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« on: September 02, 2011, 08:35:06 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 12:10:33 PM »
Not too crazy about the nun look. She's evidently done some work to her face, kinda looks like my cousin Carmela in that picture.

She looks rather gorgeous in this Vionnet, at the Venice Film Festival.



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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 12:15:39 PM »
It would be nice for everyone if she has some success with this film.  The review zzzzzzzzzz.
Madonna + Movies = pretty damn awful most of the time.
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 12:17:39 PM »
She should probably be more concerned with critics calling her film "silly, preening and fatally mishandled"... seriously, how dare she fuck up a Wallis Simpson story!
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 12:19:08 PM »
And what is the reader's comment in Huffington Post - Wallis Simpson's father was black?  She was "passing" all her life?  Rich.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Leonard_Hirschberg/madonna-exes-guy-ritchie-sean-penn_n_945198_105969078.html
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 12:22:22 PM »
She should probably be more concerned with critics calling her film "silly, preening and fatally mishandled"... seriously, how dare she fuck up a Wallis Simpson story!

Yeah, 96% of the time Madonna and film are not a good combination.  You cannot expect a person who's not very good at acting to do a good job when directing.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 12:29:17 PM »
I thought the rumor was that Wallis really possessed a cock.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 01:59:12 PM »
She looks rather gorgeous in this Vionnet
it looks like a bad take-off of the Love Profusion vid  :P

at least she isn't all muscle-y, sinew-y right now :D
oddly in the pix mecch posted, she reminds me of Deborah Harry
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 03:14:37 PM »
Todays Debbie Harry, Hillary Clinton, Ancient Mae West, Todays Faye Dunaway, Norma Desmond, Todays Catherine Denueve.  The basic question is why does she look 65 in the picture.
The answer on the blogs is -
That's a super bad still, it looks better live and smiling.  
Fire the makeup artist.  
Filler used too close to event.
Lose the chipmunk implants and shes good to go.
 

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 06:04:09 PM »
Oh, I also saw Jerry Hall referenced.

I like the review that says Madonna is sadly not talented enough to make a 100% hideous movie.

Truly awful films are an art form Madonna can only aspire to
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/02/bad-films-madonna-w-e?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

i beg to differ. I walked out of Evita, and miraculously walked into Touch with those delicious young bonbons Skeet Ulrich and Bridgit Fonda.

Tried several times to watch Swept Away and simply. can. not.  I watched it on fast forward once or twice, reluctantly fascinated by Madonna's body and face. Oh, the guy was hot too.

The reviewer above - his logic would be than my Madonna walk outs weren't then truly awful films, cause such rare treasures glue you to the seat to the bitter end.


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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 06:33:00 PM »





If only she were as wonderful as Mae West!



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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2011, 06:59:26 PM »
Madonna says new album will be out next spring

http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=667738&gt1=28102

Madonna's latest cinematic effort, "W.E.," isn't exactly wowing the critics, but maybe the singer will have better luck with her return to music.

The "Material Girl" songbird announced during a recent interview that her next album -- the first since 2008's "Hard Candy" -- will be released in spring 2012
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2011, 07:09:20 PM »
I haven't bought a Madonna album since 1994's Bedtime Stories  :D

... though a friend gave me a limited edition pink vinyl Confessions on a Dance Floor
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2011, 07:16:14 PM »
Well she has made some fun music since 1994, and certainly some good remixes of such tunes by others.

What if feels like for a girl, had great remixes (2000)

There were good tunes on Dancefloor.

Give it 2 me on Hard Candy was decent in mixes without the interlude.  Beat Goes On.




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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2011, 07:18:30 PM »
There's always the random catchy song. I was referring specifically to being engaged enough to purchase an entire album. It's not like she does the remixes ::)

Come to think of it I also bought Ray of Light so my post was wrong.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2011, 07:35:01 PM »
There were good tunes on Dancefloor.

Give it 2 me on Hard Candy was decent in mixes without the interlude.  Beat Goes On.

Ray of Light is probably my favorite Madonna album. I enjoyed several songs Dancefloor. Hard Candy was not one of my favorites. Here is a Gaga comparison video for "She's Not Me", which does have a good baseline and funky little guitar track by Wendy Melvoin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo2RcQr42BY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2011, 07:50:58 PM »
The only quibble I had with Dancefloor was her ridiculous videos and disco look she attempted.  She made it far to easy for people to ridicule her.  

Hung up by Madonna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XQ2baQ5coE

Con Loli is an all time classic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me-_CJl-PF4

At this point, Dancefloor, Madonna reminded so much of the aging Dalida, from the late 70's.



Added:  but, in Hung Up, you do get to see her old face and I liked that one.  By Hard Candy it was looking haggard in the unretouched photos that showed up everywhere. 

Now we regularly have the pre-photoshop Madonna leaks from any big stuff she does. 

I thought the pre-photoshop D&G leaks looked great.  But then I am have a twisted aesthetic.

Sigourney Weaver still has her face.


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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2011, 11:24:19 PM »
Ray of Light is probably my favorite Madonna album.
I thought ROL was going to be my last Madonna album ever as that was my bday present when I was in the hospital "dying" with the PCP. I ended up listening to it over-and-over as I recovered, so it's a very poignant album for me.

which does have a good baseline and funky little guitar track by Wendy Melvoin.
anything with Wendy or Lisa is awesome  ;)
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2011, 10:38:09 AM »
I find this newest face... noteworthy.

Added:  but, in Hung Up, you do get to see her old face and I liked that one.  By Hard Candy it was looking haggard in the unretouched photos that showed up everywhere.  

Now we regularly have the pre-photoshop Madonna leaks from any big stuff she does.  

I thought the pre-photoshop D&G leaks looked great.  But then I am have a twisted aesthetic.

Since you are the OP, what is your opinion about all this? Are you saying Madonna should not have had cosmetic treatments or that she got bad work done? Are you saying she looks old? You obviously are interested in how these women are aging but I'm not sure what you are saying.

Personally, as a middle-aged man whose face is full of plastic, I am not going to fault anyone for trying to improve their appearance. People go to a plastic surgeon to look better, not worse, although it doesn't always work out that way. As far as Madonna goes, I think she is doing her best to keep in good shape and be productive. I appauld her for that. Many people, celebrity or not, let themselves go after 50. Madonna could be sitting in one her her mansions eating cookie dough, watching reality TV, playing with her kid and raking in royalty checks.

She could be Elvis.

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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2011, 02:31:35 PM »
She looks fine.  I've seen much worse plastic surgery jobs (Rupert Everett).  As someone who managed to convince his parents the need for a nose job, no judgment from me!

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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2011, 02:31:56 PM »
I am more or less with your point of view.  Observe it all.
That is why I said "noteworthy".  I noticed.  

I have followed her every step of the way.  Some people seem to think when fans or the public take up this sort of gossip it has to be black or white, a total screed of derision, or blind fan worship.

I said it would be nice for everyone if the film was a success because we know Madonna has always wanted film cred and its always been denied.  

Fans like me always appreciate the industry and ambition and willingness to keep working and put herself out there.  I watched her speak about her film at Venice and she was NOT articulate about it, her intent, anything really.  So thats painful to watch, a fail.  Just like it was painful to watch Evita so I just left.  Quite some time later, with Swept Away, again one had to avert ones eyes about what a crap fest the movie is.  But again i was fascinated what was recorded, and available for view, about what was going on in her body and face at that moment.  Shot around the same time as triumphant tours and Music and American Life, both decent discs and Music a big success for her.

She is an extremely successful artist who has some amazing talents and some other "talents" in her delusions, only.  A mixed bad, as it were.  Which some of us find touching and human.  There are some gay men, fans of her age, been there all along, we project ourselves into her, the successes and failures.  The fake British accent.  Ew. The hot boy toys after her divorce - Good for her!

So I do worry that she might misstep with the plastic surgery cause I want her cool and aging, not too fake.  

I think I agree with the gossip blog comments that she looks good animated and the first pic I saw from Venice was a poor pic and bad makeup and styling.  You will have noticed that I cheer the "unretouched" leaks, when we see the Madonna as she is, not as she must be for some D&G campaign.  
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2011, 02:37:24 PM »
She has a movie coming out?

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« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2011, 07:02:51 PM »
Mecch since you're such an expert on aging female faces (and I mean that as a compliment), why do you think the Goddess Meryl Streep looks so amazing? Or can you dig up scary pictars of her too?

Re: Sigourney, above, she's had work done, don't kid yourself.

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« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2011, 07:43:07 PM »
Sigourney looks "refreshed" or "rested".   ::) ::)   Chapin Stanford Yale
Saw Streep on some talk show in the last few months and she looked her age an lovely.  But yes, refreshed. Vassar Yale.

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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2011, 07:58:21 PM »
TMZ just released this pic of Madonna without makeup...

btw, lol @ the guy in the closet.

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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2011, 07:59:30 PM »

Classy girls, what else would we expect them to look like?



Like Meg Ryan post In the Cut



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« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2011, 08:19:01 PM »
As we said at Boy Bar, NAPS
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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2011, 08:20:47 PM »
TMZ just released this pic of Madonna without makeup...

btw, lol @ the guy in the closet.



Isn't that Zombie Boy in 35 years, scarred from tattoo removal?
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« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2011, 08:24:38 PM »
Isn't that Zombie Boy in 35 years, scarred from tattoo removal?

That star nipple reminds me of a certain wardrobe malfunction.
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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2011, 08:49:17 PM »
He looks like my HS typing teacher.
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« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2011, 09:00:48 PM »
Oh, and you don't need marker to bejazzal your magnificent manboobs:


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« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2011, 09:02:30 PM »
Wait a minute. That's Boy George isn't it?
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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2011, 09:03:08 PM »
Wait a minute. That's Boy George isn't it?

Sure as hell is
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« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2011, 09:14:12 PM »
In that case, and considering Rupert Everett, this old queen is sending mylar balloons to all the lovely ladies, above.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9NQTnLXfSA

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« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2011, 02:58:57 PM »
I saw this story on E.T. or Access Hollywood or one of those type shows...

she's definitely had something done; can't quite put my finger on what it may be.   Probably some filler, and is a bit swollen/puffy still.  It may 'calm down' a little more and look better.

I think she looks good for her age, and I am with Ford....I don't begrudge ANYONE for doing ANYTHING to make themself look better.   If you can do it, and can afford it, go for it.  I would.

All the filler I had done last summer (Radiesse) is pretty much gone bye-bye.   With the payments (or lack of) that Medicare paid my doctor, I'm sure she won't be injecting me again.... :'(
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« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2011, 05:47:49 PM »
Dolly Parton's Stairway to Heaven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJHjQ81JtY0
Really quite bizarre and wonderful.



If anyone gives Dolly any shade, I'm copying it and will duly send it to President Rick Perry, who will have you deported for unAmerican activities, not to mention bad taste.

Then again, the bible bangers hated on her for singing this Satanic music, so maybe President Rick Perry will deport Dolly for devil worship and the whiff of lesbianism.
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« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2011, 06:16:49 PM »
Love Dolly Parton. I have been listening to her new album and it is very positive, feel good music. She has always been the first to point out that there is nothing natural about her looks: "I look just like the girls next door... if you happen to live next door to an amusement park." :) She is 65 years old.

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« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2011, 07:59:51 PM »
Love Dolly Parton. I have been listening to her new album and it is very positive, feel good music. She has always been the first to point out that there is nothing natural about her looks: "I look just like the girls next door... if you happen to live next door to an amusement park." :) She is 65 years old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C10D5Xh1OTU

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« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2011, 08:11:18 PM »
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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2011, 08:18:39 PM »
I was at my friends Hair salon he works at today and his boss just went from pretty to pretty scary with her latest round of facial surgery . Its been a month now and she looks horrible still with big ole Meg Ryan lips and cheeks that would be better suited for an ass . Whats weird is no one is talking to her about it or even brought it up .

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« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2011, 08:22:23 PM »
Love Dolly Parton. I have been listening to her new album and it is very positive, feel good music. She has always been the first to point out that there is nothing natural about her looks: "I look just like the girls next door... if you happen to live next door to an amusement park." :) She is 65 years old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C10D5Xh1OTU

That's precisely why I posted her in this thread.

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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2011, 08:24:03 PM »
ick

Do you listen to share Cher too?

This from the one who posted that god awful vid from that Real Housewives  slag just awhile back?
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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2011, 08:57:16 PM »
This from the one who posted that god awful vid from that Real Housewives  slag just awhile back?

Well duh, it's a given that such things are farce. I don't run around with it in an iPod. Is uranium leaking into Lake Lanier again this week?
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« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2011, 08:59:24 PM »
Someone's cranky.
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« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2011, 09:08:15 PM »
Someone's cranky.

Perhaps she needs to get plowed.
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« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2011, 09:10:42 PM »
Sorry, busy watching Claudia Brucken sing Running Up That Hill...

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« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2011, 11:21:01 PM »
Oh! Oh!

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« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2011, 12:55:42 AM »
Whats weird is no one is talking to her about it or even brought it up .
Who would have the intimacy to say something, its work after all, and what could they possibly say?  You are thinking someone might want to ask how she feels that she had botched aesthetic surgery?   How is that gonna help.  I did say something like that to an older "gentleman friend" when yet another "adjustment" tipped his face from "this guy has had a lot of work done" to "woaw way too much work."  It. was. not. what. he. wanted. to. hear.  His old lady firends all told him he looked great and thats what he wanted to believe.  This was a lesson for me, not him.
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« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2011, 02:20:52 PM »
When I was changing planes in Memphis to a meeting in New Orleans, Dolly was sitting in front section as I was walking through. I took the op to explain and give her a SILENCE = DEATH button. She took it. I didn't quite have the nerve to pin it on her.

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« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2011, 03:16:32 PM »
I didn't quite have the nerve to pin it on her.


Probably a good thing. You wouldn't want to go down in history as the guy who popped one of Dolly's fake tits! ;D
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« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2011, 03:20:44 PM »
Probably a good thing. You wouldn't want to go down in history as the guy who popped one of Dolly's fake tits! ;D

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« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2011, 06:11:51 PM »
Probably a good thing. You wouldn't want to go down in history as the guy who popped one of Dolly's fake tits! ;D

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« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2011, 08:31:46 PM »
Sorry, busy watching Claudia Brucken sing Running Up That Hill...

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she's no Kate Bush I can tell you that much . . . she lacks the CRAZY that takes the song to a level of genius.


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« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2011, 08:35:33 PM »
You don't know who Claudia Brucken is? Figures. I heard she has a secret biohazard tattoo though...
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« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2011, 08:41:35 PM »
You don't know who Claudia Brucken is? Figures. I heard she has a secret biohazard tattoo though...

I like her Rossy de Palma profile and she has a nice voice . . . and she's worked with Heaven 17 . . .I love Let Me Go

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« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2011, 08:50:16 PM »
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« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2011, 08:58:51 PM »
Wait a minute. That's Boy George isn't it?

He must really want to hurt us with a photo like that.
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« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2011, 01:03:10 PM »
2000-2009 - Did Cher have a hit? Up to 2000 I seem to remember she was the longest success in Pop? 
I'd certainly give any new disc a listen, hoping for the best. 
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« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2011, 01:24:10 PM »
2000-2009 - Did Cher have a hit? Up to 2000 I seem to remember she was the longest success in Pop? 
I'd certainly give any new disc a listen, hoping for the best. 
2002 Song for the Lonely from "living Proof"
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As of 2011, Cher is recording her first studio album since Living Proof in 2001. She initially talked of recording a rock album in Nashville, leading to speculation that it would be country-oriented.[118] Cher has since stated on Twitter that the record will be "way dance".[119] Lady Gaga has provided a song for the album, entitled The Greatest Thing, recorded as a duet between the two singers.[120] Cher plans to release the album at Christmas.[121] The singer has also tweeted of the possibility of embarking on a comeback tour to promote the album in 2012.[122]
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« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2011, 03:19:39 PM »
2002 Song for the Lonely from "living Proof"
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That wasn't a hit.  As far as I recall it didn't even crack the top 75 either in the US or the UK.  Her last real hit was "Believe."
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« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2011, 05:20:17 PM »
That wasn't a hit.
what is the definition of a "hit"?
Top 10? Top 40? Top 100?
On what chart does it qualify to be a "hit"?

Mecch inquired about Cher's "hits" from 2000-09. Cher had had no single releases off her internet-released "Not.com.mercial" but did chart with her late 2001 release of "Living Proof", which had 4 #1 Dance Chart hits, and one Billboard hit reaching 85. While none of the songs reached the peaks of "Believe" back in 99, there were songs released off this album that did fairly well and that did place high on various charts making them at least "minor hits".

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It (the album) debuted at #9 on the Billboard Top 200 albums chart with sales of 114,000 copies in its first week.
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"Song for the Lonely" peaked at number 85 on the Billboard Hot 100 and number one on the Billboard Hot Dance Music/Club Play chart (one of four songs from the album to top the U.S. dance chart).
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U.S. Billboard Hot 100 85
U.S. Billboard Hot 100 Singles Sales 7
U.S. Billboard Hot Dance Club Play 1
U.S. Billboard Hot Dance Singles Sales 1
U.S. Billboard Hot Adult Contemporary Tracks 11[/b]
U.S. Billboard Hot Adult Top 40 Tracks 31
U.S. Billboard Top 40 Mainstream 38
Argentinian Singles Chart 63
Canadian Singles Chart 18
Czech Airplay/Singles Chart 9
Latvian Singles Chart 25
Romanian Singles Chart 39
 
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« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2011, 06:03:32 PM »
I think I was referring to her being the only pop star with "no. 1" hits in 4 decades.  Which may or may not have been true.  I think the dance hits then of 2001/2 count for me, (relevant, thus, for 5 decades??) but not for the record books.  Amazing if she scores no.1 in 2011/12.  Hasn't she gotten her Kennedy Award yet, or is she far too big for that.  Mount Rushmore, me thinks.

Added:  I am corrected! 
http://kearth101.radio.com/2011/01/19/six-consecutive-decades-of-no-1-hits-from-cher/

Cher has added another record to her already long list of accolades during her six-decade career. This week, the Diva tops the Billboard Dance/Club Play Songs chart with her latest single “You Haven’t Seen the Last of Me,” making her the only act in music to score a No.1 hit for six decades in a row.

We obviously will never see the last of the extraordinary Cher, who still keeps on producing hit after hit and reinventing herself to stay on top of her game year after year. How many other acts can say the same? Check out the past six decades of Cher’s No.1 hits on the Billboard charts starting with the song launched her career with “I Got You, Babe.”

Cher top the Billboard charts for the first time on Aug. 14, 1965 with “I Got You, Babe” as part of Sonny & Cher. The song reigned on top for three weeks on the Hot 100 Singles chart.

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« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2011, 06:10:00 PM »
And if it is, finally, Mt. Rushmore, will they put the end of career face or the 70's face?
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« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2011, 07:41:14 PM »
2000-2009 - Did Cher have a hit? Up to 2000 I seem to remember she was the longest success in Pop?  
I'd certainly give any new disc a listen, hoping for the best.  

I read or heard somewhere recently that Barbra Streisand is the only person (or female) to have had a number one album (or single?) in each of the past 5 decades. Not sure how accurate that is but just putting it out there, FYI. Cher's been around longer than Barbra or at least as long. Cher's early hits would have been with Sonny so maybe that's why Barbra has that record.
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« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2011, 08:12:06 PM »
what is the definition of a "hit"?
Top 10? Top 40? Top 100?
On what chart does it qualify to be a "hit"?

There is no need to split hairs, Michael.  Facts are facts.  This has some meaning to me, as I worked for a number of years as a buyer for a record chain some time ago.

A "hit" by definition is a song or an album that manages to move a significant number of units.  In our country this has been measured for over 60 years by Billboard magazine.  Until 1991 it was based on sales reported by record stores combined with Radio AirPlay points; after 1991 the charts started using "real", more accurate, and immediate data using Nielsen Soundscan and AirPlay monitored by BDS.  In case it needs to be known, our first number one single using the new methodology was "Set Adrift on Memory Bliss" by P.M. Dawn.  In the UK the charts are based solely on physical sales, making it somewhat more representative of what the public is actually interested in buying, not on what radio is playing to death.  

Yes, the dance charts exist, but they're reflective of one (very minute) segment of society at large. They're based on what a certain number of DJs out there report to the magazine.  So, if a commercially released single makes it to number 5 on the Club Play charts, but barely scratches the surface of the "Pop" charts by reaching #85 this is actually deemed a commercial flop, or a minor hit by those who want to be kind.

I don't dislike Cher, but the reality remains that her last real "hit" in the States was the significantly large "Believe".  In the UK she managed four additional hits (as in items that actually moved commercial units), the last of them being "The Music Is No Good Without You" in 2001.
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« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2011, 08:31:42 PM »
There is no need to split hairs, Michael.  
you split the hair first :D defining Mecch's "hit" question as only hits in the top 10 or whatever "significant number of units" moved is your definition of a "hit". I was simply pointing out that it's not like Cher didn't produce nothing in nearly the decade of 2000-2009, as she had several dance chart "hits", an adult chart "hit", and a "hit" song in the BB top 100.

However, I do concede what seems to be your point that she had no top 10 "hit" on the BB chart in that time period.
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« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2011, 08:34:18 PM »
Geez, I could use a hit right now.

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« Reply #70 on: September 09, 2011, 08:43:41 PM »
I was simply pointing out that it's not like Cher didn't produce nothing in nearly the decade of 2000-2009, as she had several dance chart "hits"

Just because 10 or 15 poppered up queens from coast to coast twirled to these songs on a dance floor that does not define them as hits in the strict sense of the word.   That's like saying that oooh, Paris Hilton's album was a lak a huge success coz it hit #24 in Indonesia.  A hit is a hit, not mah definition.  Let me add a smiley face so that you know I ain't mad atcha  ;)


Geez, I could use a hit right now.


Nah, you just wanna hit "it" with one of them Latina twinks that were crusing you while jogging the other day.

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« Reply #71 on: September 09, 2011, 09:11:56 PM »
I read or heard somewhere recently that Barbra Streisand is the only person (or female) to have had a number one album (or single?) in each of the past 5 decades. Not sure how accurate that is but just putting it out there, FYI. Cher's been around longer than Barbra or at least as long. Cher's early hits would have been with Sonny so maybe that's why Barbra has that record.


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Barbra Streisand is the first and only solo artist to put an album in the top five on The Billboard 200 in six different decades. She accomplished this feat as What Matters Most: Barbra Sings The Lyrics Of Alan and Marilyn Bergman entered the charts at #4 during the week ending 28th August, 2011.  The Rolling Stones have scored at least one album in the top five in each of the last six decades, but their only album to chart in this current decade was a reissue of their 1972 Exile On Main St. Streaisand has achieved her record with newly recorded material.

Streisand is the only solo artist who has had a #1 album in each of the last five decades, from the 1960s to the 2000s.


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« Reply #72 on: September 09, 2011, 10:25:22 PM »
Poppered up disco queens?  Geez, how long has it been since you were in a club.
I never ever saw anyone in all my years of clubbing sniffing poppers on the dance floor.

Barbra didn't become a "pop star" until the Stoney End, n'est-ce pas? Before that she was a "popular singer"?

As for Cher and club music.  Hmm, I have heard drag queens doing Cher or lipsynching Cher. The only discos I ever heard a newly produced Cher tune were for grown up straight people in Monte Carlo. Believe, in fact.  Sometimes you'd hear Take Me Home in the East Village.  That Larry Levan Live from 1979 was a bootleg tape we all loved in the 80s because in fact we hadn't been clubbers in the 70's.  We thought poppers on the dance floor was something from pre-historic times (e.g. a decade before  ::)

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« Reply #73 on: September 09, 2011, 10:31:09 PM »
Poppered up disco queens?  Geez, how long has it been since you were in a club.
I never ever saw anyone in all my years of clubbing sniffing poppers on the dance floor.

1982.  Pass the Ethyl!

Of course they're not sniffing poppahz, silly.  More like high on K, Tina, or X.  Whatever tickles their pickle.
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« Reply #74 on: September 09, 2011, 10:33:38 PM »
I often saw poppers sniffing in the 80's, even early 90's -- but only outside of NYC. Hell, I even did ethyl by the pool at the Shelbourne at WMC 2002.

So tell me meech, are you still hoppin' on the dance floor at your age? Brave of you, indeed.
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« Reply #75 on: September 09, 2011, 10:39:35 PM »
Circa 2003. Happy Hour at OCH, we would do whippits (and coke) sitting at the bar.



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« Reply #76 on: September 09, 2011, 10:42:31 PM »
Circa 2003. Happy Hour at OCH, we would do whippits (and coke) sitting at the bar.



Coke? Now that is like so 80s.
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« Reply #77 on: September 09, 2011, 10:44:40 PM »
Coke? Now that is like so 80s.

Nonsense -- v. popular in NYC right now!
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« Reply #78 on: September 09, 2011, 10:46:22 PM »
That Larry Levan Live from 1979 was a bootleg tape we all loved in the 80s because in fact we hadn't been clubbers in the 70's. 

He DJ'd until 1987 at the Garage -- I thought you lived in NYC at that time.
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« Reply #79 on: September 09, 2011, 11:12:17 PM »
Sure, cause I have friends of different ages now and here in Switzerland even middle age trendoids do go out.  
But I like live music and latin and african clubs too, and those clubs are filled with people of all ages.
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« Reply #80 on: September 09, 2011, 11:17:30 PM »
I rarely went to the Garage nor later Roxy (90s) though I was OK with Robots.

For the 80's, I would say offhand, the clubs that gave me miscellaneous thrills were Mudd, Max's, CBGBs, Danceteria, Peppermint Lounge, Area, Roxy (when it was hip hop), early Limelight, Tunnel, Palladium, The World, Boy Bar, Pyramid, Nell's, Time Square dives, Susanne Bartsch venues, etc.  We wanted to be eclectic and progressive and go to big or trendy clubs, but basically the best solutions were usually the trashiest and least expensive.

I've always liked Hamburg for its trashy small dives and Paris has had its moments for this as well.

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« Reply #81 on: September 10, 2011, 12:18:08 PM »
And if it is, finally, Mt. Rushmore, will they put the end of career face or the 70's face?

They can always touch it up later like she has

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« Reply #82 on: September 10, 2011, 05:05:04 PM »
They can always touch it up later like she has

That is so perfect!
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« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2011, 12:53:47 PM »
I like the way she hedges her cred - since the film is a dud she's talking about her new album. 
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« Reply #87 on: September 13, 2011, 05:58:01 AM »
I watched some of his earlier videos. He has stepped up his act considerably and he often nails a Cher impersonation, and gets Madonna every now and then too.
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