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Offline John2038

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2011, 04:41:01 PM »
Hey Valmont,

not easy, I can feel what you are saying.. When it take you, sport can be the center of the life, a way of living, and much more. I have been in ur shoes. Loosing the opportunity to train, live it, feel it, practice it is a real big lost. Then you realize there are others sport. Sure, not the fav one (for now), but still, plenty others..

Best to u

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2011, 09:39:25 AM »
Hey John, what have you been playing?

For sure youre completely right.  In my case, all my social world is around that sport.  For sure, there are other sports and I know Id rather look for something more quiet maybe...  But in general, giving up is not of my options...
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2011, 09:50:47 AM »
Hi Val. I get what you're saying about biding your time. Every journey starts with the first step and being played last week was a first step. Hopefully in time, you will be playing in every game. Sometimes we do need to practice patience. We can't change people's minds overnight, but by standing our ground and being patient, we can get there in the end. Hope you get to play again soon. This is really ground-breaking stuff, so stick at it and win this victory for us all. Thank you!
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2011, 03:38:40 PM »
Hi Valmont. Keep us posted (how things goes, how u feel, u know).
Continue enjoying playing rugby. As long as you withdraw urself from the field if u are bleeding, the risk to infect others is very low..
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2011, 06:40:05 PM »
Thank you all for your interest.

The risk to infect anyone else is null if I dont bleed, I believe...

Ann, for sure, there is nothing more than being patient, but not so much !!!  I dont want to be allowed to play at 60 y.o......   

For what I managed in last 6 months, the best has been to be present, to show interest, to show to people that nothing has changed and that Im still the same.  I think it takes time too, for the other people to manage it...  Im sure nothing good can be done with force or against people...  In this time, Ive never received so many responsabilities in my team and Federation, I try to do thing well and demonstrate they can trust me, I also want to work against stigmas and make things easier for someone with HIV in the future...  But the most important for me right now is to go back on field till my health can allow me to do it...

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2011, 07:38:56 PM »
The risk to infect anyone else is null if I dont bleed, I believe...

Ann, for sure, there is nothing more than being patient, but not so much !!!  I dont want to be allowed to play at 60 y.o......   

For what I managed in last 6 months, the best has been to be present, to show interest, to show to people that nothing has changed and that Im still the same.  I think it takes time too, for the other people to manage it...  Im sure nothing good can be done with force or against people...  In this time, Ive never received so many responsabilities in my team and Federation, I try to do thing well and demonstrate they can trust me, I also want to work against stigmas and make things easier for someone with HIV in the future...  But the most important for me right now is to go back on field till my health can allow me to do it...

While u see a risk null if u don't bleed, fact is they see the risk if u bleed.
Still, it is very low.
Personally, I choosed to practice others sports: as I wasnt willing to disclose the others my status, it was, on my eyes, the only option. But this a personal choice. I respect yours!

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #56 on: November 27, 2011, 10:50:35 PM »
Thank you John, sure it is a personnal matter, definitively...  and people is divided about it...

Im 34, for age I will be out soon.  Also I know that when Ill be on med, with side effects on bones and articulation, I wont be possible to play any more...

By another way, I was thinking in stopping completely playing, but one of my rugby friends tells me to avoid any precipitate decision and that probably that mentality in the team is going to change...

Also, in a Rugby forum, people incentivate me not to stop playing...

For now, I training 3 a week but avoid contact situation each time I can and yes, Im afaid for a bad injury and bleeding, despites Ive never seen it here...


Apr 2011: Diagnotized
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Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
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Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #57 on: November 28, 2011, 04:52:18 AM »
It's heartbreaking reading u Valmont.
A simple rugby helmet should do the trick.

Also I know that when Ill be on med, with side effects on bones and articulation, I wont be possible to play any more...

Why should u have any of these side effects before years, if you do?

By another way, I was thinking in stopping completely playing, but one of my rugby friends tells me to avoid any precipitate decision and that probably that mentality in the team is going to change...

Also, in a Rugby forum, people incentivate me not to stop playing...

For now, I training 3 a week but avoid contact situation each time I can and yes, Im afaid for a bad injury and bleeding, despites Ive never seen it here...

You have time to think about the future. No reasons to take immediate decisions.
My 2 cents you will infect no one, as very unlikely.
I would encourage you starting a treatment, could it be early, but again here, it's a personal decision, to be discussed, when u are ready, with your id doc.

Best my friend
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2011, 10:46:20 AM »
It's heartbreaking reading u Valmont.
A simple rugby helmet should do the trick.

Why should u have any of these side effects before years, if you do?

You have time to think about the future. No reasons to take immediate decisions.
My 2 cents you will infect no one, as very unlikely.
I would encourage you starting a treatment, could it be early, but again here, it's a personal decision, to be discussed, when u are ready, with your id doc.

Best my friend
John



Although not a contact sport I continue to run and workout and compete. I've been on meds for 3.5 years now and have had no side effects on my joints...They had always hurt...lol...At 51 I can run a 21 minute 5k, not bad for an old guy and usually place in the top few percent of "healthy" people
My point is don't let meds stop anyone from athletics
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2011, 04:37:33 PM »
Ok, great, thanks a lot for your supportive words.

About starting soon a treatment, for now, Im waiting to my second set of lab exams, for January.  Last one were VL 170.000 and CD4 510, in june.  From june, I got 5 kg more and feel much better.

I know it is important to start soon a treatment to cut down VL and decrease transmition risks.  Also I believe it is better to star when CD4 is nearer 500 than 350, it is my personal appreciation.  But anyway, if my VL is under 100.000 and my CD4 above 500, I dont think I should start medication.

It is important to read you, Buf, this is the kind of things that really tranquilize.  It is always easy to read about bad effects and problems, but we forget that most of the time, everything goes right...

And I could play once again last week end in rugby beach, yeahhh !!!
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2011, 09:00:18 PM »
It's not really about lack of information, in my opinion. Fear is such an irrational thing...I know that planes are safe but when I'm up there I still feel scared and insecured.

I think a lot of people know how to get HIV (like your teammate) but they still get frightened even by a small physical contact. Everyone knows you can't get HIV through kissing but still a lot of people would run away like hell if asked to kiss someone with HIV.

It's the animal, irrational part of us. Unfortunately.

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2011, 08:56:59 PM »
I think youre right...  And I dont see any solution to that, unfortunatelly...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #62 on: December 05, 2011, 02:45:14 AM »
Hey Valmont,

I am glad to hear that you have fought the stigma and were able to play and sure could see your efforts to play and set your mind doing that. I am also glad to notice that you are getting the necessary vaccines that you need. You are doing all the right things to fight to get your rights and also save your life and take care of yourself.

I sometimes though think about your wife. I could relate to her. I have had a situation where I could not make myself to go to the doctor. So, I know the feelings of not going to doc in somewhat.

Were you able to convince your wife who you think might be positive (hope she isn't but you will never know unless she goes to doc). Has she taken any vaccines, has she gone to doc yet? Were you able to put your efforts to convince her to go to doc yet? You never know she may need the vaccines like you.

I am sorry if I am interfering your personal business but I just so think of her every so often and sometimes wonder if she needs the treatment that you are getting for yourself. The level of efforts that you had shown to play the contact sports, I do not doubt your ability to convince her to get the treatment that she needs ( if she is poz like you). Will you let us know?

N.B. Sorry its not fully thread related. The reason I have decided to put this in the public forum rather than in PM is because lots of us are aware of this situation and will be able to get the answer. Or is it just me that remember this May be so or may be not. Or its just that I so could relate to her.

Since
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2011, 01:37:46 PM »
Hi Since...

It is not the adecuate thread, but no matter I think...

About my wife, this is all a problem that makes me very very VERY worried !!!

We got separated few months ago, she left with my son to 300 km, she needed some distance from me. But we see every 2 weeks and then, have a normal couple life.

She has been hitten very strongly by the news of my infection, maybe more that I...  She is also frightened about stigma that exist here, her fathers have very strong words for people infected (they dont know...)...

We had many problems before that, and she had a lot of other kind of problem, so that started an important depression in her.  She is treated for that.

She still does not want to do the test, but starts to undestand it is important not to wait too long, and also that HIV doesnt mean death...

Last week, I was really angry, she went to her psychac and told him about my situation.  I dont know what he can have told her, during the week end she had many problem with stress and high blood presure.  Other king of recommandation was that condoms are not trustable and that in our case we should use 2, one on the other (!!!!!!!!!!!!  - Dont do this, it is the best way for them to break !!!!).  The best for the end, he told her many people infected with HIV are depressed and the more probable is that her depression is probable caused by VIH...  But how can he tell her something like that if she did not even done the test?????  In my case, because Im not depresive, he said that I probably denying the situation.  I dont think Im denying anything, living my life, trying to fullfill my dreams instead of crying is not denying, or not???  .

I dont undestand how some health "profesional" are prepared...



So here we are...  Few weeks ago, she was talking about doing the test and being accompagned by a friend; for know, she is so stressed that I think it should be better to wait some days before talking about that.  I cannot even thinking of showing weakness if my wife is the way she is, I try to be so supportive as I can, and generate tranquility

Thanks Goodness, Today she seems muuuuuuch more better.  It is complicated because in these days, I cannot travel easily, Im plenty


In my case, Im about having my second round of exams.  Last weeks, and particularly last days (i slept little, done less exercice, worked a lot and be very stressed too, I received 3 shots in 10 days), I noticed I have some linphatic node that have ingreased.  On august, I only had one or two that were inflammed, but know there are many in different parts of my body and I can feel them (they dont hurt).  Im a little worry, but as everything else go good, I dont think I shall be very alarmed, wont I???
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2011, 02:04:48 PM »
Val, it's common for people with hiv to have enlarged lymph nodes. Try to not worry too much about them, but DO show your doctor.

Your wife's psych doctor knows f*ck-all about hiv and should probably keep his mouth shut on the subject. I hope your wife didn't believe what he said about condoms.

Also, I do not believe I've ever heard of people with undiagnosed hiv suffering from depression due to hiv. And his assumption that you are in denial because you're not depressed says a lot more about his attitude towards hiv than anything. All in all, he sounds like a pretty crappy doctor.

I hope your wife tests before it's too late, for your child's sake if nothing else. It happens all the time that a person with undiagnosed hiv feels fine one week, and is in hospital fighting for their life the next. If I were you, I'd be tempted to drag her in to a testing center kicking and screaming if necessary. I know you can't do that, but damn. It must be so intensely frustrating for you!
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2011, 04:00:13 PM »
Thank you Ann...

Sure I dont know where she found this #/$"?@ doctor, a friend of hers recommended it to her...

It really sucks, Id also get her for testing.  When I told her, just the day after, before she could think a lot, I took her to my clinic, people were very kind, they talked with her.  But unfortunately, they were no possibility to test there...  Then, we were waiting for Canada medical exams, for migration but wheeeeeen will they be done??? (remember Im still in a process to get permanent visa for Canada).  Orden should have arrived two months ago...  And well, she told me she would not use medicine and things like this, by another way, I tell her to do it not for her, in the worst of the cases, but for our son...  Really, she deals very wrong with this.  She had a religious and very conservative education and values and this dont help...  More other, here VIH and AIDS are considered as desease for marginal people.  The culture of secret around it is incredible.  When I go to my clinic, I always say hello to people and try to be kind, but it is clear than most of them are so shamed to be there, and if they could disappear or hide, they would probably do it... but what?  This is just a decease...

About her depression, for sure, it is not for the virus, I dont believe this a second...  She had to deal with really a lots of things last 2 years...  About condoms, I hope this wont change things in our intimity, but I wont be surprised of the contrary.  For now, when we had relations, we always used them without any problem...

My HIV doc is not worried, he says I have to let her take her time (Oh South America, nothing is never urgent here....).  I think the same of you, one day you can be well and a week after into hospital, and I dont want this to happen.  Anyway, I would have liked her to be tested before the end of 2011...

For me, dealing with my wifes fears is much more, much more difficult than to deal with my own infection, and yes sometimes I feel so impotent...

I dont worry about my node, well I try to...  And sure I will show them to my doc, anyway, this means that my body is doing something against infection, this should not be a (so) bad thing...

Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

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« Reply #66 on: December 05, 2011, 04:15:02 PM »
Val, how old is your son? Are you sure that you were infected after he was born? If you're not sure, he should be tested if your wife won't. It would be terrible if he was infected in the womb or during delivery and you don't know his status because of your wife's refusal to test.
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #67 on: December 05, 2011, 04:37:10 PM »
My son is a little more than 3.  The pediatric doc says that there is really little possibilities he could be infected because of his weight, size and good health; much more hight and strong than other children at the same age, and dont think he should be tested.  That was something I was very worried about, I wanted him to be tested too but my doc prefers my wife test before.  I have been thinking in testing him without saying anything to my wife, but I see it is something delicate...

Honestly, Im not so sure I couldnt have been infected before....  The only thing that is sure is that my wife was neg when at the first months she was pragment and that I was neg in 2005.
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

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« Reply #68 on: December 05, 2011, 07:38:23 PM »
Fingers crossed that the doctor is right about your son.
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2011, 12:19:01 AM »
You think I should make him tested, shouldnt I?

But I understood that VIH made trouble during first or second year, wth a lower weight, illness problem and so on...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #70 on: December 06, 2011, 12:08:05 PM »
Val, not necessarily. Just like with adults, hiv affects everyone differently and that includes babies and children. One's hiv status is never anything to guess about.

It's a shame that your wife won't test, not even for the sake of your son. Maybe if you tell her that if she won't test, you'll have no option but to test the boy, then maybe she might wake up and realise what's at stake here.

If she tests negative, then there is no reason to test your son. If she tests positive, it's imperative that the boy is tested as well. It's one thing for her to stick her head in the sand where her own health is concerned, but it's quite another when a child is involved. She has got to test!
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #71 on: December 06, 2011, 02:33:54 PM »
Thanks Ann, these are good advise, I will try to make this situation change.  This cannot wait more...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #72 on: December 10, 2011, 01:43:10 AM »
Hi Val,

Thanks for letting us know. I agree with Ann - if u tell her about your son ( I wasn't even aware of that!) , she may awake up and follow your advice. I know its gonna be hard for u to convince but look at the bright side. May be they both are negs but they will not know until they get tested. And if they are, then hopefully, she will be able to accept that and take care of herself and your son and you will be out of this tough situation. I wish u the best!

Edited to add : I am sure you would be able to convince your wife soon, just the way u convinced others to play the contact sport. If someone was nagging at my ear 24/7, I am sure I would have not waited for 7 years to take care of my hiv issues. You don't even have to nag, you have all the logic in the world for her to go out get tested. I would do what Ann said (sorry for the repeats) , take your son to the doc and get him tested. I just realized did u cheat on her while she is pregnant? Oh man! Then she will have lot more forgiveness issues to deal with. It may sound like I am judging, I am not. Hopefully, u and your wife could get over with all this soon. Good luck!
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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #73 on: December 11, 2011, 12:30:41 AM »
I'm always amazed how some people say they won't take meds if they are HIV+...taking meds everyday might be a bitch but dying a slow death cause by PCP is much worse.

I had a really nasty case of PCP when I found out and I don't ever want to go through that EVER again...or put my family through that as well.

I'm hoping for a positive resolution to your problems Val and I hope that your wife comes to her senses. She HAS to test as soon as possible and, if she is poz, she has to realize that it's far from the end of the world.

 

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #74 on: December 12, 2011, 06:04:27 PM »
Sure, thanks Since and Rockin...

Ill have a check in January and will go to lab at the end of the month, it might help to talk about this...  Anyway, in last 6 months my wife has got much more quiet about that, last week, I found her very very great.  What I try to show is that absolutely nothing in my daily life is changing...  Ipractice sport, work hard, have my friend, travel....  and of course take care of alimentation, deceases and rest.  Im trying to make this to her as less dramatic as it can be.



Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2011, 10:05:50 PM »
Sure, thanks Since and Rockin...

Ill have a check in January and will go to lab at the end of the month, it might help to talk about this...  Anyway, in last 6 months my wife has got much more quiet about that, last week, I found her very very great.  What I try to show is that absolutely nothing in my daily life is changing...  Ipractice sport, work hard, have my friend, travel....  and of course take care of alimentation, deceases and rest.  Im trying to make this to her as less dramatic as it can be.





Same here. If you don't suffer heavy side effects it doesn't have to be dramatic at all.

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #76 on: December 14, 2011, 09:23:11 PM »
Hey Val,

I understand you want your wife to wait because of her issues. What's the hold up to take your son now? You are just testing! Once you are done you would know what would be the next steps? He is kid, the sooner you would do the TESTING, the better for him. Trust me I am talking from experiences. FEAR has its price. You don't need a doc advice for HIV testing and have your son wait for another month when there is a good chance that he could be poz. I sure hope he is not. You wouldn't know until you get him tested. You need to take him for HIV testing ASAP!!!!!!!

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #77 on: December 15, 2011, 11:55:33 AM »
Hi Since.

No, I dont want my wife to wait for her test, but I cannot pressure her if she also have other psychologic problems...  Of course, Im completely aware of the situation and about what can happen to her, but she is in a total denying situation and I dont know how to manage it.  Im very surprise about how quiet are docs about that, they tell me to wait, no to hurry, not to pressure...  I try to support her as much as I can, but Im not sure Im doing it right...  By the way, I cannot take decision against her, this situation generate me a lot of stress and fatigue...

About my son, for his age and development, docs says it is highly improbable he could be infected and recommand me to test him only if his mother is infected. 

For now, they are about 500 km from where I live, so this makes everything more difficult...
Apr 2011: Diagnotized
Jun 2011: CD4: 504  VL: 176.000
Dic 2011: CD4: 714  VL: 95.000
May 2012: CD4: 395 VL: 67.000
Jun 2012: CD4: 367
Agu 2012: Starting Emtricitabine 200 mg / Tenofovir 300 mg and Efavirenz 600 mg (2 pills) different brands or VIRADAY/ATRIPLA/Mylan....
Sep 2012: VL: 138
Dic 2012: CD4: 708 VL: <34  %CD4: 32%
Jan 2013: CD4: 707 VL: <20
May 2013: CD4: 945 VL: <34 %CD4: 33%
Agu 2013: CD4: 636 VL: <34 %CD4: 50%
Dic 2013: Latent TB, started Isoniazid

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Re: Contact sports
« Reply #78 on: December 15, 2011, 03:59:13 PM »
I can not see what else you could do in the circumstances . Hopefully your wife will test and clarity will be achieved. As all the medical people concerned with your wife and son know all, they are equipped with the knowledge they need if , God for bid, either your wife or son become ill.

I wish you continued strength during this very difficult time ,
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