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Offline thunter34

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Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« on: July 05, 2011, 02:30:14 PM »
WTF?  I am stunned.  Her parents left the courtroom without even going over to see her after the verdict was read. 

Astonishing.  No murder charge, no child abuse, no manslaughter.  Nada.

All she faces is "lying to cops".  She already has 3 years of jail time under her belt for those.

Wow.
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2011, 02:46:31 PM »
My poor mother has been following this case way too closely.  She is upset right now.  We just came back from town and she was sitting there almost distraught and I expected some horrible news like my granny passed or something.  She was constantly trying to update me on every detail and I just didn't care enough. 

Oh yeah, wonder how hopey feels?  He's been an avid follower too.

for their sakes, we can just hope for another high profile murder case soon.

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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2011, 02:55:52 PM »
I don't even have any idea what this trial is about or who this person is.
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2011, 03:26:26 PM »
I don't even have any idea what this trial is about or who this person is.

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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2011, 03:33:10 PM »
= living under rock.

No, I just change the channel when I see drivel like that. I was waiting last week to see the Duchess of Cambridge come off the plane in Canada and all they kept showing was this dumb trial so I turned the sound down low.

I never watched O.J.'s trial either!
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 03:36:59 PM »
Anyone who posts Countess Luann should use care bandying the word "drivel".

 :P

I appreciate your sentiment.  I just happened upon this one since before it even was national news (which was almost imediate).

This was one of the most outrageous defense arguments I've ever heard...but it worked.
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2011, 04:48:58 PM »
The jury must have been watching a different trial than the one I watched....

a mountain of evidence....no other 'suspects' or even any other plausible death theories....yet she walks free.

Lots of loving gay couples cannot adopt kids, but this bitch can kill hers and walk scot free....  What is wrong with this picture?
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2011, 06:17:55 PM »
If it could happen anywhere it would have to be here in Florida -
we can't get elections right, verdicts right, ADAP right

'if it wasn't for the ocean and beautiful weather there really would be no reason to live here -

sickening that she got off scott free - and absolutely no one accountable for the death of a little child....

The only part I followed was the announcement of the verdict - but it was hard to avoid hearing at least something about it everyday living down here.

She is one sick girl - and the lawyers who got her off should be ashamed of themselves too.  No victory in getting a murderer - a child murderer off the hook.
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2011, 06:19:31 PM »
I don't believe that the father covered up for an accidental drowning.  I don't believe the father abused her.
But hell, how do we know.

The prosecution didn't make the case.  

I think the parents did what they announced a few weeks ago they wanted to do - spare their daughter -- by making a big confusing mess -- of who did what when.

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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 06:25:05 PM »
Oh yeah, wonder how hopey feels?  He's been an avid follower too.

I had to take an extra xanax (aka Zannie the nanny) when I saw this earlier today.  The peach preserves will just have to wait till tomorrow or Thursday.... just cant pull myself together to make them right now.  Where is my Patron XO Cafe?  

edited to add:  Lee baby, if you are reading this, please get the 'f' out of there and come up to SC for a little visit.  I will make you forget all about those whacked out family members you have been surrounded with for the past few years. 
« Last Edit: July 05, 2011, 06:27:11 PM by hope_for_a_cure »

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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2011, 06:27:44 PM »
I don't even have any idea what this trial is about or who this person is.

I confess I wiki'd "Casey Anthony" last week because I could not view the news websites without that name as a headline. I still don't fully understand the facination with this case compared to all the different child murders that come around. The case of the woman who microwaved her baby seems more shocking.

I assume this video is appropriate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eykLf8b_Vk&feature=fvst
« Last Edit: July 05, 2011, 06:35:56 PM by GSOgymrat »

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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2011, 06:42:52 PM »
I think the fascination was that this accused baby killer supposedly did it from some sort of narcissistic pathology in which she wanted to live the fast fun life of a young hot babe, and the babY was in the way.  That was the trope.  It didn't shake out too well for the prosecution.  But she has been mighty creepy all along.
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2011, 06:46:20 PM »
Its one thing to sit on a jury ( I have ) and to view a trial like this on TV with all the commentary that comes with it . I served on a civil case where we the jury were criticized for our decision but in my heart I know if anyone had been instructed as we had by the judge and heard the evidence were heard they would have been unanimous with the same verdict as we reached so my conscious is clear .

If I had been on that jury I probably would have called it the same way . If the state is going to go for the death penalty then they better have a better case than circumstantial evidence before they can expect a vote to put some one to death .  

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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2011, 06:49:56 PM »
I was a juror on a murder trial connected to drugs and gangs in Brooklyn.  We set the hoodlum free. No convincing case was made and though he seemed like a useless character, he was merely the one the Police caught and charged.  There were multiple weapons at the crime scene and everyone had 2-3 colourful alaises.   Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2011, 07:31:18 PM »
the claim is that this is the first 'big trial' in the age of 'social media'.   So what does that mean?  Seems to me like the jury needed to have seen a video of her committing the crime before they could connect the dots.

I think some juries confuse "reasonable doubt" with "the shadow of any possible doubt".    Everyone there, including those defense attorneys, knew that she killed that child.   They might not have had an exact cause of death....but as Dr. G stated, it was definitely HOMICIDE.
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2011, 07:39:42 PM »
I had to take an extra xanax (aka Zannie the nanny) when I saw this earlier today.  The peach preserves will just have to wait till tomorrow or Thursday.... just cant pull myself together to make them right now.  Where is my Patron XO Cafe?  

edited to add:  Lee baby, if you are reading this, please get the 'f' out of there and come up to SC for a little visit.  I will make you forget all about those whacked out family members you have been surrounded with for the past few years. 

Aren't you worried Lee Lee might molest you?
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2011, 08:23:13 PM »
We've been "OJ'd" again.

I'm shocked. I'm appalled. However under the laws of the greatest nation on Earth she was aquitted by a jury of her peers...and I have to respect that. albeit begrudingly.

But the question I have is...Given that she will  be walking out of the courthouse Thursday, Does she just waltz back into the Anthony home? How does she look her father in the face after ruining his life and throwing him under the bus? What will they say to her? Clearly they are going to ask what really happened to Caylee. What I wouldn't give to be a fly on that wall.

SO, I guess in the end the only person to walk away with any real time (6 days) in this case is the hottie who flipped off the prosecutor in open court. To whit:


-W

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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2011, 09:33:03 PM »
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 10:24:54 PM »
If she gets really drunk and confesses later is it double jeopardy?
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2011, 10:26:30 PM »
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2011, 10:27:53 PM »
If she gets really drunk and confesses later is it double jeopardy?


She can walk out of court Thursday turn to the Cameras and say "I murdered my Girl and threw her in a swamp" and no one could do anything. They cannot retry her or even arrest her again if she confesses.
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2011, 10:58:24 PM »
The ONLY possible re-course, and it's a long shot, would be a federal civil rights violation. Under Separate Sovereigns, she could, possibly face a federal charge although without reading more into it, I would not know where to begin.  :'(
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2011, 12:09:01 AM »


SO, I guess in the end the only person to walk away with any real time (6 days) in this case is the hottie who flipped off the prosecutor in open court. To whit:


-W


LOL ,  what was that all about...  Must have had a bet going with some of his TGIF workers :

Flipping the bird;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlaDS8uxJI


And 6 days in jail:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZldc6A6zro&feature=related



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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2011, 12:11:41 AM »
She can walk out of court Thursday turn to the Cameras and say "I murdered my Girl and threw her in a swamp" and no one could do anything.



Of course, that may ruin her chances of working in that day care center job she always wanted...  ::)
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2011, 02:24:13 AM »
Regardless of what the case is, she's now a social pariah because whether she did or did not do it everyone believes that she did.  "Hi my name is Casey Anthony and I'd like to apply for a job".  I'm assuming her family will basically disown her, but I didn't follow the case at all.  I have to believe that the burden of proof was not met for the jury to reach a unanimous decision of not guilty.  Love it or hate it that is the way out justice system works.

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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2011, 07:41:00 AM »
  Love it or hate it that is the way out justice system works.

Well, thank you for that civics lessons......

She is not going to need to apply for any jobs -- she is going to cash in on this whole sordid affair.  I expect a book out in time for the Christmas shopping season and a made-for-TV movie by the fall sweeps season.

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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2011, 07:44:42 AM »
Well, thank you for that civics lessons......

She is not going to need to apply for any jobs -- she is going to cash in on this whole sordid affair.  I expect a book out in time for the Christmas shopping season and a made-for-TV movie by the fall sweeps season.

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You're welcome, most people apparently need to be informed of it because what I've seen post verdict has people shrieking like banshees about the decision the jury came to (unanimously I repeat).

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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2011, 07:47:19 AM »
She is not going to need to apply for any jobs -- she is going to cash in on this whole sordid affair.  I expect a book out in time for the Christmas shopping season and a made-for-TV movie by the fall sweeps season.

M

I agree.  I can also see her doing t.v. talk shows, and maybe reality t.v. also.
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2011, 07:55:16 AM »
It is amazing.  This case has completely trashed the American media which always bases itself on biases and prejudice.  All bunches of media people like Nancy Grace and others have been noising consistently for the last three years that this young woman killed her two years old child simply because she was a liar and pursuing abusive way of life. The state persecution didn't present their case plausible.  The jury can’t listen to them, despite.  As the defense attorney put it there is no forensic test, no DNA and no finger print of Casey Anthony in the evidences.   The persecution provides the case with so much of a reasonable doubt. How on earth is that Casey face death penalty?  I will be amazed if they gave her death penalty.  Do they think that all liars and abusive people in this world are criminals?  Sham on them really.  They are jocks.
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2011, 08:06:07 AM »
She is not going to need to apply for any jobs -- she is going to cash in on this whole sordid affair.  I expect a book out in time for the Christmas shopping season and a made-for-TV movie by the fall sweeps season.

Perhaps an interview or two but the affair was so sordid I doubt anyone wants to be entertained by her as a wrongly accused victim herself.  And what could she write in a book?  All her crazy fantasies about her own life?  Who wants to read that.

I put my dollar on her 15 minutes being just about up, now.
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2011, 08:47:03 AM »
Next please. Hopefully a Kardashian murders Bruce Jenner and gets away with it.

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« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2011, 10:24:06 AM »
  Do they think that all liars and abusive people in this world are criminals?  Sham on them really.  They are jocks.

No, just the ones who chloroform and duct tape their toddlers faces and throw their bodies in a swamp to rot, after misleading the police for months.

by jocks do you mean jokes?  I don't get it....    I certainly didn't see anything funny about this trial or its outcome.    The taxpayers of the State of FL had a lot of their money wasted, that could have been put to better use.    At least they won't have to 'support' her in prison.   I can certainly see her with a reality show or a book deal (ghost written, of course).   Remember how OJ wrote his book "I Did It", which was a 'hypothetical' scenario for the deaths of his two victims?
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« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2011, 01:56:51 PM »
No, just the ones who chloroform and duct tape their toddlers faces and throw their bodies in a swamp to rot, after misleading the police for months.


SO, where is the evidence that Ms. Anthony did that?  Does she lied the police officer and have tattooed Bright Future on her body amount to that she did all of that. The main issue here is to show the EVIDENCE and that is what the jurors taken in.  I mean why the prosecutions miserably fail to show the world that EVIDENCE after spending that whole lot of taxpayers’ resource?
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Re: Casey Anthony = Not Guilty
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2011, 03:58:50 PM »
Well, thank you for that civics lessons......

It's really sad that Civics is no longer taught in school, because most Americans have no clue on how criminal justice is decided. I was on a capital case (murder) jury and the trial lasted almost 7 weeks. Once the trial was over and closing statements were made, we were given "instructions" by the judge. Those "instructions" were very clear on how we could decide the case and depending upon what we agreed was true, which type of crime had been committed and to what degree. There were also times during the trial, when we were instructed to ignore something that was shown or said, sometimes with little explanation. There are also discussions that occur between just the opposing counsel, the jury and judge that are not open to the public.

Since this was a death penalty case, the burden of proof would be substantial. Depending upon the instructions given to the jury, it is plausible that finding just one component missing from the requirement for that particular crime, could be missing, hence a not guilty verdict. I learned a lot about our criminal justice system and the rules that govern it and it is nothing like what you see portrayed on TV. Since we have no concept on how the jury was charged, nor what evidence was presented and accepted, the only people who know the real facts of the case, most probably had to make the decision they did.

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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2011, 04:35:07 PM »
. Since we have no concept on how the jury was charged, nor what evidence was presented and accepted, the only people who know the real facts of the case, most probably had to make the decision they did.

Excellent points. But the Jury Charge is open records, and was done so before the cameras by Judge Perry. The evidence is also open records and was admitted and accepted or objected to in open court in front of the Tv cameras. We as armchair jurors got to see and hear all the evidence just as the real jurors did, except with some things blurred out.
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« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2011, 04:46:28 PM »
The prosecutor was interviewed this morning on TV and I thought he was arrogant .

I have to admit I'm so anti death penalty my objectivity is not good in cases like this but its my opinion that no cause of death or witnesses to an actual crime is the definition of reasonable doubt .

I think she probably did it though . 

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« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2011, 04:51:25 PM »
Excellent points. But the Jury Charge is open records, and was done so before the cameras by Judge Perry. The evidence is also open records and was admitted and accepted or objected to in open court in front of the Tv cameras. We as armchair jurors got to see and hear all the evidence just as the real jurors did, except with some things blurred out.

If all of this was in the open, then even armchair jurors should understand why the jury decided how it did. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is an incredibly high standard to meet and it only applies to criminal cases. As long as there was "any" possible doubt that Ms. Anthony committed murder, they could not find her guilty, no matter what people may want to happen. In this case, it appears that the defense was much more effective in swaying the jury and planting that "seed of doubt". That's all it takes, as OJ proved many years ago. That's also why he was found "liable" for those deaths, in civil court, because the burden of proof is much lower than in criminal. In his case "it was more likely than not, that he committed the crime" and was therefore civilly liable for damages.
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« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2011, 04:57:04 PM »
Beyond a reasonable doubt is not the same as based on the preponderance of the evidence. The State of Florida, in my opinion, set itself up for failure by setting the bar so high. Regardless of what we all think we know, the facts of the case are mired in discovered remains, a lack of any solid, credible evidence as to a cause of death or the mode of death and no DNA or anything else linking Casey Anthony to the scene of the crime. The case was purely circumstantial. Some cases have been won with more and some with less evidence that what was presented in Florida. At the end of the day, 12 people were asked to consider the evidence they heard and be bound by the rule of law and the decision, no matter how ugly, was just.
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« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2011, 05:05:45 PM »
I think she probably did it though . 

I'm sure she did it as no other explanation makes any sense. The presence of chloroform and duct tape is just not consistent with an accidental drowning. I'm waiting for the announcement that the family had a huge life insurance policy, to cover this "horrible" tragedy.

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« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2011, 05:09:21 PM »
If all of this was in the open, then even armchair jurors should understand why the jury decided how it did. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is an incredibly high standard to meet and it only applies to criminal cases. As long as there was "any" possible doubt that Ms. Anthony committed murder, they could not find her guilty, no matter what people may want to happen. In this case, it appears that the defense was much more effective in swaying the jury and planting that "seed of doubt". That's all it takes, as OJ proved many years ago. That's also why he was found "liable" for those deaths, in civil court, because the burden of proof is much lower than in criminal. In his case "it was more likely than not, that he committed the crime" and was therefore civilly liable for damages.

Reasonable doubt does not equal absolute certainty.

 I totally understand how a jury could come back with an aquittal in this case based on the evidence presented. Doesn't mean I think she is innocent.

Something to watch here, if any of the jurors decide to speak I think you will find that they too believe she was involved somehow, but based on the evidence and rule of law could not find her guilty.

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« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2011, 06:44:01 PM »
I was not overly shocked over the Not Guilty for murder (hard to convict when no one could even give a cause of death) -- but I can't wrap my around the Not Guilty on child neglect.  Not doing anything or reporting a missing 2 year old for 31 fucking days stikes me as the definition of neglect!!!  I simply don't get that verdict at all.

Of course -- she may have known exactly where her daughter's body was..............

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« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2011, 08:23:19 PM »
Yeah, I first heard about this when it made the news down here yesterday. Bet that jury wouldn't have been so merciful if the wench was black.

Shameless flamebaiting to one side, I wonder why this hasn't attracted more attention?

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« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2011, 08:30:48 PM »
Yeah, I first heard about this when it made the news down here yesterday. Bet that jury wouldn't have been so merciful if the wench was black.

Shameless flamebaiting to one side, I wonder why this hasn't attracted more attention?

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« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2011, 08:31:44 PM »
Yeah, I first heard about this when it made the news down here yesterday. Bet that jury wouldn't have been so merciful if the wench was black.

Shameless flamebaiting to one side, I wonder why this hasn't attracted more attention?

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« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2011, 09:53:34 PM »
I hadn't heard out this case. How completely outrageous. Honestly I don't understand why some people care about the life of a fetus more than the life of an adult.

This is true and yet one more reason why I deplore the death penalty .

It is a mandatory life sentence. I don't see the death penalty connection.

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« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2011, 10:00:22 PM »
It is a mandatory life sentence. I don't see the death penalty connection.

I was commenting on Matty's nod to race and lack of merciful sentences handed down by judges and jury's alike in this country . I should have been more clear . 

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« Reply #46 on: July 06, 2011, 10:08:54 PM »
Hey Jan, what do you mean the world has gone mad?  Just because a mother probably kills her child accidentally and instead of reporting it immediately so professional help can come she waits 30 days and then gets tattoos on her back that say Beautiful Life in Latin and then the child's remains are found dumped like garbage in a swamp you think the world is a little nutty? And as bocker says if that is not negligent than what the hell is?

Yes Jan, as H.L. Mencken, I believe once said: "The law is a ass."

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« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2011, 11:00:28 PM »
Well, thank you for that civics lessons......

She is not going to need to apply for any jobs -- she is going to cash in on this whole sordid affair.  I expect a book out in time for the Christmas shopping season and a made-for-TV movie by the fall sweeps season.

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« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2011, 04:49:45 AM »
Yes Jan, as H.L. Mencken, I believe once said: "The law is a ass."

Charles Dickens's character Mr. Bumble said it, in Oliver Twist.

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« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2011, 08:20:36 AM »
I spoke with a CNA at work a couple of hours ago. She has a friend that served on that jury.  The friend told her, we all thought she was guilty, but the state did not have the evidence to convict.

Meanwhile, this juror had two Pinellas county sheriff officers watching her property, and protecting her,because of threats made to her.

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