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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2011, 10:24:46 AM »

Hmmmmpfff... Hadn't you been advised against this by one of the mods?

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2011, 10:27:28 AM »
As usual, something went right over my head!  Is there a history with that phrase or something?  Do I need to google it myself?
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2011, 10:38:38 AM »
As usual, something went right over my head!  Is there a history with that phrase or something?  Do I need to google it myself?

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2011, 12:46:00 PM »
i don't know why all the sudden, gut thought of Ecstasy, sh rooms, and a few other fun ones have been popping in and out of my head.  Just have a night of clubbing but then realty steps in and i don't know if this is a good thing.  I know for me dropping some ex and going to a rave is a great relief.  Will this be the case or brass myself for a rough ride.  What so you all think
I have a friend and we have had HIV exact same amount of time. He did and continues to drink and drug. I quit right off. He is in and out of hospital. Looks 30 yrs older than I and has nearly died many times yet continues drugging. So its your choice, take care of yourself or not. I enjoy my health.

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2011, 12:58:11 PM »
I have a friend and we have had HIV exact same amount of time. He did and continues to drink and drug. I quit right off. He is in and out of hospital. Looks 30 yrs older than I and has nearly died many times yet continues drugging. So its your choice, take care of yourself or not. I enjoy my health.

That's all well and good for you and a pity for your friend. But the OP is wondering about a one off, not becoming a life long partier.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2011, 01:13:44 PM »
I have a friend and we have had HIV exact same amount of time. He did and continues to drink and drug. I quit right off. He is in and out of hospital. Looks 30 yrs older than I and has nearly died many times yet continues drugging. So its your choice, take care of yourself or not. I enjoy my health.

Uh, just recently you said you had had a 15 year addiction to opiates. (though Miss P is happy you are clean now)
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2011, 01:23:31 PM »
I'm thinking of doing the new bath salts thing.  Wonder if Bath & Body Works carries them.  Which reminds me, their semi-annual sale starts in 8 days.  Contact their customer service number at 1-800-756-5005 and request a 20% off coupon.  You can use it on top of their already awesome sale prices.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2011, 04:40:46 PM »
I am so doing an E, a tea dress and a jockstrap for Brighton Pride

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2011, 05:03:33 PM »
I am so doing an E, a tea dress and a jockstrap for Brighton Pride

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Pics please ... I'm begging you pics please  ;D

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2011, 05:31:20 PM »
OK, if I do, deal :-)
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2011, 06:04:22 PM »
I took an out-of-town guest to pride when I lived in NYC and he insisted on wearing Calvin Klein underwear (height of craze, early 90's)... I was so mortified.

... here I am years later working a Panama hat and a lot of Prada. Please admire my shirtless Puerto Rican date :) likely high on a potent mixture of crushed/snorted pills and ketamine -- my home brewed specialty.

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2011, 06:15:00 PM »
I took an out-of-town guest to pride when I lived in NYC and he insisted on wearing Calvin Klein underwear (height of craze, early 90's)... I was so mortified.

... here I am years later working a Panama hat and a lot of Prada. Please admire my shirtless Puerto Rican date :) likely high on a potent mixture of crushed/snorted pills and ketamine -- my home brewed specialty.



Gasp ... surely that's not you holding a domestic beer . Prada and Budweiser , I do declare whats the world coming to !

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« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2011, 06:18:48 PM »
Gasp ... surely that's not you holding a domestic beer . Prada and Budweiser , I do declare whats the world coming to !

IIRC that's all you could drink in the "open container" pen of the post-parade festivities in the Village that year. I rarely consume beer anyway. So bloating!
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« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2011, 06:23:36 PM »
IIRC that's all you could drink in the "open container" pen of the post-parade festivities in the Village that year. I rarely consume beer anyway. So bloating!

I am relieved you have a valid reason instead of an excuse . I feel better now .

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« Reply #64 on: May 24, 2011, 06:32:42 PM »
I took an out-of-town guest to pride when I lived in NYC and he insisted on wearing Calvin Klein underwear (height of craze, early 90's)... I was so mortified.

... here I am years later working a Panama hat and a lot of Prada. Please admire my shirtless Puerto Rican date :) likely high on a potent mixture of crushed/snorted pills and ketamine -- my home brewed specialty.



That guy sitting between you two does not appear to be having as much fun.  Body language (crossed arms/feet) suggest he is not happy about something that just took place.  Your date has it going on for sure and that little smile on your faces tells me that the day turned into a rather enjoyable evening.

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« Reply #65 on: May 24, 2011, 07:10:14 PM »
That guy sitting between you two does not appear to be having as much fun. 

I think he is entering a K Hole
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #66 on: May 24, 2011, 08:11:17 PM »
... here I am years later working a Panama hat and a lot of Prada.

And what on earth are you wearing on your feet? So Euroyuckepean. ~gag~
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #67 on: May 24, 2011, 08:40:29 PM »
And what on earth are you wearing on your feet? So Euroyuckepean. ~gag~

Very fashionable circa 1994.  My ex from that time used to wear those.  I always thought it was a white boy thang.
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« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2011, 08:42:43 PM »
Very fashionable circa 1994.  My ex from that time used to wear those.  I always thought it was a white boy thang.

How can you really see them? They're brown Prada loafers circa '97.
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« Reply #69 on: May 24, 2011, 08:44:50 PM »
How can you really see them? They're brown Prada loafers circa '97.

As if you would wear anything else, didn't need to guess much ::)
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« Reply #70 on: May 24, 2011, 10:25:39 PM »
I so appreciate your guys humor.    Oh and Mecca your right I'm talking about a one off.  Not picking it up like a habit.  I couldn't afford it.  lol
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« Reply #71 on: May 24, 2011, 10:37:53 PM »



LOL @ Budweiser-- were you all watching Nascar too?
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« Reply #72 on: May 25, 2011, 06:57:17 PM »
The more I look at that pic, the more P looks like Boy George to me.
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« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2011, 07:07:49 PM »
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2011, 07:08:12 PM »
This photo (much repeated) demonstrates the perils of drugs. children

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« Reply #75 on: May 25, 2011, 07:21:17 PM »
The more I look at that pic, the more P looks like Boy George to me.

You just can't handle my sublime gayness which manifests itself in that posy perching.
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« Reply #76 on: May 25, 2011, 07:22:31 PM »
You just can't handle my sublime gayness which manifests itself in that posy perching.

Of course. That must be it.
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« Reply #77 on: May 25, 2011, 07:24:32 PM »
Of course. That must be it.

All that matters is that I can still pull down a piece like that Puerto Rican while still prancing in that outfit. "win win"
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« Reply #78 on: May 25, 2011, 07:25:13 PM »
So... what happened to that big chair?

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« Reply #79 on: May 25, 2011, 07:29:53 PM »
So... what happened to that big chair?

It was one of those things you paid someone to sit in, then they took your pictar and put it in a "picture greeting card" and then over-charged you for it all. Pride celebrations in NYC are sophisticated affairs!

btw, one reason I was dressed up a bit is that in true Carrie Bradshaw fashion I had arranged a pre-Pride brunch at Odeon in Tribeca. Alas those other girls didn't do their part and left me swinging in the breeze.
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« Reply #80 on: May 25, 2011, 09:00:57 PM »
I've looked at this photo many times now and can't help looking at the young in up front, obviously not happy about something.  I like the confidence of the young cock sucker mature lad on the right.


edited;  After checking him, I now wonder if I was as hot as I thought I was or if I was just a slut.  He has the look of yeah, I am in charge.
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« Reply #81 on: May 25, 2011, 09:11:27 PM »
He was definitely "in charge" when I took him wearing leather chaps to the Black Party that year. Oh, and did I mention his last name was "de Jesus"? Sadly I've lost track of him over the years.
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« Reply #82 on: May 25, 2011, 11:16:48 PM »
What would Nancy Reagan say about all this drug talk?  Come on guys.  Just say NO!

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« Reply #83 on: May 25, 2011, 11:19:15 PM »
What would Nancy Reagan say about all this drug talk?  Come on guys.  Just say NO!

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« Reply #84 on: May 26, 2011, 12:12:33 AM »
I think he is entering a K Hole

I think someone has first hand experience with that :o 

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« Reply #85 on: May 26, 2011, 06:43:49 AM »

What's it like? Do tell...

Imagine feeling like you are dead but still having to vomit. Kind of like being in an eerie black nothingness with lots of vomitus shooting out of you. So pretty.
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« Reply #86 on: May 26, 2011, 08:34:10 AM »
Fairies in K-holes are always getting lost on Fire Island and found sleeping in the oddest places
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« Reply #87 on: May 26, 2011, 08:54:38 AM »
The first time I experienced a K hole I freaked out . I was lying on a sofa and I couldn't move or speak wondering if I was going to be like that forever . Then I remembered that K is an animal tranquilizer and I freaked out some more thinking about the kitty cats and puppies having surgery and being paralyzed but completely aware they are being cut on and unable to do anything about it .

I swore if I could wake up I would never do K again . I woke up and snorted a bigger line right away . I like the smell of it . 

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« Reply #88 on: May 26, 2011, 09:08:04 AM »
How's come I don't seem to know what people are talking about on so many posts?  What the heck is a K hole?

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« Reply #89 on: May 26, 2011, 09:11:42 AM »
How's come I don't seem to know what people are talking about on so many posts?  What the heck is a K hole?



K is short for Ketimine an animal tranquilizer , if you snort it you will get high , if you snort a bit too much you sedate yourself and go into what people call a K hole where you are sedated but aware of whats going on around you .  

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« Reply #90 on: May 26, 2011, 09:20:04 AM »
K is short for Ketimine an animal tranquilizer , if you snort it you will get high , if you snort a bit too much you sedate yourself and go into what people call a K hole where you are sedated but aware of whats going on around you .  

Then what's the point of doing it if you can't reach your cocktail?  Lordy, I sure have lived in my little gay bubble too long. 
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« Reply #91 on: May 26, 2011, 09:31:07 AM »
Then what's the point of doing it if you can't reach your cocktail?  Lordy, I sure have lived in my little gay bubble too long. 

Its not something I would want to do again . When I was younger I liked to experiment but I started to look like a mad scientist so I had to dial it back a little .

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« Reply #92 on: May 26, 2011, 09:34:47 AM »
When I was younger I liked to experiment but I started to look like a mad scientist so I had to dial it back a little .

When I was growing up, we called people who experimented with anything available "garbage heads". ;D

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« Reply #93 on: May 26, 2011, 09:41:08 AM »
When I was growing up, we called people who experimented with anything available "garbage heads". ;D

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We called them burn outs .

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« Reply #94 on: May 26, 2011, 09:46:52 AM »
Ok since we are defining things what is the black hole? Is it the same as the K hole? 

Back when Key West was still gay, I remember people talking about falling down the black hole. Never knew what it was but it sounded scary.

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« Reply #95 on: May 26, 2011, 09:52:00 AM »
The first time I experienced a K hole I freaked out . I was lying on a sofa and I couldn't move or speak wondering if I was going to be like that forever . Then I remembered that K is an animal tranquilizer and I freaked out some more thinking about the kitty cats and puppies having surgery and being paralyzed but completely aware they are being cut on and unable to do anything about it .


That's precisely the type of experience I would have on that crap.  And I do NOT like the smell or taste of it.  As an enhancer for things like X, sure.  On it's own, no use for it whatsoever. 
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« Reply #96 on: May 26, 2011, 10:02:58 AM »
K is short for Ketimine an animal tranquilizer , if you snort it you will get high , if you snort a bit too much you sedate yourself and go into what people call a K hole where you are sedated but aware of whats going on around you . 

A proper K-hole is a complete out-of-body-experience. I've completely floated on the ceiling, or found myself in another room with glass wall, etc. It's a sensation unlike any other drug.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #97 on: May 26, 2011, 10:03:25 AM »
That's precisely the type of experience I would have on that crap.  And I do NOT like the smell or taste of it.  As an enhancer for things like X, sure.  On it's own, no use for it whatsoever. 

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #98 on: May 26, 2011, 10:04:20 AM »
We called them burn outs .

Where I lived, burn-outs were mainly those of us people who were constantly high on pot. Garbage heads were people who tried any drug that we they could get our their hands on.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #99 on: May 26, 2011, 10:10:47 AM »
A proper K-hole is a complete out-of-body-experience. I've completely floated on the ceiling, or found myself in another room with glass wall, etc. It's a sensation unlike any other drug.

I remember one time watching Saving Private Ryan while doing K . The opening scene where they were landing on the beach was so intense , I actually felt like I was there ... when that scene ended my friend and I were all wrapped up in each others arms without even realizing it .     

 


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