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Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #50 on: November 29, 2006, 03:52:32 PM »
based on all the information you know about me....what do you think my result will be

Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #51 on: November 29, 2006, 04:05:11 PM »
Hi Worker,

It wasn't the clinic I called it was the actual Public Health clinic.....they said they are lab technicians....(I didn't leave my name) and they said the clinic where I placed the requisition has to call for results.

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2006, 04:42:50 PM »
Worried,

Are you saying that the blood draw you had was for an hiv test? Was this a routine test, or do you care to tell us why you think you needed to test?

Ann
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Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2006, 04:45:41 PM »
It was for an HIV test that I took before I joined this forum....

I took the test on Saturday (November 25)

why?

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2006, 04:53:00 PM »
Worried,

I was asking because I couldn't help but wonder if you were testing over a real risk or not. In other words, did you really need to test in the first place.

Whatever the reason for the test, you weren't at risk FROM the test.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2006, 04:56:45 PM »
Hello Ann,

This is why I took the HIV test


Hello Ann,

Well three months ago...is when it all started.  I met a guy off the internet.  We had sex only vaginal sex (with condom and he didn't cum), we french kissed, he fingered my anus, we did frottage (genital rubbing no penetration), I received oral sex from him, but I didn't perform on him.  After this I thought I placed myself at risk for HIV.  I later found out he has a gf and is having unprotected sex with her and other women, plus he use to do IV drugs.

After 4 days I was with him I asked if he could get an HIV test and he did....he showed me his HIV test result and it was negative.....still I continued to be worried.

I tested negative out to 10 weeks 5 times.  Now that I went for my final test .....the nurse that drew my blood wasn't wearing gloves.....now I feel paranoid like I have to go through the window period all over again......

Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2006, 04:58:25 PM »
the nurse drew my blood with no gloves while at the time she tested me for HEP (this was nov 7 of this year)

On november 25 I went for an HIV test cause I am afraid of the nurse drawing my blood without gloves....and also this test I took for hiv will definitavely be conclusive for my last protected sex exposure

Offline HIVworker

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2006, 05:11:41 PM »
Based on the exposure being the woman who drew your blood, your test will be negative.
NB. Any advice about HIV is given in addition to your own medical advice and not intended to replace it. You should never make clinical decisions based on what anyone says on the internet but rather check with your ID doctor first. Discussions from the internet are just that - Discussions. They may give you food for thought, but they should not direct you to do anything but fuel discussion.

Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2006, 05:19:21 PM »
Worker,

so you are saying based on the exposure being "nurse drawing my blood without gloves" will keep my HIV status to Negative?

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2006, 05:47:42 PM »
Worried,

None of the sexual activities you list are risks for hiv infection. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv transmission and you used a condom. Kissing is not a risk as saliva is not infectious - and neither is him going down on you for the same reason. Being fingered is not a risk for hiv infection. Frottage is also not a risk for hiv infection because it take place outside the body, while hiv transmission occurs INSIDE the body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse.

You have tested negative out to ten weeks and that result is not going to change, considering you have not had a risk. Also, as you have been told several times now, getting your blood drawn by a nurse who is not wearing gloves is NOT a risk for hiv infection. No way.

So, the conclusion is that you are without doubt hiv negative. If you cannot accept this fact, you would be wise to get yourself some counseling to deal with your scientifically unfounded worries.

There is nothing more we can do for you here.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Offline HIVworker

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2006, 08:14:59 PM »
Actually, based on your sexual activity AND the nurse drawing blood without gloves on, I think you don't have HIV. Do you need it spelling out any clearer than that?
NB. Any advice about HIV is given in addition to your own medical advice and not intended to replace it. You should never make clinical decisions based on what anyone says on the internet but rather check with your ID doctor first. Discussions from the internet are just that - Discussions. They may give you food for thought, but they should not direct you to do anything but fuel discussion.

Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #61 on: November 29, 2006, 10:34:10 PM »
Thanks Ann and Worker and to everyone else on this forum.....I spoke to councellors off the internet and they too said I am not at risk for HIV and they wouldn't even test me if I went to their clinic telling them my "risks".....they all say I suffer from anxiety.  I am going to seek help.

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2006, 10:46:26 PM »
Hurrah! Good for you.

Look Ann, I still got it. Whatever it is..

Rich
NB. Any advice about HIV is given in addition to your own medical advice and not intended to replace it. You should never make clinical decisions based on what anyone says on the internet but rather check with your ID doctor first. Discussions from the internet are just that - Discussions. They may give you food for thought, but they should not direct you to do anything but fuel discussion.

Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #63 on: November 29, 2006, 10:48:14 PM »
I am still waiting for my HIV test result

I hope I can hurray too and spread the word in the thread

(keeps her fingers crossed and hopes it will be negative)

Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #64 on: November 30, 2006, 09:49:37 AM »
has anyone ever heard of someone getting HIV from a nurse drawing blood with no gloves on.....sorry for asking

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #65 on: November 30, 2006, 09:52:08 AM »
With all due respect, this thread should be locked as it violates the terms of the website. Simply asking the same question over and over means you have made no progress at all. That means the post on November 29, 2006, 10:34:10 PM was a complete lie. By allowing this to go on, we make a mockery of the forum.
NB. Any advice about HIV is given in addition to your own medical advice and not intended to replace it. You should never make clinical decisions based on what anyone says on the internet but rather check with your ID doctor first. Discussions from the internet are just that - Discussions. They may give you food for thought, but they should not direct you to do anything but fuel discussion.

Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2006, 09:55:45 AM »
please don't I just asked a question.....sorry

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2006, 10:01:34 AM »
The same question that you claimed you were over already. We have told you of the risk and of the chances. You have had external verification of this. Therefore I don't see what else this website can do for you. You are constantly on the forum and it is not helping. I respectfully request that the moderators exercise some help for you by locking this thread. Clearly asking the same question has done nothing for you. You are going over and over and around and around. And you have to stop.

R
NB. Any advice about HIV is given in addition to your own medical advice and not intended to replace it. You should never make clinical decisions based on what anyone says on the internet but rather check with your ID doctor first. Discussions from the internet are just that - Discussions. They may give you food for thought, but they should not direct you to do anything but fuel discussion.

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2006, 10:06:19 AM »
Allow me to remind you of the "Welcome Thread"

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
NB. Any advice about HIV is given in addition to your own medical advice and not intended to replace it. You should never make clinical decisions based on what anyone says on the internet but rather check with your ID doctor first. Discussions from the internet are just that - Discussions. They may give you food for thought, but they should not direct you to do anything but fuel discussion.

Offline WorriedWell33

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2006, 10:14:05 AM »
Sorry I just wanted to know the risks....even though you told me.....I guess I wanted reassurance during this time of awaiting my HIV test result.

It is no picnic waiting you know

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Re: universal precautions
« Reply #70 on: November 30, 2006, 12:00:03 PM »
Worried,

I warned you yesterday about repeatedly asking about this no risk situation. And forget the pity party over waiting for results - four times a year I have to wait six weeks to get my CD4 and viral load results. If I can wait six weeks, you can wait a few days. You never had a risk to begin with. It wouldn't be so bad if you actually listened to a word we've said, but you just keep coming back with the same exact questions.

You've been on this site non-stop for the past few days and it is obviously doing you no good at all. I'm giving you a four week time out to encourage you to get the help with your OCD that you need. We cannot help you with that here.

Ann

PS, do NOT create a new account to get around your time out. If you do, you will be permanently banned, no questions asked.

« Last Edit: November 30, 2006, 12:02:28 PM by Ann »
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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