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Author Topic: Unprotected anal sex | Lingering Symptoms  (Read 4691 times)

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Offline goodoy

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Unprotected anal sex | Lingering Symptoms
« on: June 30, 2011, 08:53:53 PM »
Hello, my name is Gabriel and I'm from Brazil.

I was drunk and i had unprotected anal sex with a girl i just met during carnaval in Brazil. I called her after and she said she was OK, but I really think she is lying.

The day of exposure was march 5th.

After 10 days of the intercourse I experienced symptoms like extreme nausea, mild fever (one day I took 8 pills of Tylenol, with no improvement), severe muscle pain, diffuse

pain on the joints, gastrointestinal gas and pain, recurrent aphtous ulcer especially on my finger knots and knees, shortness of breath, headache and some days of night sweats.

And weeks after i had a lot of rash, red dots all over the trunk that still here on my chest and upper back. I'm feeling pain in the ear too.

During the acute phase I lost 13 pounds in about 4 days. But I rapidly regain this weight in a couple of weeks.

Let's go for the tests:

- After 30 days I had a 4th gen test - Non Reactive

- After 6 weeks I had another 4th gen test - Non Reactive

- After 2 months (63 days) I had another 4th gen on a different laboratory which shows the manufacturer of the Kit:

ARCHITECT HIV Ag/Ab Combo assay
Non-reactive - C/O value - 0.16   
Cut-off point - 1.00


- After 75 days I took a 3rd gen test on a public heath center. Non-reactive.


- After 12 weeks (84 days) I had another 4 gen test

After this 12 weeks test I tried to feel better despite the symptoms that I had and was having.
I went with a couple of friends to drink. I drank a lot. At the end of the night I puked like never before, for almost an hour.
Two days after that, I ended with an ulcer on my mouth, pretty big. Panic all over again about HIV


- After 14/2 weeks (102 days, on June 15th) I had another 4 gen test (on a different laboratory, but one of the best too):

SISTEMA MODULAR HIV Ag/Ab Combi - ROCHE:NAO REATIVO (NON-REACTIVE)
LEITURA (INDICE S/CO):0.16
PONTO DE CORTE (CUT-OFF):0.90
LOTE:161304


At 16 weeks (112 days) I had a sore throat, pretty bad to swallow even my saliva. Lasted for a month. I didn't take nothing to heal, except vitamin C that I was takingm.
This sore throat was followed by a flu with a lot of mucus (flu with mucus is not very indicative for ARS symptom, so I guess this episode was just a bad flu for real)

At that same time I experienced a toothache pretty bad, which I went to the doctor and was confirmed a beggining of dental caries. Before that I just had one dental caries when I was little.
 
The red dots on my chest and back are still here, pretty visible, for the whole time, they just seem to change places, and sometimes there are more or less dots.

I didn't have any exposure since, I just stayed at home with my family.

I'm a healthy man, 25 years old, used to work out on a gym, i stopped drinking on this period, cause I knew something was wrong with me.

I have the habit of drinking green tea twice a day, but I don't think that inhibited the growth of the virus in my body.

Two weeks after the exposure I was pretty scared, so I bought 30 pills of Alpha Lipoic Acid, an antioxidant that inhibited the HIV virus on some 'in vitro' research. I took a pill each day for about a month. I don't know if this is the cause of the delayed window period.

I didn't take PEP or any kind of Prophylaxis.

Anyway, your american CDC is right to say 6 months, at least for my case. That are indeed, people that took longer than 3 months to positive on a test.

I knew I was not OK despite the tests, and some symptoms were kind of specific for HIV, like rash and low fever, so I am not convinced about my 102 days test.



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Re: Negative with 102 days but sure to be positive
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2011, 08:58:18 PM »
3 months is conclusive and has been since 2004. You are conclusively negative.

Offline goodoy

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Re: Negative with 102 days but sure to be positive
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2011, 09:03:40 PM »
RapidRod

I want to believe but i'm not feeling okay

My stomach is cramping since the beginning of the symptoms, i'm not felling okay.

I'm covered with red dots on my chest, was just too many symptoms.

Next week i'll do a 4 month test (07/05). I'm not feeling okay, that must be HIV...

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Negative with 102 days but sure to be positive
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2011, 09:06:52 PM »
Don't waste your money testing use it to seek professional counseling.

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Re: Negative with 102 days but sure to be positive
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2011, 06:36:50 AM »
Good,

You do NOT have hiv. As Rodney said, the window period for hiv testing has been at three months for years now.

The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six WEEKS, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days. A six week negative must be confirmed at the THREE MONTH point, but is highly unlikely to change. The window period remains at three months to catch the relatively rare person who takes a little longer than six WEEKS to test positive.

Alpha Lipoic Acid will NOT affect your test results. You are conclusively hiv negative and you do NOT need further testing.

If you continue to feel unwell, see a doctor. You have already ruled hiv out as a possible cause, so go find out what is really going on.

Here's what you need to know in order to remain hiv negative:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED FURTHER HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Offline goodoy

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Re: Negative with 102 days but sure to be positive
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2011, 08:44:17 AM »
Ann,

I agree totally with you.

On that night I had one condom and I put it, but after I put it sha said that we were not going to have sex cause she was on menses. Than I took off the condom and threw it on the trash. But after that I started doind massage on her and I figured out we could have anal sex, so I looked out for another condom. I didn't find another, so I went without, that was my mistake.

I didn't have sex since that episode, but I bought like 30 condoms and put in a specific place in my house, and I carry two in my wallet now, to not pass through that again.

I worry too much about my health, and even worring I put myself at risk. Alcohol really screw up with my risk judgement.


I did VDRL, and heps A, B and C too, all negative.

I can't close the case for HIV since the symptoms were troublesome, but I know that if it was HIV my tests had to return positive, and that, thank god, didn't happen.


Let the time pass, I'll go see an infectologist here in Brazil, I know I already gone through the worst.

Thank You

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Unprotected anal sex | Lingering Symptoms
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2011, 07:15:26 AM »
I'm talking from Brazil!

I've had an exposure in march 5th (unprotected insertive anal sex) with an unknow girl, pretty dumb of myself.

14 days after I experienced extreme nausea, loss of appetite, and after 1 week more mild fever, profuse night sweat, tingling pain on my joints, stomach rumbling, and the nausea continued. After one month of that I had a lot of small red dots in my chest and back, and they are still here, but a lot less.

Now, 8 months after, I still wake up with numbness on my feet, and hands, and all day I've been suffering with dry mouth and muscles twitchs all over the body. The nausea and stomach rumbling are present too.



Because of those symptoms,
I tested with 4th generation:

45 days
60 days
75 days
90 days
102 days
120 days
6 months
7 months
8 months (I did 4th gen and a Viral Load RNA 'undetectable, < 40')

All Negative

I also did tests for hep A. B, C and Syphillis on the eigth month


But what about the history of the symptoms? I can't relax myself!

What do you guys think?

Greetings from Brazil!


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Re: Unprotected anal sex | Lingering Symptoms
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2011, 07:17:26 AM »
■Please do not start a new thread every time you have another question or thought - regardless if you think your questions are related to each other or not. It helps us to help you when you keep all your thoughts or questions in one thread and it helps other readers to follow the discussion. Additional threads will be merged.

■If you cannot find your thread, click on the "Show own posts" link in the left-hand column of any forum page, under your name.


■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning  a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2011, 07:20:43 AM by RapidRod »

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Re: Unprotected anal sex | Lingering Symptoms
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2011, 07:42:29 AM »
Goodoy,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep everything in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.





You do not have hiv.

Instead of wasting more money on more tests, you should spend that money on seeing a doctor who can diagnose what is going on with you. You could be missing something important by your misguided focus on a virus that tests have already proved cannot be the cause.

You have already had six unnecessary tests - and I know that RNA tests cost a lot of money - and all that money could have gone into finding out what is actually going on. Stop chasing a virus that you do NOT have!!!

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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