:23:03 PM »
I think the Capt. of the Cruise ship is a coward, and he should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, @ at the very least brought up on MURDER CHARGES, he was
negligent in the process of his duties  >:( the fucker left and took a taxi, when he should have been there to help as the ship went down :(
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2012, 05:45:26 PM »
Get a load of these transcripts... Amazing. The Capt is a crook and should be prosecuted...

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/17/port-authority-to-cruise-ship-captain-get-on-board-damn-it/?hpt=hp_c1
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2012, 07:31:22 PM »
A radio report this morning said that the Captain noted that the "...ship catapulted him into the water near the shore and he simply swam the short distance to land..."  So the ship helped to save his life? :o
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2012, 06:34:32 PM »
He's now revised his story and has told investigators that he tripped and fell off the boat and into a life boat. ::) Seriously I just heard this on NBC Nightly News (with Brian Williams)

But aren't the lifeboats enclosed? so how can you "fall into one".

ROFLMAO! what a creep.
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2012, 08:40:51 PM »
Get a load of these transcripts... Amazing. The Capt is a crook and should be prosecuted...

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/17/port-authority-to-cruise-ship-captain-get-on-board-damn-it/?hpt=hp_c1

yes extremely disturbing.
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2012, 09:40:41 PM »
He's now revised his story and has told investigators that he tripped and fell off the boat and into a life boat. ::) Seriously I just heard this on NBC Nightly News (with Brian Williams)

But aren't the lifeboats enclosed? so how can you "fall into one".

ROFLMAO! what a creep.

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Re: Cruise ship accident. Oh No
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2012, 08:06:01 PM »
This is almost exactly how I got HIV.

Except instead of a lifeboat it was a series of cocks?

 


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