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do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« on: December 08, 2011, 11:01:43 AM »
First, I want to thank everyone here for providing such a great job. Quickly into my case: I am having tonsillitis and have to treated with high dosage antibiotic, yesterday I went to clinic to have an antibiotic shot. Before the nurse gave me an IV injection, he was working with a blood sample, shaking a test tube. I did not pay attention until he stuck a needle into my arm and I saw few red dots on his finger. I’m sure it is blood from the sample which he worked with before giving me a shot (2-3 minutes before and I don’t know if it is still wet or not). I was so afraid that I pulled my arm back, made the puncture bled several drops of blood. I asked him what exactly that blood on his finger comes from, he told me that’s fine but I’m still so scared. Also this morning I visit a health care center, talk to a doctor and she told me although my case is not common but it still has a risk as the blood on his finger may contaminated the needle or the puncture site! :'( She did not suggest PEP for me, but she told me take PEP or not is up to me. Do I need PEP? I am still in 72 hours time frame. Please help asap. Thank you very much!

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Re: do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 11:04:50 AM »
HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug abusers
Mother to child

HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

You never had an exposure nor do you need nPEP

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Re: do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 11:12:57 AM »
HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug abusers
Mother to child

HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.

You never had an exposure nor do you need nPEP
Thank you RapidRod! As I understand your comment is that even if the blood has hiv, it still no risk if the doctor touch my arm or the needle? You mean the virus is still alive but it does not remain infectious??

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Re: do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 11:29:14 AM »
Smile,

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. For this reason, you were NOT at risk from the blood on your doctor's hand.

You have NOT had a risk and you do NOT need PEP.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER THE INCIDENT AT THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 11:41:07 AM »
Thank you RapidRod, Ann! You are great!! I also will keep in mind always practice safer sex. ;D
Best wishes!

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Re: do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 07:56:07 AM »
Hi everyone.. I come back here with big trouble and really need help :( Its about 1 month since I met a young girl, she is 17 yrs old. I asked her if she had sex with anyone before, and she said no.. Truly I did not believe her completely but then I decided to have sex with her without condom. She gave me short blowjob and we had vaginal intercourse. The trouble is that when I tried to put inside her but she is so tight and my head of my penis goes in 1 - 2 cm. She told me its hurt so I stop and then go to sleep. Am I at risk, assumed that she is poz? I decided not to take PEP, is it a right decision?.. I am so confused, please help.. Thank you!

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Re: do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 08:35:35 AM »
smile,

NO, you do not need PEP. You did not penetrate her deep enough to cause any concern.

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Re: do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 04:54:18 AM »
Ann,
Thank you very much for your answer. I forgot some details: at that time, she was in her period, after we had sex; she went to toilet and told me there was some menstrual blood. So even I did not penetrate her enough, but head of my penis came to contact with her pre-cum and menstrual blood, is it still safe?

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Re: do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2012, 07:22:50 AM »
Smile,

The fluid in a woman's genital tract that may be infectious is the cervico-vaginal fluid, which is a thick mucus that covers and protects the cervix. The cervix lies deep inside the vagina and you weren't anywhere near it.

The fluid a woman produces when sexually excited is not "pre-cum" nor is it cum. It's lubricating fluid and it is produced by two glands on either side of the vaginal opening. I have yet to find one shred of evidence that this fluid is any more infectious than sweat or tears - and sweat and tears are NOT infectious fluids. Don't worry about the menstrual fluid either.

You're worrying about this unnecessarily. Give it up and get on with your life.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 01:00:41 AM »
Hi everyone,
I am very worried and need your help now. Into my story:
Yesterday I had sex with sw. At first, she gave me oral sex for 2 minutes. Then while we were laying on bed kissing, I felt penis rubbed her vaginal, no penetration but some of her secretions came to contact with my head of penis. We continued to have vaginal sex, with condom. After ejaculated, I pulled out and noticed some blood on the shaft of the condom. I was freaked out and took off the condom immediately, washed and examined the condom by filling it with water. The condom is fine.
So I have some questions for you:
1. If her secretions came to contact with my head of penis while rubbing, is it a risk?
2. I asked her about the blood, she told me that she is on her period. My question is what happens if the menstrual blood seeps into condom from its base?
3. I  used my hand pull off the condom and then with that hand touched my penis. If some fluid with menstrual blood on my hand came to contact with my penis when I touched it? Besides, there was a small wound on the palm of that hand, it is healing but still bleeds if pressed down. I'm sure that when I touched the condom, the wound is exposed to her secretions.

So it is more dangerous if I have sex with someone is on her menses? And any thing I mentioned above can put me at risk? Can you explain in details (especially question no.3) please?

A lot of thanks.

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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 06:03:16 AM »
Smile,

1. If her secretions came to contact with my head of penis while rubbing, is it a risk?

No, it is NOT a risk. What you describe is called frottage (the sexual rubbing of body parts together without penetration), and frottage is NOT a risk for hiv infection.


2. I asked her about the blood, she told me that she is on her period. My question is what happens if the menstrual blood seeps into condom from its base?

Fluids getting up into the condom from the base all the way to the head of the penis just doesn't happen in the real world. This is a "whatifffff?" scenario of astronomic proportions.

Even if some blood did come into contact with the base of your penis, it would not be a risk as the skin on the shaft of your penis is no different to the skin anywhere else on your body, where there are no cells that hiv can latch onto and infect.

The area of the penis where there are the types of cells that hiv can infect are in the urethra (the opening at the tip) and the inner portion of the foreskin, if you have one. As long as the head is covered by the condom, you are protected against hiv.

3. I  used my hand pull off the condom and then with that hand touched my penis. If some fluid with menstrual blood on my hand came to contact with my penis when I touched it? Besides, there was a small wound on the palm of that hand, it is healing but still bleeds if pressed down. I'm sure that when I touched the condom, the wound is exposed to her secretions.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. For this reason, getting vaginal fluids or even menstrual blood on your fingers is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

Even fingering with small cuts on the fingers is not a risk for hiv infection. As alluded to earlier, hiv can only infect a very few, very specific types of cells and these cells are simply not present in small cuts, scrapes or other small wounds.

So it is more dangerous if I have sex with someone is on her menses? And any thing I mentioned above can put me at risk?

No, it is not any more dangerous than at any other time, provided a condom is used - and you did.

Not one person has ever been infected through any of the ways you're worrying about (or have worried about in the past) and you are not going to be the first.

In adults, hiv is transmitted through:

Unprotected anal intercourse.

Unprotected vaginal intercourse.

Sharing drug injecting equipment.

And that's it.


Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY FOR HIV OVER ANY OF THE THINGS YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: do I need PEP? still in 72 hrs
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2013, 07:19:14 AM »
Thank you so much for your answer, Ann. You are doing great job!

 


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