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Author Topic: Social Security is most important in rural areas  (Read 1763 times)

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Offline Assurbanipal

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Social Security is most important in rural areas
« on: December 01, 2011, 12:09:49 PM »
Interesting map, here


Social security provides almost twice the percentage of income to people living in rural areas as in urban areas




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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2011, 12:15:30 PM »
Doesn't surprise me, though it always seems rural residents are absolutely convinced that they're subsidizing lazy welfare queens in Cadillacs driving down a big city boulevard. You can easily notice on your lovely map that the entire I-95 megalopolis corridor has the lowest rate, and that's about 60 million people in that zone.
 
I wish they broke that highest level down more -- 10-26% is a large spread. I'd love to see which counties make it to 26%. And you just know 90% of those high SS counties are deep red and conservative.
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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2011, 12:26:45 PM »

I wish they broke that highest level down more -- 10-26% is a large spread. I'd love to see which counties make it to 26%. And you just know 90% of those high SS counties are deep red and conservative.

Oh that data is all available.  Browse the tables linked to these pages
http://srdc.msstate.edu/socialsecurity/

County data is in an excel file link.
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9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2011, 06:44:57 PM »
I would think people on social security reside in rural areas because the cost of living is generally cheaper.

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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2011, 08:08:31 PM »
I would think people on social security reside in rural areas because the cost of living is generally cheaper.

That -- and there tends to be fewer high paying jobs too. 
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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2011, 08:10:30 PM »
I'm sure some people move, but most people aren't going to pull up roots for this-and-that abstract reason. I mean look at you Southern queers. You all complain endlessly about the homophobia but you never leave. ::)
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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 08:12:05 PM »
And don't forget that most of them spend their whole SSDI check on Meth and 24 pack of beer  ;D
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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2011, 08:28:46 PM »
Actually city living on SS is fabulous -- depending on the city natch. Where I live I can take public transportation and not have the large expense of a car/maintenance. Plus Section 5 of the Urban Mass Transit Act of 1964 mandates greatly reduced fares for folks like me, basically half price including regional rail (commuter rail).

I think if I carry my Medicare card with me I can also get a reduced fare on NJ Transit, and I can travel all the way into NYC on that and avoid Amslack.
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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2011, 10:18:15 PM »
I'm sure some people move, but most people aren't going to pull up roots for this-and-that abstract reason. I mean look at you Southern queers. You all complain endlessly about the homophobia but you never leave. ::)

   It was a case of loosing everything or moving to Possum Village  :o

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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2011, 10:09:56 AM »
I would think people on social security reside in rural areas because the cost of living is generally cheaper.

That -- and there tends to be fewer high paying jobs too. 

And in the case of SSDI (I'm assuming these figures include all forms of SS, or am I mistaken?), in rural areas there are fewer desk jobs that a person of diminished physical ability could conceivably hold down. In rural areas the jobs tend to be more physical labour oriented.

The lack of public transport in rural areas also weighs in heavily. It's also a big reason why people living with hiv in rural areas are less likely to be getting the medical care they need - they simply cannot get to a doctor.
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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2011, 10:20:56 AM »
Lets not forget the stigma of living with Aids in rural areas also . It plays a huge role on who needs the extra help .

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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2011, 11:20:56 AM »
Agreed, I live in a smaller city about thirty minutes outside of Columbus Ohio, and if anyone has ever been to south-central ohio that thirty miles makes a huge difference on people. It goes from high-paid, well educated, liberals to Bible belt in a matter of minutes! I was confronted at my job by the HR rep of my regional bank I work for the other day, because gossip had gone around that I had HIV, and she had the nerve to tell me I should have notified her and my branch manager that I was HIV- Positive. How's that fair? She brought in copies of employee handbook (which my company has opted into a non discrimination policy on gays) and highlighted that my HIV- Positive status could be considered an "undesirable" thing and reflect badly on the bank. I don't know how
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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2011, 11:32:31 AM »

she had the nerve to tell me I should have notified her and my branch manager that I was HIV- Positive. How's that fair? She brought in copies of employee handbook (which my company has opted into a non discrimination policy on gays) and highlighted that my HIV- Positive status could be considered an "undesirable" thing and reflect badly on the bank. I don't know how


Sounds like a law suit in the making! You need to be documenting this and any further such exchanges with this or any other employee in your place of employment.
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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2011, 11:32:55 AM »
Agreed, I live in a smaller city about thirty minutes outside of Columbus Ohio, and if anyone has ever been to south-central ohio that thirty miles makes a huge difference on people. It goes from high-paid, well educated, liberals to Bible belt in a matter of minutes! I was confronted at my job by the HR rep of my regional bank I work for the other day, because gossip had gone around that I had HIV, and she had the nerve to tell me I should have notified her and my branch manager that I was HIV- Positive. How's that fair? She brought in copies of employee handbook (which my company has opted into a non discrimination policy on gays) and highlighted that my HIV- Positive status could be considered an "undesirable" thing and reflect badly on the bank. I don't know how

UM, yes I live  30 minutes SE of Columbus....Night and day difference.  When we lived in the burbs of Columbus, life was comfortable.  Here in hillbill country, you have to be more reserved about your lifestyle and status.  

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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2011, 11:39:58 AM »
UM, yes I live  30 minutes SE of Columbus....Night and day difference.  When we lived in the burbs of Columbus, life was comfortable.  Here in hillbill country, you have to be more reserved about your lifestyle and status.  

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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2011, 12:10:46 PM »
Yeah I live in circleville and work in chillicothe. It's a world of a difference
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05/15/11 - Genotype Test revealed no mutations
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07/01/11- CD4/VL 125/900
09/26/11- CD4/VL 183/90
10/20/11- CD4/VL  172/72
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12/20/11- CD4/VL 186/<20!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY UD!
02/10/12 -CD4/VL 175/70
02/14/12- New Regimen: Norvir, Prezista, Isentress, Truvada
03/05/12 - CD4/VL 203/30 :
04/06/2012: cd4 228 vl <20
05/26/2012 cd4/vl 253/80
07/25/2012 cd4/vl 249/<20
09/10/2012 cd4/ vl 294/<20
Medications:
Prevacid 30, Ativan 2mg 4x/day,Testim 50mg daily, Certavite Multivitamin with Antioxidants, Quinapril 40mg, Fish Oil 3/day, 1000mg Garlic, 2-4 G Carafate, Paxil 20mg, Dapsone 100mg, Norvir, Prezista, Truvada, Isentress.
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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2011, 12:11:09 PM »
Sounds like a law suit in the making! You need to be documenting this and any further such exchanges with this or any other employee in your place of employment.


I am, thanks :)
04/14/11  HIV- + Diagnosis
05/15/11 Initial CD4/VL reading: 89/ 550,000
05/15/11 - Genotype Test revealed no mutations
06/01/11 -Started Atripla
07/01/11- CD4/VL 125/900
09/26/11- CD4/VL 183/90
10/20/11- CD4/VL  172/72
11/15/11- CD4/VL 185/82
12/20/11- CD4/VL 186/<20!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY UD!
02/10/12 -CD4/VL 175/70
02/14/12- New Regimen: Norvir, Prezista, Isentress, Truvada
03/05/12 - CD4/VL 203/30 :
04/06/2012: cd4 228 vl <20
05/26/2012 cd4/vl 253/80
07/25/2012 cd4/vl 249/<20
09/10/2012 cd4/ vl 294/<20
Medications:
Prevacid 30, Ativan 2mg 4x/day,Testim 50mg daily, Certavite Multivitamin with Antioxidants, Quinapril 40mg, Fish Oil 3/day, 1000mg Garlic, 2-4 G Carafate, Paxil 20mg, Dapsone 100mg, Norvir, Prezista, Truvada, Isentress.
PRN: Marinol, Baclofen, Ultrum, Patanase, Lidoderm

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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2011, 04:42:45 PM »

I am, thanks :)

I'd highly recommend that you talk to a lawyer at your ASO or to a lawyer at the EEOC about this as well. (EEOC 800 #  1-800-669-4000)

It's good you are keeping records to protect yourself.  It wouldn't hurt to have a discussion with a lawyer to see what else you might want to be doing.
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%

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Re: Social Security is most important in rural areas
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2011, 04:45:04 PM »
And in the case of SSDI (I'm assuming these figures include all forms of SS, or am I mistaken?)

Yes, it is included.  I didn't post it because the numbers weren't as dramatically different, but it is included.
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%

 


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