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Offline cnichol

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Chlamydia and Oral Sex - HIV Risk
« on: November 15, 2011, 11:19:18 AM »
So I guess I'll ask my question regarding oral sex and HIV risk because my situation seems a little different from the others I have read on here.  I am a gay male and my encounter was with another male.  Here is my story:

On October 2, I both received and gave oral sex to a guy.  The oral sex lasted no more than 30 seconds on each of us.  There was no ejaculation in either mouth.  On October 24 (22 days) was tested at my doctor's office for STDs and HIV.  The HIV test was a blood draw that was sent to a lab.  HIV was negative but I was positive for chlamydia. Took antibiotics - all clear. November 3 (32 days) I had a rapid finger-prick test that was negative for HIV, November 9 (38 days) rapid finger-prick test that was negative for HIV.

My concern is the presence of chlamydia, the fact that I am uncircumcised, and the probability that I am infected with HIV.  Even though I have read that chlamydia can be in the body for a long time without showing any symptoms, I started showing symptoms a little over 2 weeks after this encounter, which leads me to believe this guy had chlamydia and passed it on to me. I have also read that chlamydia increases the likelihood of HIV transmission.  I have also read that being uncircumcised increases the risk as well. I asked the guy and he told me that he was tested in July and was negative for HIV and that he practices safe anal sex.  Now, from reading this website I gather the consensus is that you cannot get HIV from receiving oral sex (i.e. putting my penis in this guys mouth).  Should I be concerned because his penis was in my mouth for a period of time?

I can't really say that I have been experiencing any "symptoms" because my stress level is through the roof which is causing lack of sleep.  I will say that I had some diarrhea last Friday (day 40) and have been feeling nauseous since then.

Should I continue to test for HIV or am I just being a bit paranoid? Also - could someone tell me if any of the HIV tests that I have taken are what's considered a "4th generation" test?  Thanks for your time.

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Chlamydia and Oral Sex - HIV Risk
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2011, 12:48:28 PM »
Oral sex is not a risk of HIV transmission.

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Re: Chlamydia and Oral Sex - HIV Risk
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 08:44:28 AM »
Your saliva contains over a dozen elements and proteins which very effectively prevent the transmission of viable HIV. As for receiving oral, it is one of the most common of sexual activites and in the entire history of the epidemic there has never been a confirmed case of transmission in that manner.

There is no need for testing nor for further concern on your part. If you have any "symptoms," discuss them with your doctor if they persist. They have nothing to do with HIV.
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Re: Chlamydia and Oral Sex - HIV Risk
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2011, 09:41:36 AM »
So I guess the concensus is that I have nothing to be concerned about?  The "addition" of a chlamydia diagnosis into this situation would not change anyone's opinion?

Just a few follow-up questions that I am hoping someone can answer so this way I don't keep posting unnecessarily:

(1) Do we have "4th generation" HIV tests here in the U.S.?  Everything I found online seems to state they are available in the U.K. but I don't see any reference to it in the U.S.

(2) If HIV is my only concern (not other STDs), I can engage in as much oral sex as I want (giving and receiving) without fear of contracting HIV?

(3) What about rubbing penises together and one guy ejaculating on the penis of another guy? No risk of HIV?  What about a risk of other STDs in this circumstance?

(4) I have seen over and over again on this site that the ONLY way to acquire HIV (sexually) is through unprotected vaginal or anal sex.  This question might be one that we are never going to be able to answer, but why, then, do the CDC and some doctors advise people/their patients that you can acquire HIV through oral sex (although they would agree it is a lower risk). It seems like that statement causes quite a few people to be concerned about their possible exposure to HIV based on the number of posts on this and other websites concerning people's fear of HIV from sexual encounters that are oral in nature (me included)

Thanks for the responses already.

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Re: Chlamydia and Oral Sex - HIV Risk
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2011, 09:42:57 AM »
You never had an exposure to HIV and don't need an HIV test.

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Re: Chlamydia and Oral Sex - HIV Risk
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 10:26:37 AM »
C,

1. Yes, they are available. There's not much difference between 3rd generation tests and 4th generation tests and they both will normally pick up an infection by six weeks. If you're that worried about what generation the test is, you'll have to ask, but don't be surprised when they don't know. It's not an important factor.

2. Yes. Oral isn't a risk.

3. Rubbing penises (or the rubbing of the genital areas in general) is called frottage and frottage is not a risk for hiv infection. Successful hiv infection only occurs INSIDE the body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.

4. You'll have to ask the people who say that. In my opinion, I think people who are hiv negative overreact and do not generally have experience of having a long term relationship with someone who is positive and therefore don't really know what they're talking about when it comes to hiv transmission.

They also seem to ignore the fact that there have been three long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

Chlamydia has one of the highest infection rates amongst all the STIs. It is VERY easily transmitted and it is very prevalent in the 16 - 30 population. You run the risk of becoming infected with chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis and herpes any time you give or get a blowjob, but not hiv. They can all be present without any obvious symptoms, so if you're a sexually active adult, you need to have a FULL sexual health check-up at least once a year.

Provided you use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to come back with negative results. It really is that simple!!!

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Re: Chlamydia and Oral Sex - HIV Risk
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2011, 10:49:18 AM »
Rod, Andy, and Ann -

Many thanks for your thoughtful responses.

I guess that so long as the CDC and some doctors continue to advise that oral sex carries a risk of HIV infection, you'll be fielding questions from people who were worried like I was. Thank you for not growing tiresome of answering these same types of questions over and OVER again. 

Take care.

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Re: Chlamydia and Oral Sex - HIV Risk
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2011, 11:01:52 AM »
C,

As long as people let their emotions sway their opinions instead of science, we're going to have people insisting there is a risk when there is not. People are terrified of hiv because of the life-long social consequences of being positive more than anything else, unlike any other illness. Those of us who live with hiv are modern-day lepers. It sucks, but that's how we humans act.

Just make sure you use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and get regular, routine sexual health check-ups and you'll be fine where hiv is concerned. Yes, it really is that simple.

To be honest, I do get really, really tired of all the kissing, wanking, fingering, lap-dance questions, but I keep at it because it's one way to educate people and hopefully, stop the ignorance, stigma and prejudice we face.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline cnichol

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Rimming and Fingering (with some frottage)
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2012, 01:59:22 PM »
Hi - about a week ago I engaged in some sexual activity with another man.  We were in the shower when he repeatedly inserted his finger into my rectum.  He then proceeded to insert his tongue into my rectum.  He then rubbed his penis against my rectum (no insertion) without a condom. There was no ejaculation by him.  All these things happened in the shower with the water running over us.

I am concerned about possible exposure to HIV.  Could his finger have caused a tear in my rectum and then his saliva or precum on his penis infected me? 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
« Last Edit: June 04, 2012, 02:28:18 PM by cnichol »

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Exposure Risk
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 02:02:22 PM »
Please do not start a new thread every time you have another question or thought - regardless if you think your questions are related to each other or not. It helps us to help you when you keep all your thoughts or questions in one thread and it helps other readers to follow the discussion. Additional threads will be merged.

If you cannot find your thread, click on the "Show own posts" link in the left-hand column of any forum page, under your name.


Offline cnichol

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Re: Exposure Risk
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2012, 02:04:29 PM »
Sorry!  Would you mind "merging" my posts?

Thanks.

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Re: Chlamydia and Oral Sex - HIV Risk
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2012, 03:21:44 PM »
I've merged your threads here. This is the only one which you should be using for any further entries.

As for your latest incident, you are worrying needlessly. None of the activities in the shower would have put you at risk for HIV. Sexually the only confirmed risks for HIV transmission are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. As long as condoms are used consistently for those activities you will be well protected.

Rubbing, anal rimming, fingering, mutual masturbation including with ejaculation -- none of those are risks for HV. There is no need for testing in relation this incident.
Andy Velez

Offline cnichol

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Re: Chlamydia and Oral Sex - HIV Risk
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2012, 03:42:02 PM »
Andy -

Thanks for the response.  I think I've just been over thinking the whole situation.  I did talk to the guy to confirm his HIV status and whether or not penetration occurred and he told me he had no STDs and that he didn't put his penis in my rectum.  Even if he was unsure of his HIV status the fact that he didn't penetrate me with his penis put me at ease.

His response combined with what you write here should allow me to move on from this and not worry. (I hope)  :-) 

Thanks again for your help.

 


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