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Offline Valmont

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First results
« on: July 18, 2011, 04:08:21 PM »
Hi all...

Ive just received my first blood analyses results and I dont know what to think...

CD4 - 503
VL - 189.000
Hepatitis C - Negative


Well, I feel more relax than last days, I dont think this is so bad (particularly CD4), but VL is quite high, no?

My doc told me a few weeks ago that only with the second result (in 6 months more), we will take any decision about meds and so on...

Do you think VL can decrease naturally, particularly if I would be just infected a few months ago?

What do you think about that?
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

Offline metekrop

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Re: First results
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 04:15:51 PM »
No way.  You need to start your meds as quickly as possible.
Diag on Dec 8, 2000, CD 440 VL 44K, No Meds
Dec/08 - Feb/09 CD< 50 & VL >500k hosp'z.
St. Atripla - July/09 CD 179, VL 197k
Oct/09 CD 300 VL UD Chol 267
Mar/10 CD 468 UD, Ch 220
Aug/10 CD 460 UD, Ch 195
Dec/10 CD 492 UD, Ch 172
Mar/11 CD 636 UD, Ch 201
Aug/11 CD 530 UD, Ch 98
Jan/12 cd 616 UD, ch 189
Jul/12 CD 640 UD, Ch ?
Dec/12 CD 669 Ud, Ch 125
May/7 CD711 Ud, Ch?
Nov/ 22 663 UD, Ch,
April 17 CD 797, UD

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: First results
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 04:22:46 PM »
Hi all...

Ive just received my first blood analyses results and I dont know what to think...

CD4 - 503
VL - 189.000
Hepatitis C - Negative


Well, I feel more relax than last days, I dont think this is so bad (particularly CD4), but VL is quite high, no?

My doc told me a few weeks ago that only with the second result (in 6 months more), we will take any decision about meds and so on...

Do you think VL can decrease naturally, particularly if I would be just infected a few months ago?

What do you think about that?

Your doctor is right. Understanding your test results is all about understanding trends over time, so a single set of numbers doesn't really mean a lot. You need another set to get any meaningful information. 6 months would seem a little bit distant, I'd prefer another set in at least 3 months.

Did your doctor tell you your CD4 percentage?

MtD

Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: First results
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 05:47:11 PM »
...
Do you think VL can decrease naturally, particularly if I would be just infected a few months ago?

What do you think about that?

Yes -- the typical pattern is for viral load to go way up after seroconversion and then natually decrease.  Then, after a number of years it starts to rise again.

So, if you were recently infected it would be natural for your viral load to fall back down over the next few months.

Not everyone is typical, but you have time to monitor and get a trend.

Be well
A
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%

Offline Valmont

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Re: First results
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2011, 09:49:57 AM »
Thank you all.  No, I dont have any more results, here for cost reason they only do CD4 and VL (and Im lucky the analyse equipments are working...), so no % and no CD8 and so on...
And also for cost reasons, next tests will be in 6 months more...  Ill meet my doc only next week...

I believe I could have been infected for just 4 months (there is no way it could have happened before, I think...), but in another way, last year Ive been incommunly ill many times (worst was a Mononucleosis...)

Im worried about that because Im applying to a permanent visa in Canada and I need to demostrate a good health and that I wont be "costy" for their health system...


Do you think that numbers can really appears in a new contamination?  VL seems me very very high in regard with what I could have seen and maby Ive been contaminated for much time that I thought...


I think I cannot do anything else than waiting for a new result in some months and keeping positive mind...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: First results
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2011, 09:55:22 AM »
Thank you all.  No, I dont have any more results, here for cost reason they only do CD4 and VL (and Im lucky the analyse equipments are working...), so no % and no CD8 and so on...
And also for cost reasons, next tests will be in 6 months more...  Ill meet my doc only next week...

I believe I could have been infected for just 4 months (there is no way it could have happened before, I think...), but in another way, last year Ive been incommunly ill many times (worst was a Mononucleosis...)

Im worried about that because Im applying to a permanent visa in Canada and I need to demostrate a good health and that I wont be "costy" for their health system...


Do you think that numbers can really appears in a new contamination?  VL seems me very very high in regard with what I could have seen and maby Ive been contaminated for much time that I thought...


I think I cannot do anything else than waiting for a new result in some months and keeping positive mind...

Val,

Your numbers are fine.

If testing in 6 months is all you have to hand, then that will be fine too. :)

You might want to ask your doctor for your CD4 % because that's the number they use to determine your absolute count.

Srsly, if they know you have 503 CD4 cells, they know your percentage. And the percentage is a stable number, unlike that crazy absolute value.

MtD

Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: First results
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 10:11:55 AM »
Do you think that numbers can really appears in a new contamination?  VL seems me very very high in regard with what I could have seen and maby Ive been contaminated for much time that I thought...


I think I cannot do anything else than waiting for a new result in some months and keeping positive mind...

It really can be a high viral load at first and then it declines for a long time.  Here's a graph of the viral load and tcell counts for a "typical" individual.
 

And, as the esteemed Matty says, ask them again for your percentage -- they should have it as part of your results -- it is calculated as part of the process of determining your tcell counts.

Be well
A
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: First results
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2011, 10:19:07 AM »
It really can be a high viral load at first and then it declines for a long time.  Here's a graph of the viral load and tcell counts for a "typical" individual.
 

And, as the esteemed Matty says, ask them again for your percentage -- they should have it as part of your results -- it is calculated as part of the process of determining your tcell counts.

Be well
A


D00d,

You really need a boyfriend.

Or at least someone who will give you one up the chutney on a semi-regular basis.

MtD

Offline Valmont

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Re: First results
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 11:03:18 AM »
Well thanks a lot for the info, very usefull.  I saw this graphic in the past, but without numbers, I did not know that VL increase so much in the first weeks. 

About my %, there is no information on my lab report, so my doc wont have some more too... 

Can you explain me (or putting a link) about % and their interpretation.  Is teh proportion between CD4/CD8, right?

I bet next month my VL should decrease and CD4 increase a little... (I hope...)
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: First results
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2011, 11:08:42 AM »
Well thanks a lot for the info, very usefull.  I saw this graphic in the past, but without numbers, I did not know that VL increase so much in the first weeks. 

About my %, there is no information on my lab report, so my doc wont have some more too... 

Can you explain me (or putting a link) about % and their interpretation.  Is teh proportion between CD4/CD8, right?

I bet next month my VL should decrease and CD4 increase a little... (I hope...)

No, that's the ratio. Which is useful, sorta.

The CD4 % is pretty much what it claims to be. A reliable count of your CD4 cells as a percentage of your overall lymphocyte count.

So whilst your CD4 count might seem to fluctuate wildly (really it can go nuts) the percentage is generally quite reserved.

And that makes it a trustworthy indicator of your immune system function/status/whatthefuckever.

MtD

Offline Valmont

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Re: First results
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2011, 11:16:18 AM »
Ok Matt, thanks again...  Shit, so strange...  There must have a reason why this not appears on my lab results (it can be expensive?   I dont believe...)
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: First results
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2011, 11:20:28 AM »
Ok Matt, thanks again...  Shit, so strange...  There must have a reason why this not appears on my lab results (it can be expensive?   I dont believe...)

Try this link: http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/TCellTest_4727.shtml

I know it seems odd, but if your doctor knows your absolute CD4 count he/she should know your percentage.

MtD

Offline Valmont

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Re: First results
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2011, 11:29:01 AM »
Great and well explained...

My lab result is muuuuuuuuuch more simple that this, only two numbers...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: First results
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2011, 11:35:47 AM »
Great and well explained...

My lab result is muuuuuuuuuch more simple that this, only two numbers...

If you're not able to find out your percentage (and let's face it, shit happens) your absolute CD4 count is still an excellent yardstick.

Above 500? Meds not required.

Below 500 but above 350? Meds not required but you can start them if that's what floats your boat.

Below 350? Start meds. Really.

The latest studies show that there's really no difference between starting meds at 500 and 350.

Or so I'm told.

MtD

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Re: First results
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 01:03:48 PM »
D00d,

You really need a boyfriend.

Or at least someone who will give you one up the chutney on a semi-regular basis.

MtD

Sounds like we have a volunteer.

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: First results
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2011, 01:29:12 PM »
Sounds like we have a volunteer.

Well ok, but only if Mooch lends me some of his Cialis.

I'm sure he has plenty to spare. :)

MtD

Offline Assurbanipal

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Re: First results
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2011, 01:50:02 PM »
Sounds like we have a volunteer.

Nah, he's just showing off his psychic powers.
5/06 VL 1M+, CD4 22, 5% , pneumonia, thrush -- O2 support 2 months, 6/06 +Kaletra/Truvada
9/06 VL 3959 CD4 297 13.5% 12/06 VL <400 CD4 350 15.2% +Pravachol
2007 VL<400, 70, 50 CD4 408-729 16.0% -19.7%
2008 VL UD CD4 468 - 538 16.7% - 24.6% Osteoporosis 11/08 doubled Pravachol, +Calcium/D
02/09 VL 100 CD4 616 23.7% 03/09 VL 130 5/09 VL 100 CD4 540 28.4% +Actonel (osteoporosis) 7/09 VL 130
8/09  new regimen Isentress/Epzicom 9/09 VL UD CD4 621 32.7% 11/09 VL UD CD4 607 26.4% swap Isentress for Prezista/Norvir 12/09 (liver and muscle issues) VL 50
2010 VL UD CD4 573-680 26.1% - 30.9% 12/10 VL 20
2011 VL UD-20 CD4 568-673 24.7%-30.6%
2012 VL UD swap Prezista/Norvir for Reyataz drop statin CD4 768-828 26.7%-30.7%

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: First results
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2011, 02:06:56 PM »
Nah, he's just showing off his psychic powers.

So these Cialis, they're suppositories, yes?

Otherwise I've made an awful mess.  :-\

MtD

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Re: First results
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2011, 03:07:59 PM »
Hi Valmont,

I think you're in Ecuador (correct?). Here in India also, the Govt hospitals do not give you detailed lab work - just the CD4 count (not even VL count!) and they also only seem to monitor patients every 6 months. (I think its a poor country thing maybe lol)

I went to a private lab (which unlike the Govt Hospital was NOT free) and got my detailed lab work done. It cost a bit more, but its your health and so it is definitely worth it to spend a bit more.

I am sure you could do something similar.
Infected-  2005 or early 2006; Diagnosed- Jan 28th, 2011; Feb '11- CD4 754 @34%, VL- 39K; July '11- CD4 907@26%,  VL-81K; Feb '12- CD4 713 @31%, VL- 41K, Nov '12- CD4- 827@31%

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Re: First results
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2011, 03:23:02 PM »
To get a CD4 count you have to calculate the CD4%, so it must be floating around somewhere, maybe it's just not passed on fro the lab.

What Matty said on counts is good.

A % is really useful to compare to a count to see if they are out of line eg high count/low % and vice versa. If you have just one measurement (% or count), it will do good enough.

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Offline Valmont

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Re: First results
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2011, 08:09:55 PM »
Yes, Im in Ecuador...  Well, lets see what doc will say.  I know the medic that signed lab report, maybe he can help me with %...

About other kind of analyses (very expensive here) I prefer to wait a little, I prefer keeping my money for better medecines in the case I ll have to take some, than to analyses...

I received news from the doc that tell me we should wait 3 to 6 months to a second examen.
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

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Re: First results
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2011, 08:50:17 AM »
When first infected your counts go skyhigh but without meds you will just get worse. Talk to your doctor and if he says its time than listen to him. We are so fortunate to have access to drugs. Not like in Africa where they would give there right arm for meds.

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Re: First results
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2011, 08:53:56 AM »
Thank you all.  No, I dont have any more results, here for cost reason they only do CD4 and VL (and Im lucky the analyse equipments are working...), so no % and no CD8 and so on...
And also for cost reasons, next tests will be in 6 months more...  Ill meet my doc only next week...

I believe I could have been infected for just 4 months (there is no way it could have happened before, I think...), but in another way, last year Ive been incommunly ill many times (worst was a Mononucleosis...)

Im worried about that because Im applying to a permanent visa in Canada and I need to demostrate a good health and that I wont be "costy" for their health system...
I live in Canada and if you can move to Ontario our health care is free. You go on disability. Takes a month to get it. They cover ALL drugs. So moving here is a great choice to make. Its also a great place to live. Good luck getting moved here.

Do you think that numbers can really appears in a new contamination?  VL seems me very very high in regard with what I could have seen and maby Ive been contaminated for much time that I thought...


I think I cannot do anything else than waiting for a new result in some months and keeping positive mind...

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Re: First results
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2011, 11:52:44 PM »
[quote author=BJS2011

 I live in Canada and if you can move to Ontario our health care is free. You go on disability. Takes a month to get it. They cover ALL drugs. So moving here is a great choice to make. Its also a great place to live. Good luck getting moved here.

]

[/quote]

The matter is to obtain the visa...  Particularly, there are some health requerements to enter in Canada as a permanent resident...  What is evaluated is the postulent health cost for Canada system.  It will always be better for me (or anyone that applies) in that case not to receive treatment...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

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Re: First results
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2011, 10:14:52 AM »
When first infected your counts go skyhigh but without meds you will just get worse.

That's not entirely correct. While it's true that during initial infection (say 0-6 months, possibly a few months longer) the VL can be very high, it will come down on it's own for the majority of people. I've been poz for fourteen years and I'm still not on meds and my VL has remained low (between 7,000ish and 35,000ish). I have no idea what it was in the first few months, but I'd bet my house it was sky-high.

It's also possible that your CD4 count could go up. As others have mentioned, it would be useful to know your CD4% and worth tracking it down.
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Re: First results
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2011, 12:55:17 PM »
Thank you Ann...  About my CD% no way I can get them from the lab, I did not even understand why (the reason are not very clear) but they dont give this result.  I will talk about that to my doc soon...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

Offline Valmont

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Re: First results
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2011, 03:12:45 PM »
I have some other results, from another lab...

Linfocitos %: 47,6% I dont believe it is the same than CD4%, right? Anyway, as my Leucocitos are in the normal range, I should think that every thing is going right, or not?...

Really, last blood examens (hematology) seems me really good, everything is in normal range and cholesterol and glicemia have never been so low (but normal ...)...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

Offline Veritee

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Re: First results
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2011, 10:15:52 PM »
Your not on meds Ann - after more than 1
4 years!!!!!

You are so very lucky. So envy you
I found out i was Poz and in less than 2 months I, and my husband whose CD4 count was found to be 8, and mine less than 150
We were on meds  - Atripla


And I assure you that while it is not possible to be absolutely sure I am pretty certain my husband acquired HIV in 2003 and I shortly after and we first noticed real symptoms in November 2005- thrush , diarrhoea , repeated unexplained infections  and diagnosed for certain in Feb 2007.

By which time my husband had PCP and was close to death and while with treatment and HAART he did recover ( although he now has cancer and I have Avascula Necrosis and due ti have my wrist fused i=on the 28th August , both of which could be due to HIV , but who knows??)

All I know is if you are 14 years into being HIV Poz .........and not had any great health consequences then that seems wonderful to me .

Maybe its our age - now 58  and 59, 55 -56 when diagnosed probably 50 - 51 when we acquired HIV - but I assure you that the graph above was not so for us >>Not at all.

We had less than 3 years form infection  before we both began to get ill.

Maybe its our age = both in our 50s when we acquired HIV , or someting else??
Bu we did not have the years that some have.
It has all been such  a shock. To find out you both have HIV, then shortly afterwards to have to start on meds
And everythign at once .
But if my CD4 count  had been above 350 I woudl not have worried . At this count you have time .

We ddi not have any time

Love to you

Veritee
I have a blog here, please do not judge me on what I say here- I need to offload and this is where I do it: http://hiv-and-us.blogspot.com/

Offline Valmont

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Re: First results
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2011, 01:36:18 PM »
Ive been to my doc today, everythings very good, all my analyzes and results are ok...  Doc thinks my VL is from a recent infection and will decrease...  As Ive never smoked, made a lot of sport and eaten heathly, avoided alcohol, this does not means many changes or sacrifices in my daylife.

Ill have to wait for lab analizes on december and next meeting on January, happy Christmas...

These are very very good news for me, and make me feel even better...  For now, I dont want to think a lot about that, dont want to tell to more people or family.

Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

 


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