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Offline Whatrisk

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Potential Risk and Questions!
« on: November 11, 2011, 04:11:05 PM »
You guys are absolutely remarkable for your daily assistance with people in desperate need of reassurance! I've been a guest for a while but I finally have a few questions to ask:

I notice you guys base a lot of your assessments on studies. Though they seem very reliable - what about the fact that the individuals who have HIV are on meds and therefore lowering their "infectiousness"? Im referring to the whole oral sex thing and the ejaculate in the mouth. Doesn't that make a huge difference as oppose to taking ejaculate from a random guy at the club?

My worry is that I may have gotten some pre cum in my mouth after an incident with a man and now I'm stressed.

Any advice? I didn't put the whole penis in my mouth but precum could have been in a near vicinity near my mouth.

Thanks!

Offline Whatrisk

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 04:52:19 PM »
It's been almost 3 weeks I have a sore throat and one canker sore :/

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2011, 05:23:46 PM »
Studies of serodiscordant couples (where one person is HIV-positive and the other is not) are likely to include people with well-controlled viral load, meaning that they are much less infectious than during primary infection stage.

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011, 07:11:11 PM »
Studies of serodiscordant couples (where one person is HIV-positive and the other is not) are likely to include people with well-controlled viral load, meaning that they are much less infectious than during primary infection stage.

Well, no. The Romero and Page-Shafer studies made it a point to include people both on and off medications, whose viral loads ranged from undetectable to well in the millions.

Sore throat and a canker sore after oral contact? Have you considered syphilis, gonorrhea, or chlamydia? Those pathogens are easily transmitted through even perfunctory oral contact, unlike HIV.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Offline Whatrisk

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 08:11:20 PM »
So do I have an HIV concern....?

Offline Whatrisk

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2011, 08:11:48 PM »
My doctor also said my sore throat was healing :S

Offline Whatrisk

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2011, 08:57:38 PM »
Is the canker sore even an issue...?

Offline Whatrisk

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2011, 10:46:02 AM »
GAH should I worry?

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 11:03:31 AM »
What if precum got on my tongue?

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 11:13:44 AM »
What,

You have not had a risk for hiv infection.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST SPECIFICALLY OVER THIS SITUATION, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2011, 11:19:38 AM »
What if he is super infectious haha:(

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2011, 11:30:12 AM »
What if he is super infectious haha:(

All of our risk assessments are based on the supposition, however unlikely, that the partner in question is HIV positive.

"Super Infectious" does not trump science. The risk from a person with an enormous viral load and from a person with an undetectable viral load is the same when it comes to activities that are not known to facilitate infection.

In short, you did not have a risk Glad that your throat is healing.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Offline Whatrisk

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2011, 12:06:11 PM »
Well he had a negative duo test done right before but he is gay so I'm still worried

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2011, 12:50:03 PM »
If you keep on looking for things to worry about, the universe will definitely provide them.

Of course you have no basis in HIV science to be concerned at this point, but that detail doesn't seem to carry much weight for you. Cut it out and get on with your life. It's not  who or what someone is but the actions sexually. And in this case there was no risk. Period.   
Andy Velez

Offline Whatrisk

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2011, 01:31:45 PM »
What do you mean NO BASIS IN HIV SCIENCE?

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2011, 02:50:03 PM »
What do you mean NO BASIS IN HIV SCIENCE?

He means that you didn't have a risk.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Offline Whatrisk

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2011, 03:36:29 PM »
Will my duo test at 28 days be conclusive??

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2011, 07:07:26 PM »
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Offline Whatrisk

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2011, 08:50:43 PM »
Will my duo test be conclusive?

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2011, 09:57:38 PM »
■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2011, 05:30:38 AM »
Yes is the answer.

And if you come back here again with more questions about your non-risk you are going to get a Time Out. HIV is  not your problem. Period. Get on with your life.

Andy Velez

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Re: Potential Risk and Questions!
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2011, 08:33:40 AM »

Well he had a negative duo test done right before but he is gay so I'm still worried


You know, that comment is ridiculous. Straight men can be hiv positive too, and not all gay men are hiv positive. You need to stop judging your hiv risks on a person's sexuality, or what they look like, or what they do for a living, or what they tell you about their hiv status or whatever.

It's not WHO you do, it's HOW you do it. People are not high or low or no risk, ACTIVITIES are high or low or no risk. The activities you engaged in were no risk.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!!!

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline Ann

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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2011, 08:45:54 AM »
I've just discovered that you have been posting here under the usernames of smores123, Soworried, and Sideburns. You are banned once again.

You need to get a grip and accept the fact that you had no risk. If you cannot bring yourself to believe this, go test and collect your negative result.

Ann
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Condom and Lube Info  



"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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