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Offline JeffInNYC

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The Pope
« on: September 17, 2006, 06:32:05 PM »
What happened now?  Was it really his fault or it whatever he said taken out of context and blown out of proportion?
Can someone give me the short version. LOL

Offline Terry

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Re: The Pope
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2006, 06:49:19 PM »
From MSNnews:

CASTEL GANDOLFO, Italy - Pope Benedict XVI said Sunday that he was “deeply sorry” about the angry reaction to his recent remarks about Islam, which he said came from a text that didn’t reflect his personal opinion.
“These (words) were in fact a quotation from a Medieval text which do not in any way express my personal thought,” Benedict told pilgrims at his summer palace outside Rome.
The pope sparked the controversy when, in a speech Tuesday to university professors during a pilgrimage to his native Germany, he cited the words of a Byzantine emperor who characterized some of the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, Islam’s founder, as “evil and inhuman.”
“At this time I wish also to add that I am deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a few passages of my address at the University of Regensburg, which were considered offensive to the sensibility of Muslims,” the pope said Sunday.
Muslim leaders in the Mideast gave mixed reactions to the pontiff’s apology.
Mahmoud Ashour, the former deputy of Cairo’s Al-Azhar Mosque, the Sunni Arab world’s most powerful institution, told Al-Arabiya TV immediately after the pope’s speech that, “It is not enough. He should apologize because he insulted the beliefs of Islam. He must apologize in a frank way and say he made a mistake.”
Mohammed al-Nujeimi, a professor at the Institute of Judicial and Islamic Studies in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, also criticized the pope’s statement.
“The pope does not want to apologize. He is evading apology and what he said today is a repetition of his previous statement,” he told Al-Arabiya TV.

 ??? ??? ???

The thing that gets me is when an Arab shot Pope John-Paul no one said anything.
And Islam is claiming to be a peaceful religion. They already have shot and killed a nun who cared for orphan Arab children and have set a number of churches on fire.

Yep, nothing like a good little religious war to make us feel good!


Offline JeffInNYC

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Re: The Pope
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2006, 06:50:58 PM »
ok I can see how maybe some people would be offended by his statements...or rather his quoted statements...but that does not justify killing a nun and the fires and other violence.

Offline blondbeauty

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Re: The Pope
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2006, 06:53:24 PM »
Killing nuns and burning churches proves the Pope is right and the intolerance of certain cultures to freedom of expresion.
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Offline david25luvit

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Re: The Pope
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2006, 07:18:46 PM »
If he's not careful.....
somebody might shoot him too.

So the Pope reads whatever they put in front of him huh? ::)
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Offline Alain

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Re: The Pope
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2006, 07:39:05 PM »
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« Last Edit: November 03, 2006, 09:36:36 PM by cowandalehouse »

Offline Iggy

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Re: The Pope
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2006, 09:02:40 PM »
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« Last Edit: January 12, 2007, 09:21:43 PM by Iggy »

Offline fearless

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Re: The Pope
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2006, 12:11:27 AM »
Terry,

Trust me on this, I'm not trying to justify either the Pope's comments or the Muslim response.

However, you should get your facts right - Turkey is not an Arab country http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.interserveusa.org/g/pic/service.arabworld.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.interserveusa.org/php/service/arabworld.php&h=290&w=425&sz=27&hl=en&start=10&tbnid=k5Nw7lpFL2mVUM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3Darab%2Bworld%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN, not all Arabs are Muslim, and the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II was not about Islam vs Christianity. It is the Bulgarian Government, likely at the prodding of the Soviet's, that was implicated in the plot to kill him.

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Offline alisenjafi

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Re: The Pope
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2006, 08:24:16 AM »
When I googled Saudi Arabia to enter that country this is their law:
 http://www.saudia-online.com/Travelling%20to%20Saudi%20Arabia.htm


CUSTOMS REGULATIONS

A number of items are not allowed to be brought into the Kingdom due to religious reasons and local regulations. These include alcoholic beverages, pork and pork products, prohibited drugs and narcotics, firearms, explosives, edged weapons and pornographic materials.

Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are also prohibited. These may include Bibles, crucifixes, statues, carvings, items with religious symbols such as the Star of David, and others. Makkah and Medina hold special religious significance and only persons of the Islamic faith are allowed entry.

There is nothing tolerent about this religion,  Right now despite the pr Islam isn't the fastest growing religion.  The pressure is on to keep the fold. And like any other desperate cult, be it Christianity there is a last resort to violence. This will be the making of the next war for sure.
One just needs to look at Africa to see the truth of this peaceful religion. Saying that Christianity has it's moments too. Religions need to be taxed!
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Offline blondbeauty

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Re: The Pope
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2006, 09:01:38 AM »
I am going to heaven because I am catholic.  :-\

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Offline Terry

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Re: The Pope
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2006, 09:11:43 AM »
Little Steve,

What I meant to say was that the Arab world said very little when the pope was shot. And you didn’t see Christians calling for the death of other religious leaders.

 


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