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Author Topic: Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus  (Read 2355 times)

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Offline Eagle

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Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus
« on: September 25, 2011, 04:31:14 PM »
Hi there! Congratulations for the great service provided for all the community.
I'm from Brazil and 4 months ago had an encounter with a sex worker. I performed protected vaginal and unprotected cunnilingus on her for about 10 minutes.
3 months later I experienced sore throat and an oral herpes. Went to the dermatologist to take care of the herpes and he asked for some blood tests, one of them the cd4 cd8 tests. He said that this kind of test is very accurate and usual to check the immune system conditions. When I saw these requests, I realized about my previous risks (that cunnilingus) and became crazy about the possibility of an infection.
Well, the tests came with CD4 808 (41%), CD8 568 (27%) and ratio 1,43.
Are these numbers encouraging for an HIV negative result 3 months after the risky contact?
Thanks and best regards!

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Re: Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2011, 05:37:59 PM »
At no time were you at risk for HIV.  Your CD4 and CD8 values, which nonetheless are quite good, are not relevant to this case.
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Re: Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2011, 09:12:52 PM »
Ok, thanks for your reply. Lots of things passed on my mind at the time that the doctor asked for this tests, which I thought were very specific for HIV poz guys for immune system monitoring purposes. Then, he said that these are not only for poz guys, and he was searching the causes of my herpes crisis. In his opinion, it could be any immune problem, but with the results is his hands, his conclusion is that the herpes on me are generally caused by stress.
As far as I remember, my mouth was healthy, the vagina of the sex worker was good, no drinks, no drugs, no menstrual blood involved at all.
Now I am quite anxious: To test or not to test?!
And a question, please: Is the CD4, CD8 absolute numbers, its percentage and ratio abnormal after 3 months of the infection? Or is this time enough for the immune system to be reconstituted and shows regular and normal values?
Thanks!

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Re: Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2011, 10:57:40 PM »
Actually following initial HIV infection, a persons cd3 count often tanks temporarily, going to dangerously low levels (under 100 in many cases) while the body mounts an initial response to infection.

Those numbers often bounce around for six months to a year before settling down.

Of course, this is of academic interest only considering you had no risk for infection. And judging by your numbers, you are not fighting an initial HIV infection either.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Offline Eagle

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Re: Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2011, 10:42:29 AM »
Ok, I got it. But when you say cd3 you mean cd4 right? These are the directly affected T cells when an HIV infection is going on, is that right?
So, you guys, considering my level of risk involved and my numbers on these blood tests, thinks it's unnecessary to get myself tested? And am I safe enough to have unprotected sex with my partner (almost wife actually)?
Thanks for the replies and advices!

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Re: Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2011, 11:09:42 AM »
Eagle,

Yes, Jonathan meant CD4. Your CD4 or any other blood values are irrelevant. You cannot diagnose hiv by looking at your blood work. ONLY specific hiv antibody testing can diagnose hiv.

Your level of risk is non-existent. You did NOT have a risk. You do NOT need to test unless it's a part of a regular, routine sexual health check up.

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Re: Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2011, 11:12:27 AM »
This is all about guilt over having strayed. You were not a risk for HIV. Period. So there's no cause to be concerned about having intercourse with your "almost-wife."

Stop getting unnecessarily caught up in details and get on with your life.
Andy Velez

Offline Eagle

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Re: Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2011, 12:10:14 PM »
Thank you sir, thank you lady!
Now I'm going to try to forget all this stuff and move on! If I stay still unsafe, I will be tested for HIV. Actually, I would like to go testing right now, but 3 weeks ago I took the anti-flu vaccine (including H1N1 cepas) and read about the possibility of "false positive" during the first 4 weeks after that.
Would like to congratulate all the staff again!
Hugs from Brazil!

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Re: Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2011, 12:58:13 PM »
OK. Time to get on with your life.

Andy Velez

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Re: Scared and unsafe - cunnilingus
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2011, 03:50:19 PM »
Eagle,

Yes, Jonathan meant CD4. Your CD4 or any other blood values are irrelevant. You cannot diagnose hiv by looking at your blood work. ONLY specific hiv antibody testing can diagnose hiv.

Your level of risk is non-existent. You did NOT have a risk. You do NOT need to test unless it's a part of a regular, routine sexual health check up.

Ann

Thanks for catching that, Ann. Sorry about the typo.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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