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Author Topic: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.  (Read 7856 times)

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Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« on: December 08, 2011, 08:14:46 AM »
I have read a lot in this forum and i would say you are really doing a lot of help to most persons with different fears of HIV.
My issue is this and i will be very glad if u can make me know what the level of risk my issue is.
I had a date with a girl who works in a drinking bar and we engaged in a romance. We both had deep kissing and during the process,she bit my tongue and my inner lips and it was obvious that i bled and the cuts were open. I am very worried and scared seriously because i read on the internet that HIV can be transmitted through kissing with bleeding gums or sores in the mouth.
Assuming she has a bleeding gum or fresh wound in her mouth,and being that we also had a deep kissing which must have forced blood out of my bitten tongue and lips and even hers, please could there be any risk of HIV transmittion if she is HIV infected and if she has open sores in her mouth or tongue too?
I read in this forum that saliva kills HIV, But how about in this case where there is blood in the saliva? Can the HIV not still be active inside the blood in the saliva? please what could be the risk of HIV transmittion? Thanks.

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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 08:50:21 AM »
I've never known of a confirmed case of HIV transmission through kissing. It's safe to say you won't make history by becoming the first. And believe me, we've gotten all sorts of variations of so-called "risks" during kissing with blood, etc.

HIV is a fragile virus. And the proteins and enzymes in your saliva do a very effective job against transmission of the virus if it is present.

You are worrying needlessly and there is no need for testing.

Sexually the only confirmed risks for HIV transmission are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Use condoms consistently for those activities and you will be well protected.
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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 09:11:31 AM »
Bob,

Unless you repeatedly punched this woman in the mouth before you kissed, there could not possibly be enough blood present to pose a risk.

Kissing, no matter what details you can think of to add, is NOT a risk for hiv infection.


Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER A KISS, DEEP OR OTHERWISE, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Risk With Razor Blade In a Barber's shop!
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2011, 03:16:19 AM »
Please i would apprecate you helping me to know if i am at risk or not. I visited a barber's shop to cut my hair,he opened a new razor in my presence before he started cutting my hair and used it for a short time. After some time he dropped the razor and used a clipper and later picked up the razor again to fix some parts of my hair. Now i am afraid if he has mixed up my own razor blade with another razor that has been used by someone else,because i noticed there were some other used razors on the barbing table. Now, assuming he has mixed up my own razor with a razor that was used on an HIV infected person,what could be risk of HIV transmition? Thanks

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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2011, 06:35:51 AM »
HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.


HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug abusers
Mother to child

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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2011, 07:52:01 AM »
Your fears are all in the domain of "what ifs" and with no basis in HIV-science. As Rod has pointed out, HIV is a fragile virus. It is not passed from environmental surfaces including in the barber shop. There has never been a confirmed case of transmission in that manner.

You are worrying needlessly. Stop with all this unnecessary drama and get on with your life. And always use condoms for vaginal/anal intercourse and you will be well protected.   
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Hiv Risk in Toothbrush
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2012, 04:39:47 AM »
I have a tooth brush dat has a covering after use.I'm worried that someone used my tooth brush before I made use of it.Pls what is the Risk of hiv transmition if the person is infected.

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Re: Hiv Risk in Toothbrush
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2012, 04:41:00 AM »
■Please do not start a new thread every time you have another question or thought - regardless if you think your questions are related to each other or not. It helps us to help you when you keep all your thoughts or questions in one thread and it helps other readers to follow the discussion. Additional threads will be merged.


■If you cannot find your thread, click on the "Show own posts" link in the left-hand column of any forum page, under your name.

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Hiv Risk in Toothbrush
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2012, 07:47:04 AM »
i have a toothbrush that has a covering.i am worried that someone used my tooth brush before i used it within some minutes.pls could there be any risk f hiv transmition if the person who used it is infected?

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Re: Hiv Risk in Toothbrush
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 08:05:30 AM »
Are you having trouble understanding the posting guidelines of this forum?

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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 08:58:11 AM »
I've merged your threads here. Our rule as stated in the opening thread of this section is that members put all of their entries in the same thread. You should be writing only in this thread if you post anything more in the future.

As for your latest concern you are again worrying needlessly, in this case just another what if. HIV is a fragile virus and is not transmitted from environmental surfaces such as a toothbrush, food, doorknob, toilet seat, cups and other things that people worry about unnecesarily.

If you can't get past your excessive worrying about HIV, then I suggest you see a therapist or other professional to sort out what's driving your concerns. HIV is not a concern for you and it won't be as long as you consistently use condoms for vaginal and anal intercourse and don't share intravenous needles. It's just that simple.

Should you return with other fanciful fears you are going to find yourself getting a Time Out from the site. Consider yourself warned.   
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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2012, 09:08:19 AM »
Thank you for response.pls pardon me over my worries,I hope to do my best on handling my fears.I heard about an issue of a nanny who infected some kids wit hiv,that she was using the kids tooth brush along with them,and when the kids tested positive to hiv,the nanny was also tested,which she was positive.You can as well review this story if its really possible for the kids to have been infected this way.pls don't be offended,my tooth brush per say has a covering that could prevent full air from penetratin to get it dried up and my exact fear was that there could have been no air to get it dried up before I used it and if there was an infected blood on it,it would not have been able to dry up to kill the virus if there is on the brush.kindly give me this last response and I won't come back with this same issue again.thanks.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2012, 09:16:21 AM by bobcast »

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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2012, 09:13:52 AM »
You need to stop looking for stories to feed your worst fears and all to no good purpose. We've told you what you need to do to protect yourself from HIV.

And by the way, stay out of other member threads as I just noticed you posted an entry elsewhere. That's against our rules as stated in the opening thread of this section. This is the only play you should be posting.
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Re: i was bitten on my tongue during kissin.
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2012, 12:31:08 PM »
I had a protected sex with a girl who said she has the feeling that she is likely to be HIV positive bcos she has lived a rough and insecured life in her past,I even wore double condoms to avoid any risk of burst at all.The morning of that day that I had the protected sex with her,I had some pepperish bruise with my sponge on my scrotum and I have been so worried if there could be any risk of transmittion of hiv if the vaginal fluid has rubbed on the bruise which I had pepperish sensations while I was bathing..Secondly,I sucked her nipples with salty taste on my tongue.pls could there have been any risk of transmition?Pls I'm using a mobile phone to post this,so I can't really make use of the proper features or right directions as it is on a normal computer,pls pardon me if I have done the wrong thing by posting like this.Thanks

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Re: Re: i was bitten on my tongue during kissin.
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2012, 12:36:46 PM »
You never had an exposure and if you don't start using condoms correctly you will put yourself at risk. You only use one condom at a time.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 12:45:54 PM by RapidRod »

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Re: Re: i was bitten on my tongue during kissin.
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2012, 12:43:32 PM »
During sex,none of the condoms got broken.But pls what could be the risk of wearin two condoms at a time?

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Re: Re: i was bitten on my tongue during kissin.
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2012, 12:46:56 PM »
Condom failure from the friction of two condoms rubbing together.

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Re: Re: i was bitten on my tongue during kissin.
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2012, 07:57:58 AM »
Absolutely do not double up when using condoms. As Rod has indicated, doubling can cause condom breakage. If that had happened to you, you would have been able to see it quite clearly because when condoms break it's visible to the eye. The condom(s) end up looking like a hoop with a lot of fringe on the penis.

One condom properly worn will do the job very effectively of protecting you. And always use only water-based lube.

You have no cause for concern this time.
Andy Velez

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Re: Re: i was bitten on my tongue during kissin.
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2012, 08:24:11 AM »
Sometimes I wonder ??? its so difficult to remove fear out of the mind even after I have been told that I had no exposure to HIV,besides I even had to confirm from the girl I had protected sex with if she ever observed if the condom I wore was broken or not and she told me it were all intact althrough while W?? had sex.Pls Andy and your Crew,I know there are some other persons who are havin this same experience like myself,Do u have any idea of how this said fear can be stopped,apart from suggestin a test...??ãñ? u.

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Re: Re: i was bitten on my tongue during kissin.
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2012, 08:46:36 AM »
Sometimes I wonder ??? its so difficult to remove fear out of the mind even after I have been told that I had no exposure to HIV,besides I even had to confirm from the girl I had protected sex with if she ever observed if the condom I wore was broken or not and she told me it were all intact althrough while W?? had sex.Pls Andy and your Crew,I know there are some other persons who are havin this same experience like myself,Do u have any idea of how this said fear can be stopped,apart from suggestin a test...??ãñ? u.
■Please do not post questions that you have about your own concerns in another person's thread. This is called thread hijacking and we do not encourage this practice.

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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2012, 09:09:06 AM »
Bob,

I removed the posts and responses you created in someone else's thread. You've been asked several times now to read the Welcome thread and I suggest you do so before you end up banned. I need you to adhere to our posting rules.




You did not have a risk for hiv infection, as you have been told. If testing is the only way you're going to believe us, go test and collect your negative result.

If you cannot move past this, I suggest you seek out counseling for your hiv paranoia. We cannot help you with that here.

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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2012, 10:34:01 AM »
I have been able to locate my own thread now.tank you very much Andy and all that has been of help in this site/forum. Here goes my question. I have been told that I had no exposure after having a protected sex with a girl who told me she was not sure of her HIV status. However,I still have that fear and worries in me even while I have told in this forum that I have no exposure to hiv.please kindly help me with any idea or suggestion of how I can remove this fear out of my mind apart from suggestion a test. I know that there are some persons who experience this same kind of fear or worries even after bein told they had no risk.I ?ill be glad to hear some helpin ideas or suggestions from you.tanks.

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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2012, 10:48:08 AM »
Thanks for your response,I'm sorry I sent the same worries,it was a mistake.I ?ill try and help myself in overcoming my fears.thanks once again.

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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2012, 12:20:12 PM »
We can only evaluate risk or non-risk. As for eliminating your fears, if you find that remains a significant problem for you, then see a counselor or other professional to discuss the situation. We cannot address that properly in this setting. We do know you do not at this point have an HIV problem. 
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Re: Bleeding on my tongue and inner lip during kissing.
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2012, 06:37:37 AM »
Please what's the possibilty of hiv transmittion if an infected vaginal fluid or wetness rubs or spills over a fresh/open bruise/scratch on my scrotum,assumin she has a high viral load. Secondly,During while I sucked her nipples,I had a salty tastes which got me worried,what could also be the possible risk of transmittion of hiv,assuming the viral load in her is high? Please kindly give me a clear answer to the two questions and I ?ill so appreciate.thanks.

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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2012, 08:05:12 AM »
Bob,

There is absolutely no chance of hiv infection through your scrotum nor through sucking nipples, regardless of how high her viral load might be.

The surface of your scrotum is OUTSIDE your body, and hiv is only successfully transmitted INSIDE the body.

Only tiny babies who rely solely on breast milk for their nourishment are in any danger from breast milk. I trust you're not a tiny baby.

Hiv is transmitted through:

Unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.

Sharing drug injecting equipment.

From mother to child in the womb or during birth.

Provided you've not engaged in any of those three activities, then you have not been at risk.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE!!!

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.


Please consider yourself warned!

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2012, 05:06:04 AM »
Ann I read your quote; There have been three long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.;   Now my question is this: Is nipple suckin an Oral activity as well? Secondly, what do u say about the salty taste that the nipple gives out during ???? it is bein sucked by an adult? Could that salty taste be infectious even ???? she has a high viral load? I ?ill appreciate your response Ann. Thanks.

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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2012, 06:24:19 AM »
Bob,

Everyone's skin tastes salty. Sweat is salty. Sweat is NOT infectious for hiv regardless of a person's viral load.

Nipple sucking for an adult is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Breast milk is only a danger to tiny babies who rely on beast milk as their sole source of nourishment. You've already been told this.

You have NOT had a risk for hiv infection!

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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