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Author Topic: There's a light bulb drought in Europe  (Read 2328 times)

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Offline mecch

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There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« on: November 02, 2011, 05:17:32 PM »


Well at least in Switzerland. 

It seems the only place I can buy a 100 watt frosted bulb is directly from a Swiss factory that still makes them a bit on the sly.  Somewhere near Lucerne in the middle of nowhere. 

They mostly make fabulous filament bulbs!  There's a UK online shop for the fancy "edison" ones.   http://filamentlightbulbs.co.uk/


Seems they got an exemption from the restrictions that are being phased in these years in Europe. (And are still making classic plain bulbs - if you look in their catalog - but at 3-4 bucks a pop! And it says all over the material - these are NOT to be used in the home - for "theaters" and "amusements" only..... hahaha)

I was thinking of you steam punk fans.  Do you need to start stocking up in the US, too?  Maybe Americans will say its horrible socialism or communism and refuse these restrictions. 

I must admit, it would nice to at least have a choice.  I read the best solution is a tax on incandescent but not withdrawing it completely.  I also read that the compact florescents should only be considered a transition technology because ultimately LED will be perfected, and standard. 

All the high watt frosted bulbs disappeared 2 years ago.  In January, they say its curtains for almost all incandescent bulbs.

Buying light bulbs on the grey or black market feels very Prohibition!






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Re: There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 08:39:17 PM »
the last couple of issues of WIRED magazine have had interesting articles about the history of light bulbs and the future of lighting - LEDs.

the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 is about to kick in here in the US phasing out the incandescence bulbs - not banning them per se but requiring strigent energy guidelines. These new guidelines start with 100watt bulbs in jan 2012 and finish implementing with the change of the 40-watt bulb by 2014. Eventually we'll be purchasing lighting (LED eventually) by the lumens rather than wattage.
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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 08:58:03 PM »


  Besides a UVB bulb I use 60 watt incandescent bulbs over my terrapins' basking areas.  I've stocked up somewhat.  They're on 12 hours a day so they don't last long.  Once I am out of them I'll probably switch over to a powersun bulb.   
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Offline Matts

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Re: There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 09:10:21 PM »
the EU-wide embargo of lightbulbs is quite annoying. At least Halogenbulbs are still allowed; 42 watts=70 watt normal bulb, 72=90 watts and so on.
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Re: There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 11:19:29 PM »
Hey thanks for that WIRED article, very interesting read.
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

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Re: There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2011, 12:17:51 AM »
We changed all the lights in our home to the fluorescent squiggly ones.  But, I just didn't like them.  They change how the paint color, bedding colors, etc look.  And, they have to warm up.  My brother put them in all his recessed lighting and you can't see anything for about 3 minutes and they are still not bright enough.  The LEDs are too harsh as well.  I'm hoping they perfect them.  Even the "warm" LED lights don't look right.  And, there is the issue with being able to use a dimmer on some.   

We have changed over most of our Christmas lights to LED--to help the Earth, but mainly for the money.  The Christmas electric bill is about $150 more than usual.  We decorate like the Grizwold's outside.  The color LEDs look too dark, but we will live with it.  I refuse to change the clear lights on my Christmas tree over to LED clear.  They look awful and don't have that warm glow.     

Offline Growler

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Re: There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 01:48:28 AM »
I want to know why I haven't seen any x-ray pictures of these new "energy efficient" light-bubs stuck up peoples arses?

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Offline Basquo

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Re: There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 08:17:24 AM »
I refuse to change the clear lights on my Christmas tree over to LED clear.  They look awful and don't have that warm glow.     

I got some of those and they were so bright I ended up stringing them on the back porch for year-round lighting. Home Depot sells the Martha Stewart "warm" strings and they look like the old-fashioned kind, perfect on my tree last year.

Offline mecch

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Re: There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 01:39:32 PM »
They have quick-start flourescent bulbs now in my part of the woods. They really do get bright fast, and the light is good, but only the very most recent ones, and big brands.
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Offline mecch

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Re: There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2011, 01:43:38 PM »
I want to know why I haven't seen any x-ray pictures of these new "energy efficient" light-bubs stuck up peoples arses?

GROWLER (Who knows now that it's out there, someone's gonna do it :-))

Ew.  And haha!   ::)

There's mercury in those things, ya know.  Not that a classic lightbulb is a cake walk in the butt, of course.
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Offline hope_for_a_cure

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Re: There's a light bulb drought in Europe
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2011, 02:27:46 PM »
I will send you some mecchy! 

 


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