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Author Topic: HIV in tears despite effective therapy  (Read 8133 times)

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Offline xman

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HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« on: August 30, 2011, 01:55:48 PM »
HIV found in tears despite effective therapy according to a recent study. Viral load were quite high raging from 5,181 ± 7,283 copies/ml in the 16 subjects with undetectable viral load in plasma. This findings suggests that tear glands could act as a reservoir for HIV in presence of HAART and that tears are theoretically infectious.

http://www.hiv-reservoir.net/index.php/Latest-News-on-HIV-Reservoirs-Eradication/hiv-in-tears-despite-art.html
« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 02:03:33 PM by xman »
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Offline emeraldize

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 04:57:38 PM »
"After informed consent, clinical nurse specialists and psychologist influenced patients mood to induce burst into tears."

I wonder if they were successful in every instance of provoking someone to the point of crying.

To think my HIV tadpoles are possibly swimming in the deep end of my tear pools.

Well, it nearly makes me lachrymose just imagining their little laps, perhaps a few synchronized moves.


No disrespect to xman or the science, just need a goof-off break here.

Offline leatherman

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 04:59:24 PM »
No disrespect to xman or the science, just need a goof-off break here.
oh great! now we can't even cry about teh aids. ::)
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Offline monarc

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 05:43:59 PM »
This is just sad...  :'(

Offline mecch

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 07:13:12 PM »
Wow I am ignorant of this but, is this much more than can be found in the sperm of undetectable men?
Its depressing and scary.
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Offline John2038

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 07:37:04 PM »
The amount of HIV in tears cannot trigger an HIV infection in another person, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), unless they have blood mixed in them and you have significant and direct contact with them. Same apply to feces, nasal secretions, sputum, sweat, tears, urine, and vomitus.
This is  known since long time.

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 08:13:40 PM »
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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 08:35:32 PM »
When I read the title of this thread I thought xman had started therapy and was crying about it despite it being effective.

Goes to show how fried my mind is after sitting in front of a 'puter all day.

Em, you are the 2nd person ever to use the word lachrymose in these threads!
« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 08:37:14 PM by Inchlingblue »

Offline LM

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 09:32:30 PM »
I wonder how tears could be infectious...

Well, I guess that kissing someone's tears away just turned deadly.

Offline spacebarsux

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 01:10:56 AM »
Great, another reason to  :'(
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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2011, 07:47:23 AM »
I wonder how tears could be infectious...

Well, I guess that kissing someone's tears away just turned deadly.

Nope, not even. Saliva contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. Also, hiv can only infect a very few, very specific cell types, cells that are not found in abundance in your mouth.

Being infected by tears is even less likely that you finding mommy kissing Santa Clause underneath the mistletoe. Even if Santa is actually your fat uncle in a Santa suit. Particularly if Santa is the Real Thing. Just like hiv infection through tears, the Real Thing doesn't exist.

Well, maybe only in the minds of OCD type WWs. And I can't wait until they start stumbling across this thread. ::)
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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2011, 06:24:32 PM »
Sorry, but it is information..

Pre-chewed food may pose HIV threat to infants
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/30/us-prechewed-food-hiv-idUSTRE77T57620110830

Offline Rev. Moon

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2011, 06:32:22 PM »
Sorry, but it is information..

Pre-chewed food may pose HIV threat to infants
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/30/us-prechewed-food-hiv-idUSTRE77T57620110830

News as old as GRID.

This whole "I got mah AIDS from a crying queen" is going to become the excuse du jour.  It even has an immaculate, Mary Magadalene ring to it.  Count on it.
"I have tried hard--but life is difficult, and I am a very useless person. I can hardly be said to have an independent existence. I was just a screw or a cog in the great machine I called life, and when I dropped out of it I found I was of no use anywhere else."

Offline hope_for_a_cure

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2011, 06:38:35 PM »
News as old as GRID.

This whole "I got mah AIDS from a crying queen" is going to become the excuse du jour.  It even has an immaculate, Mary Magadalene ring to it.  Count on it.

I was just living up to my nickname, "Helium Heels", when I got mine. 

Offline leatherman

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2011, 07:00:07 PM »
"Helium Heels"
ROFLMAO :D
"change comes from within"

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Offline emeraldize

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2011, 07:38:13 PM »
When I read the title of this thread I thought xman had started therapy and was crying about it despite it being effective.

Goes to show how fried my mind is after sitting in front of a 'puter all day.

Em, you are the 2nd person ever to use the word lachrymose in these threads!
  Yep, that's pretty fried alright. So, Inchie, are you the first or shall I go to 'search mode'. Reading this thread just makes you wanna have a shot glass of tears, doesn't it? Just a devil-may-care snort of saline with a chaser of eyelash soup.

Offline LM

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2011, 08:08:11 PM »
Nope, not even. Saliva contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. Also, hiv can only infect a very few, very specific cell types, cells that are not found in abundance in your mouth.

Being infected by tears is even less likely that you finding mommy kissing Santa Clause underneath the mistletoe. Even if Santa is actually your fat uncle in a Santa suit. Particularly if Santa is the Real Thing. Just like hiv infection through tears, the Real Thing doesn't exist.

Well, maybe only in the minds of OCD type WWs. And I can't wait until they start stumbling across this thread. ::)

I know, I know, I was joking.  ;D

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2011, 03:41:43 AM »
  Yep, that's pretty fried alright. So, Inchie, are you the first or shall I go to 'search mode'. Reading this thread just makes you wanna have a shot glass of tears, doesn't it? Just a devil-may-care snort of saline with a chaser of eyelash soup.

I bottle the tears of the elderly for later consuption right after I finish my weekly puppy drownings.  It's how I stay immortal.

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Re: HIV in tears despite effective therapy
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2011, 07:25:36 AM »
Sorry, but it is information..

Pre-chewed food may pose HIV threat to infants
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/30/us-prechewed-food-hiv-idUSTRE77T57620110830

Go away, John. That is a totally different kettle of fish. ::)

The next time we get someone in Am I freaking out over a kiss, can I send them your email address so YOU can hold their hand through all the unnecessary testing they'll do?
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