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Offline PozJeepGuy

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recreational drugs while on meds??
« on: May 22, 2011, 02:11:53 AM »
i don't know why all the sudden, gut thought of Ecstasy, sh rooms, and a few other fun ones have been popping in and out of my head.  Just have a night of clubbing but then realty steps in and i don't know if this is a good thing.  I know for me dropping some ex and going to a rave is a great relief.  Will this be the case or brass myself for a rough ride.  What so you all think
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2011, 03:17:04 AM »
Man, I feel so boring compared to many of the people I know.  The hardest thing I've ever done was pot, and I got so sick on that.  I think it was tainted with something, because I don't understand puking my guts out and feeling like I was going crazy.  I think some LSD or something was in it.  After that, I was just always afraid to take something that I had no idea what it really was or where it came from.  Give me a beer or whiskey sour and I'm good.  So, I really am as boring as I seem.  Or square...lol. 

As for doing these on HIV meds, I think most just caution against forgetting to take your meds and not real interactions.  Maybe others can give more info.       

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2011, 05:37:28 AM »
Everyone needs to cut loose sometimes

One chemistry point, the Norvir (ritonavir) will make most recreational drugs last longer and have a stronger effect (because it prevents them leaving the body at the usual speed) ie use less.

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2011, 07:05:20 AM »
  The hardest thing I've ever done was pot, and I got so sick on that.  I think it was tainted with something, because I don't understand puking my guts out and feeling like I was going crazy.  I think some LSD or something was in it.        

  A lot of people who actually inhale the first time experience these effects Teddy.  When I was younger I had a friend who use to smoke with me that would scare the crap out of me because he got so sick.  Go get you a dimebag and try again... once you get past the sickness issues you can move up to something harder like crack.


i don't know why all the sudden, gut thought of Ecstasy, sh rooms, and a few other fun ones have been popping in and out of my head.  Just have a night of clubbing but then realty steps in and i don't know if this is a good thing.  I know for me dropping some ex and going to a rave is a great relief.  Will this be the case or brass myself for a rough ride.  What so you all think

get yourself some shrooms, E will eat holes in your brain.

 
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Offline hope_for_a_cure

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2011, 07:14:14 AM »
I doubt I would do anything stronger than pot these days but thats just me.  Of course if there was a chance to get some good hash oil, I would love the taste of that (just a drop or two on me bong hit).  This month has been fun because I actually came into some pretty good sticky bud when I ventured to WV.

Ya gotta have some fun right?

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2011, 07:53:43 AM »
Just say no!  As if we ever had that ability.  I've never done those but am not opposed to it.  I started smoking medical marijuana almost 2 years ago and it was a godsend.  I'm not sure about interactions, but I regularly take my evening meds with white zin and so far, no problems.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2011, 08:41:32 AM »
well I know alot of folks that PNP and other types of shit and it doesn't seem to bother them  The strongest thing i've ever tried is pot, and only do it when i'm out of the country, LOVE me some Amsterdam, its a must visit for anyone that has never been, not just for the smoke, but a nice laid back city all together.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2011, 08:46:35 AM »
 Hi,

Your in a drug study right?   Just wondering what the doctors may say about using recreational drugs while in this study.  Curious...

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2011, 08:58:30 AM »
What so you all think

I think you should let me sample anything you get your hands on first, just to be on the safe side. ;D

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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2011, 09:07:10 AM »
I think you should let me sample anything you get your hands on first, just to be on the safe side. ;D

All things in moderation, including moderation.

Priceless!  I love it.  My family's home county is world wide known for it's weed.  Meigs county ohio.  No one works yet everyone lives in nice large homes!
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2011, 09:44:05 AM »
You guys just made my day.  I haven't laughed this hard in a few months.  I haven't done anything stronger than weed in a decade.  And I forgot who brought up the study but i didn't even think of that aspect.  I am differently not a pnp person.  I just thought it would be fun to take some x and just go clubbing one night just for a release. 

Ann if you ever get to Denver your on.  It will be my first date with a girl since high school. 
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2011, 09:59:36 AM »
I doubt I would do anything stronger than pot these days but thats just me.  Of course if there was a chance to get some good hash oil, I would love the taste of that (just a drop or two on me bong hit).  This month has been fun because I actually came into some pretty good sticky bud when I ventured to WV.

Ya gotta have some fun right?

Not sure if I already knew you were from WVa or not.  Probably did, but I'll blame it on teh HIV.  My entire family is from Jackson CO WVA and across the river in Meigs Co, OH.  Seems there's no one in those parts who doesn't smoke the weed.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2011, 10:00:30 AM »
A one-off on X isn't going to skew your study - just make sure you take your hiv meds as you would normally. That's the most important thing when indulging in any recreational activities; don't let the fun get in the way of remembering your meds.

I'll see if my broomstick is up to a trip all the way over to Denver. I'd hate for it to conk out on me somewhere over the Atlantic Ocean. ;)
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2011, 10:06:16 AM »
LOVE me some Amsterdam, its a must visit for anyone that has never been, not just for the smoke, but a nice laid back city all together.

I love Amsterdam too! There's something there for absolutely everyone. Some of my fondest holiday memories are from trips to Amsterdam. Love it. One of the most enjoyable afternoons I've ever had was getting stoned and going to the science museum there. Pretty much every exhibit is "hands-on" and it's soooo much fun! I'd recommend the science museum to any stoner. :)
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2011, 10:06:43 AM »
Not sure if I already knew you were from WVa or not.  Probably did, but I'll blame it on teh HIV.  My entire family is from Jackson CO WVA and across the river in Meigs Co, OH.  Seems there's no one in those parts who doesn't smoke the weed.

I am from SC but have a friend that I visit from time to time up in WV.  Fruits from that garden are well worth the drive. His abode sits in Hampshire County (west of Winchester VA) and is actually quite nice.  The fact that he is so remote enables him to pretty much do what he wants w/o worrying about the neighbors getting an eye full.  

He is hetro so no hanky-panky with me but from what I hear, he and his GF usually do the wild thing out by the pool during the summer season.  Many of my friends are hetros, they are actually a lot of fun and really know how to party.

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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2011, 10:07:34 AM »
I'm from Kentucky. And they smoke alot of weed there too. I never understood the big deal with weed. I would prefer people smoke than drink any day.  How many mean stoners do you know compared to mean drunks
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2011, 10:07:41 AM »
I'll see if my broomstick is up to a trip all the way over to Denver. I'd hate for it to conk out on me somewhere over the Atlantic Ocean. ;)

It better make it across the pond lady!  You're expected to be in Seattle come August.  

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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2011, 10:09:41 AM »
How many mean stoners do you know compared to mean drunks

Good point! 

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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2011, 10:21:37 AM »
I'm from Kentucky. And they smoke alot of weed there too. I never understood the big deal with weed. I would prefer people smoke than drink any day.  How many mean stoners do you know compared to mean drunks

Please don't tell me you're from anywhere close to Inez.  I will have to stop talking to you....lol  I was about 19 and trying to go from WVA to Vanceburg, KY to see my Bill.  I got lost in Inez and ended up in jail for the night for trespassing.  I didn't realize I had driven into wolfecreek coal company property.  I thought I was doing ok and suddenly the gravel stopped and I didn't.  I drove out on a coal crusher and my car was teetering on the beam that separated the crushers.  2 bubbas showed up and said they'd be right back with help.  They showed up alright, with a bunch of cops and I was scared shitless.  They were slamming me against their cars and were telling me how people disappear for trespassing in that area.  They probably grew dope there.  I was never so happy to go to jail. 
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2011, 10:24:07 AM »
I got lost in Inez and ended up in jail for the night for trespassing. 

I know that pissed her off BIG TIME!!  You know better than that buddy.

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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2011, 10:33:30 AM »
I know that pissed her off BIG TIME!!  You know better than that buddy.

YUCK!  that'd  truly be worse than spending a night in hillbilly jail.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2011, 10:44:48 AM »
once you get past the sickness issues you can move up to something harder like crack.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2011, 12:12:03 PM »
This is some information on HIV and recreational drugs from The Body, so who knows whether it is accurate or not.

http://www.thebody.com/content/art38737.html?mtrk=4622366

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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2011, 01:02:42 PM »
The http://www.hiv-druginteractions.org/ website has the following recreational drugs in their database:

Alcohol
Cocaine
Gamma-hydroxybutyrate
Marijuana
MDMA (Ecstasy)
Methamphetamine
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2011, 02:33:12 PM »
Man, I feel so boring compared to many of the people I know.  The hardest thing I've ever done was pot, and I got so sick on that.  I think it was tainted with something, because I don't understand puking my guts out and feeling like I was going crazy.  I think some LSD or something was in it.  After that, I was just always afraid to take something that I had no idea what it really was or where it came from.  Give me a beer or whiskey sour and I'm good.  So, I really am as boring as I seem.  Or square...lol. 

As for doing these on HIV meds, I think most just caution against forgetting to take your meds and not real interactions.  Maybe others can give more info.       

I identify with feeling like I am boring, or a square.  Still, I'm glad there's an open discussion of what people are really doing, or thinking of doing, what the best approach might be, what the consequences could be.  It would be too easy and unrealistic to just say "don't do recreational drugs".

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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2011, 02:35:57 PM »
Please remember night club rule #1: never dance on a raised surface when drunk or high

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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2011, 03:14:23 PM »
Please remember night club rule #1: never dance on a raised surface when drunk or high

Thank you

Or like my mama always said ... never run with a coke spoon in your hand . I think she actually said scissors but I cant remember after so many recreational drugs in my lifetime .   

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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2011, 03:28:21 PM »
Only thinking about x or shrooms. I feel like I'm way to old cocaine, meth, and never anything that involes needles. Oh good god once again way over thinking this. However I am thankful for no snippy comments. Thanks guys and gals
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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2011, 03:29:49 PM »
I knew I should have used a smily face . 

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« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2011, 03:33:47 PM »
Last time I ever smoked weed, a seed popped - scared the shit out of me - so I quit.  ;D
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« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2011, 04:27:22 PM »
I'd love a big smiley face night  :) my first ever, and one of few, involved red satin shorts n old skool trainers, hot music, a photoshoot and, later, 2 hot bloke and things I'd never done before.

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« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2011, 04:37:27 PM »
Mushrooms or LSD if you can get some good blotter acid.   Given Newts info on the time to clear drugs, remember to pace out the shrooms or acid over a few intakes so you can control how high you get.

X in a club ok if thats your thing. But if you're "too old" for certain drugs aren't you too old for "raving" and "x"?

To trip on club music, I want pot and hash.  Just my opinion. 

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« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2011, 04:38:49 PM »
If I had some K I'd do a massive bump right now -- my friend's used to call that a "Barbara Bump" and it was named after me, not someone named Barbara.
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« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2011, 04:43:17 PM »
If I had some K I'd do a massive bump right now -- my friend's used to call that a "Barbara Bump" and it was named after me, not someone named Barbara.

I had a fondness for K a time ago . It was easy to buy in Tijuana and bring home in a water bottle hiding in plain sight .   

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« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2011, 04:47:08 PM »
I just thought it sounded like fun. I haven't touched anything but weed in 10 plus years. Just since the process began just always feel up tight. Thought it would be fun to blow off some steam and feel care free for a night. Once again who better to ask then those who have already done it.  Hell even before testing positive I never dropped and had sex so I know it's not going to happen.  Ps. I really miss getting laid. I haven't gone this long without ever in my life.      :-(. Lol
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« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2011, 04:56:42 PM »
I miss getting laid too but am enjoying doing up me flat. When a decent shag worth me making breakfast comes along, they better have good sunglasses cos the sun streams in of a morning and everything is one or another shade of white (brown bottles aside).

I am happy remembering my old life, enjoying my current one, looking forward to my future, took a long while to get there though.

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« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2011, 05:01:37 PM »
Newt I enjoying reading your post. I just like the way you see things. May I ask how long you have dealt with this because I yearn to get to that point.
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« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2011, 05:17:32 PM »
Diagnosed 2002 or 2003 (I forget) started treatment 18 months-2 years months later. I used to think about HIV all the time but don't now.  Least not in an oppressive way (I am here every day, for example). Sorting treatment was the key. My #1 man (and, erm, for now ex) was diagnosed at 16 and spent 10 years thinking about am I gonna die etc, maybe 6 after 1st time on treatment. It can take a while. Other people's experience will be different.

But in the mean time, there is life :-) (and after, lots of)

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« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2011, 05:44:14 PM »
I skipped the weed and used X as my gateway drug. Then of course the next step was cocaine.

But haven't used anything like that in years.


I had a fondness for K a time ago . It was easy to buy in Tijuana and bring home in a water bottle hiding in plain sight .   
Me and some buddies once scored a half gallon of K from a Veterinarian across the border in Matamoros, also bought a bunch of pinatas and wooden statues to make us look touristy at the checkpoints.  Of course this was before the stepped up Cartel enforcement. Oh, btw, we stopped at a 7-eleven in South Texas and cooked some K up in their microwave on the way back to Austin. Idiots.
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« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2011, 06:05:09 PM »
Wow that's a story.  Lol. 
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« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2011, 06:06:21 PM »
btw, for what it's worth -- if you're having depression issues and do ecstasy you can often waste your money as it will possibly morph into a nasty trip, not a fun smiley one.  Been there.
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« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2011, 06:07:53 PM »
Oh, btw, we stopped at a 7-eleven in South Texas and cooked some K up in their microwave on the way back to Austin. Idiots.

omg, I thought I was the only one who had done that in a 7-11. Mine was in South Beach. I think we went through seven licks that weekend.
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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2011, 12:31:24 AM »
ROFLMAO :D

I had a good laugh at this, too.  Maybe I'll have to take the recommendation.  I've been surprised at people I know who've done all sorts of drugs.  I mean, they just seemed so anti-drug by day, later to find out they did anything they could get their hands on.  My good friend is one of them.  I was very surprised he was doing meth.  He did say he doesn't feel the same after a few years of doing it.  He says it caused him to have depression now.   

I have a friend who lives in Nashville and works in the country music scene.  He claims he's been to parties where country music stars were doing X, cocaine, etc.  No big surprise there.  There is a married music couple who have "Faith" and live on a "Hill" (trying to avoid google), who he claimed he has partied with.  I still think he may be making it up, but suppose if he wanted to make himself seem like he was friends with them, he could have said they go to dinner together.  What I find hypocritical are the people who get so drunk and even drink and drive, but say people who smoke some weed should go to jail.  Alcohol causes way more family problems and deaths.

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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2011, 07:28:55 AM »
Seems to me that drug taking, drug laws and hypocrisy are often joined at the hip.
I took drugs because it was fun and I enjoyed it, now apart from the occasional joint I don,t
Would I if they where offered ? probably not too many health issues, I would be scared and that is not a good starting point.
Do I miss it ?  At times I dribble at the want to put a spring in my step,  talk complete crap , dance , love and be convinced off my all round wonderfullness.
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« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2011, 10:05:28 AM »
Been following this thread and I don't know what in the hell half of it means.  I've mentioned to friends in the past that I'd like to try coke one time before I die and they said I definitely shouldn't because my personality wouldn't be compatible. 

I guess I'm fortunate because the first time I smoked weed in highschool, I hated it!  So I never tried anything else.  But I guess it's time to come out of another closet.  2 years ago when I came down with the crypto, I was so severely sick and suffered horrible wasting.  My younger brother has always been a little pot head and he convinced me to give it a try.  I did it by myself out in the shed and it was awesome.  I now use it fairly frequently as a medicinal thing.   Now I've reached the point where I can take a couple of puffs and go have a drink and enjoy myself. 

I was hitting my little bowl outback one day and didn't know my mother had returned home.  She promptly busted me and I was able to convince her that Dr. Murry had prescribed it for the wasting.  Thank goodness she believed it and she said it needed to be my little secret.  Which in itself isn't surprising.   We were always taught that everything that didn't fit the ideal image was to be kept a secret.
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« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2011, 12:01:46 PM »
I was hitting my little bowl outback one day and didn't know my mother had returned home.  She promptly busted me and I was able to convince her that Dr. Murry had prescribed it for the wasting.  Thank goodness she believed it and she said it needed to be my little secret.  Which in itself isn't surprising.   We were always taught that everything that didn't fit the ideal image was to be kept a secret.

Did you feel like you were back in high school again, getting busted by Mom?  :D

The "keep a secret" thing sounds very much family:  must maintain the image of a perfect / ideal / model family.  Unfortunately, this doesn't teach you that in fact everyone isn't perfect, or how to accept the imperfections in either yourself or others.

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« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2011, 12:52:21 PM »
I suggest setting an alarm you will hear to remind you to take your meds on time....not for pot but for an x or something like it that lasts a long time this will let you relax and not worry about what time it is.
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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2011, 09:19:38 PM »
Apologies, this might be a bit long....
My partner and I were in NYC two weeks ago to cross the border to CT and get married.
While there we had our son UPS us some weed....
The night before we left for home, I packed the bags and tried to get everything in order.
The next morning I looked for the weed so we could give it to a friend, but it was nowhere to be found.
Next we are at the airport going through security and we come upon the big irradiating scanner. Of course I say that I want a pat-down as I will not enter that scanner. I had fun with the security guy and let him know I was queer as pink ink. It was a hoot and he even enjoyed the diversion. When my carry on bags came through the scanner, he looked at them and sent me on my way. Hours later after we landed in our country, I opened my carry on and was knocked over by the smell of pot. Somehow the weed landed in my big Atlantis bag and no one noticed. That could have ended so badly, but instead it was only funny.
I was lucky and luck lasts only so long!

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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2011, 09:27:12 PM »


And to think...we were "this close" to seeing you on that TV show "Locked Up Abroad"  ;D
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« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2011, 09:34:40 PM »

Frau Doktor Hoover ::)


Hmmmmpfff... Hadn't you been advised against this by one of the mods?
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« Reply #50 on: May 24, 2011, 10:24:46 AM »

Hmmmmpfff... Hadn't you been advised against this by one of the mods?

Yes, he has. Several times if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #51 on: May 24, 2011, 10:27:28 AM »
As usual, something went right over my head!  Is there a history with that phrase or something?  Do I need to google it myself?
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« Reply #52 on: May 24, 2011, 10:38:38 AM »
As usual, something went right over my head!  Is there a history with that phrase or something?  Do I need to google it myself?

Hoover has been asked in the past to not represent himself or his partner as a doctor when signing his posts. Doktor is the German spelling of doctor.
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« Reply #53 on: May 24, 2011, 12:46:00 PM »
i don't know why all the sudden, gut thought of Ecstasy, sh rooms, and a few other fun ones have been popping in and out of my head.  Just have a night of clubbing but then realty steps in and i don't know if this is a good thing.  I know for me dropping some ex and going to a rave is a great relief.  Will this be the case or brass myself for a rough ride.  What so you all think
I have a friend and we have had HIV exact same amount of time. He did and continues to drink and drug. I quit right off. He is in and out of hospital. Looks 30 yrs older than I and has nearly died many times yet continues drugging. So its your choice, take care of yourself or not. I enjoy my health.

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« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2011, 12:58:11 PM »
I have a friend and we have had HIV exact same amount of time. He did and continues to drink and drug. I quit right off. He is in and out of hospital. Looks 30 yrs older than I and has nearly died many times yet continues drugging. So its your choice, take care of yourself or not. I enjoy my health.

That's all well and good for you and a pity for your friend. But the OP is wondering about a one off, not becoming a life long partier.
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« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2011, 01:13:44 PM »
I have a friend and we have had HIV exact same amount of time. He did and continues to drink and drug. I quit right off. He is in and out of hospital. Looks 30 yrs older than I and has nearly died many times yet continues drugging. So its your choice, take care of yourself or not. I enjoy my health.

Uh, just recently you said you had had a 15 year addiction to opiates. (though Miss P is happy you are clean now)
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« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2011, 01:23:31 PM »
I'm thinking of doing the new bath salts thing.  Wonder if Bath & Body Works carries them.  Which reminds me, their semi-annual sale starts in 8 days.  Contact their customer service number at 1-800-756-5005 and request a 20% off coupon.  You can use it on top of their already awesome sale prices.
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« Reply #57 on: May 24, 2011, 04:40:46 PM »
I am so doing an E, a tea dress and a jockstrap for Brighton Pride

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« Reply #58 on: May 24, 2011, 05:03:33 PM »
I am so doing an E, a tea dress and a jockstrap for Brighton Pride

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« Reply #59 on: May 24, 2011, 05:31:20 PM »
OK, if I do, deal :-)
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« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2011, 06:04:22 PM »
I took an out-of-town guest to pride when I lived in NYC and he insisted on wearing Calvin Klein underwear (height of craze, early 90's)... I was so mortified.

... here I am years later working a Panama hat and a lot of Prada. Please admire my shirtless Puerto Rican date :) likely high on a potent mixture of crushed/snorted pills and ketamine -- my home brewed specialty.

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« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2011, 06:15:00 PM »
I took an out-of-town guest to pride when I lived in NYC and he insisted on wearing Calvin Klein underwear (height of craze, early 90's)... I was so mortified.

... here I am years later working a Panama hat and a lot of Prada. Please admire my shirtless Puerto Rican date :) likely high on a potent mixture of crushed/snorted pills and ketamine -- my home brewed specialty.



Gasp ... surely that's not you holding a domestic beer . Prada and Budweiser , I do declare whats the world coming to !

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« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2011, 06:18:48 PM »
Gasp ... surely that's not you holding a domestic beer . Prada and Budweiser , I do declare whats the world coming to !

IIRC that's all you could drink in the "open container" pen of the post-parade festivities in the Village that year. I rarely consume beer anyway. So bloating!
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« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2011, 06:23:36 PM »
IIRC that's all you could drink in the "open container" pen of the post-parade festivities in the Village that year. I rarely consume beer anyway. So bloating!

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« Reply #64 on: May 24, 2011, 06:32:42 PM »
I took an out-of-town guest to pride when I lived in NYC and he insisted on wearing Calvin Klein underwear (height of craze, early 90's)... I was so mortified.

... here I am years later working a Panama hat and a lot of Prada. Please admire my shirtless Puerto Rican date :) likely high on a potent mixture of crushed/snorted pills and ketamine -- my home brewed specialty.



That guy sitting between you two does not appear to be having as much fun.  Body language (crossed arms/feet) suggest he is not happy about something that just took place.  Your date has it going on for sure and that little smile on your faces tells me that the day turned into a rather enjoyable evening.

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« Reply #65 on: May 24, 2011, 07:10:14 PM »
That guy sitting between you two does not appear to be having as much fun. 

I think he is entering a K Hole
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« Reply #66 on: May 24, 2011, 08:11:17 PM »
... here I am years later working a Panama hat and a lot of Prada.

And what on earth are you wearing on your feet? So Euroyuckepean. ~gag~
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« Reply #67 on: May 24, 2011, 08:40:29 PM »
And what on earth are you wearing on your feet? So Euroyuckepean. ~gag~

Very fashionable circa 1994.  My ex from that time used to wear those.  I always thought it was a white boy thang.
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« Reply #68 on: May 24, 2011, 08:42:43 PM »
Very fashionable circa 1994.  My ex from that time used to wear those.  I always thought it was a white boy thang.

How can you really see them? They're brown Prada loafers circa '97.
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« Reply #69 on: May 24, 2011, 08:44:50 PM »
How can you really see them? They're brown Prada loafers circa '97.

As if you would wear anything else, didn't need to guess much ::)
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« Reply #70 on: May 24, 2011, 10:25:39 PM »
I so appreciate your guys humor.    Oh and Mecca your right I'm talking about a one off.  Not picking it up like a habit.  I couldn't afford it.  lol
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« Reply #71 on: May 24, 2011, 10:37:53 PM »



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« Reply #72 on: May 25, 2011, 06:57:17 PM »
The more I look at that pic, the more P looks like Boy George to me.
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« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2011, 07:07:49 PM »
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« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2011, 07:08:12 PM »
This photo (much repeated) demonstrates the perils of drugs. children

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« Reply #75 on: May 25, 2011, 07:21:17 PM »
The more I look at that pic, the more P looks like Boy George to me.

You just can't handle my sublime gayness which manifests itself in that posy perching.
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« Reply #76 on: May 25, 2011, 07:22:31 PM »
You just can't handle my sublime gayness which manifests itself in that posy perching.

Of course. That must be it.
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« Reply #77 on: May 25, 2011, 07:24:32 PM »
Of course. That must be it.

All that matters is that I can still pull down a piece like that Puerto Rican while still prancing in that outfit. "win win"
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« Reply #78 on: May 25, 2011, 07:25:13 PM »
So... what happened to that big chair?

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« Reply #79 on: May 25, 2011, 07:29:53 PM »
So... what happened to that big chair?

It was one of those things you paid someone to sit in, then they took your pictar and put it in a "picture greeting card" and then over-charged you for it all. Pride celebrations in NYC are sophisticated affairs!

btw, one reason I was dressed up a bit is that in true Carrie Bradshaw fashion I had arranged a pre-Pride brunch at Odeon in Tribeca. Alas those other girls didn't do their part and left me swinging in the breeze.
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« Reply #80 on: May 25, 2011, 09:00:57 PM »
I've looked at this photo many times now and can't help looking at the young in up front, obviously not happy about something.  I like the confidence of the young cock sucker mature lad on the right.


edited;  After checking him, I now wonder if I was as hot as I thought I was or if I was just a slut.  He has the look of yeah, I am in charge.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #81 on: May 25, 2011, 09:11:27 PM »
He was definitely "in charge" when I took him wearing leather chaps to the Black Party that year. Oh, and did I mention his last name was "de Jesus"? Sadly I've lost track of him over the years.
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« Reply #82 on: May 25, 2011, 11:16:48 PM »
What would Nancy Reagan say about all this drug talk?  Come on guys.  Just say NO!

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« Reply #83 on: May 25, 2011, 11:19:15 PM »
What would Nancy Reagan say about all this drug talk?  Come on guys.  Just say NO!

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« Reply #84 on: May 26, 2011, 12:12:33 AM »
I think he is entering a K Hole

I think someone has first hand experience with that :o 

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« Reply #85 on: May 26, 2011, 06:43:49 AM »

What's it like? Do tell...

Imagine feeling like you are dead but still having to vomit. Kind of like being in an eerie black nothingness with lots of vomitus shooting out of you. So pretty.
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #86 on: May 26, 2011, 08:34:10 AM »
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« Reply #87 on: May 26, 2011, 08:54:38 AM »
The first time I experienced a K hole I freaked out . I was lying on a sofa and I couldn't move or speak wondering if I was going to be like that forever . Then I remembered that K is an animal tranquilizer and I freaked out some more thinking about the kitty cats and puppies having surgery and being paralyzed but completely aware they are being cut on and unable to do anything about it .

I swore if I could wake up I would never do K again . I woke up and snorted a bigger line right away . I like the smell of it . 

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« Reply #88 on: May 26, 2011, 09:08:04 AM »
How's come I don't seem to know what people are talking about on so many posts?  What the heck is a K hole?

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« Reply #89 on: May 26, 2011, 09:11:42 AM »
How's come I don't seem to know what people are talking about on so many posts?  What the heck is a K hole?



K is short for Ketimine an animal tranquilizer , if you snort it you will get high , if you snort a bit too much you sedate yourself and go into what people call a K hole where you are sedated but aware of whats going on around you .  

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« Reply #90 on: May 26, 2011, 09:20:04 AM »
K is short for Ketimine an animal tranquilizer , if you snort it you will get high , if you snort a bit too much you sedate yourself and go into what people call a K hole where you are sedated but aware of whats going on around you .  

Then what's the point of doing it if you can't reach your cocktail?  Lordy, I sure have lived in my little gay bubble too long. 
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« Reply #91 on: May 26, 2011, 09:31:07 AM »
Then what's the point of doing it if you can't reach your cocktail?  Lordy, I sure have lived in my little gay bubble too long. 

Its not something I would want to do again . When I was younger I liked to experiment but I started to look like a mad scientist so I had to dial it back a little .

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« Reply #92 on: May 26, 2011, 09:34:47 AM »
When I was younger I liked to experiment but I started to look like a mad scientist so I had to dial it back a little .

When I was growing up, we called people who experimented with anything available "garbage heads". ;D

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« Reply #93 on: May 26, 2011, 09:41:08 AM »
When I was growing up, we called people who experimented with anything available "garbage heads". ;D

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« Reply #94 on: May 26, 2011, 09:46:52 AM »
Ok since we are defining things what is the black hole? Is it the same as the K hole? 

Back when Key West was still gay, I remember people talking about falling down the black hole. Never knew what it was but it sounded scary.

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« Reply #95 on: May 26, 2011, 09:52:00 AM »
The first time I experienced a K hole I freaked out . I was lying on a sofa and I couldn't move or speak wondering if I was going to be like that forever . Then I remembered that K is an animal tranquilizer and I freaked out some more thinking about the kitty cats and puppies having surgery and being paralyzed but completely aware they are being cut on and unable to do anything about it .


That's precisely the type of experience I would have on that crap.  And I do NOT like the smell or taste of it.  As an enhancer for things like X, sure.  On it's own, no use for it whatsoever. 
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« Reply #96 on: May 26, 2011, 10:02:58 AM »
K is short for Ketimine an animal tranquilizer , if you snort it you will get high , if you snort a bit too much you sedate yourself and go into what people call a K hole where you are sedated but aware of whats going on around you . 

A proper K-hole is a complete out-of-body-experience. I've completely floated on the ceiling, or found myself in another room with glass wall, etc. It's a sensation unlike any other drug.
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« Reply #97 on: May 26, 2011, 10:03:25 AM »
That's precisely the type of experience I would have on that crap.  And I do NOT like the smell or taste of it.  As an enhancer for things like X, sure.  On it's own, no use for it whatsoever. 

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« Reply #98 on: May 26, 2011, 10:04:20 AM »
We called them burn outs .

Where I lived, burn-outs were mainly those of us people who were constantly high on pot. Garbage heads were people who tried any drug that we they could get our their hands on.
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« Reply #99 on: May 26, 2011, 10:10:47 AM »
A proper K-hole is a complete out-of-body-experience. I've completely floated on the ceiling, or found myself in another room with glass wall, etc. It's a sensation unlike any other drug.

I remember one time watching Saving Private Ryan while doing K . The opening scene where they were landing on the beach was so intense , I actually felt like I was there ... when that scene ended my friend and I were all wrapped up in each others arms without even realizing it .     

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« Reply #100 on: May 26, 2011, 10:23:36 AM »
Once when I had sex I was in a K-hole (I needed to get high for this guy so I didn't have to look at him) he started to fuck me and I halted him and said I felt like I'd become Jody Foster in Contact.
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« Reply #101 on: May 26, 2011, 10:25:23 AM »
n00b


Wow.  I haven't been called something like that in a context like this in so long, it's almost flattering.  Sort of like being mistaken for a virgin again or something.
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« Reply #102 on: May 26, 2011, 10:37:32 AM »
I remember one time watching Saving Private Ryan while doing K . The opening scene where they were landing on the beach was so intense , I actually felt like I was there ... when that scene ended my friend and I were all wrapped up in each others arms without even realizing it .     

ROFLMAO. yes! We did some K and watched independence day, We lived the movie.  We WERE the movie. But For some unknown reason I took on the personna of the President of the United States and was ordering a bunch of weird shit, like nuking Australia. We were all huddled on the couch go over battle plans.
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« Reply #103 on: May 26, 2011, 10:43:07 AM »
ROFLMAO. yes! We did some K and watched independence day, We lived the movie.  We WERE the movie. But For some unknown reason I took on the personna of the President of the United States and was ordering a bunch of weird shit, like nuking Australia. We were all huddled on the couch go over battle plans.

I'm glad somebody understands .... We WERE the movie is so true , I really felt like I was on those landing craft being shot at . For a time after that we had K night at the movies at ricks house every Monday .

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« Reply #104 on: May 26, 2011, 10:47:03 AM »
Watching full length movies while on drugs? What a waste. I'm so glad I was a NYC faggot.
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« Reply #105 on: May 26, 2011, 10:49:02 AM »
I'm so glad I was a NYC faggot.

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« Reply #106 on: May 26, 2011, 10:58:54 AM »
Watching full length movies while on drugs? What a waste. I'm so glad I was a NYC faggot.

I was living in Chicago and San Diego at the time thank you . I was bi- coastal if you count lake Michigan as a coast  :)

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« Reply #107 on: May 26, 2011, 11:01:32 AM »
Watching full length movies while on drugs? What a waste. I'm so glad I was a NYC faggot.

We always did it when we got home after the clubs. Rarely would I see someone on K at the bars, although when you did you could spot them a mile away with those "K-Steps" it was as if they thought the bar was a massive maze of stairsteps.

I accidentally did a huge hit of K on a saturday night at Boyz Cellar (thought it was coke till I got that vanilla taste in my throat), they found me in the DJ booth in a trash can.  ::)
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Re: recreational drugs while on meds??
« Reply #108 on: May 26, 2011, 11:11:11 AM »
I accidentally did a huge hit of K on a saturday night at Boyz Cellar

The Boyz Cellar on 4th St in Austin?  Careful, Wumpy, you are dating yourself.   :-*

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(thought it was coke till I got that vanilla taste in my throat), they found me in the DJ booth in a trash can.  ::)

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« Reply #109 on: May 26, 2011, 11:17:26 AM »
In my neck of the woods, burnouts were the extreme stoners.  Which was about the worst drug around in them there days.
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« Reply #110 on: May 26, 2011, 11:19:35 AM »
The Boyz Cellar on 4th St in Austin?  Careful, Wumpy, you are dating yourself.   :-*

Classy! ;)


Oh dear, this was probably when he was still married and producing offspring. No wonder he needed heavy drugs.
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« Reply #111 on: May 26, 2011, 11:20:09 AM »
But For some unknown reason I took on the personna of the President of the United States and was ordering a bunch of weird shit, like nuking Australia.

I have to ask - did you by chance know Matty when this was going on?
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« Reply #112 on: May 26, 2011, 11:38:54 AM »
Where I lived, burn-outs were mainly those of us people who were constantly high on pot. Garbage heads were people who tried any drug that we they could get our their hands on.

Guilty as charged and sometimes the old days were the good old days. My personal favorites were Columbian Red and Hawaiian Gold with tie-stick coated with angel dust my all time favorite. Hash oil used to be a favorite, until I broke a vial in my jeans and spent the night boiling the jeans to get the oil out. But my absolute weakness was for LSD, particularly windowpane, but blotter or microdot would do in a pinch.

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« Reply #113 on: May 26, 2011, 05:51:39 PM »
Oh dear, this was probably when he was still married and producing offspring. No wonder he needed heavy drugs.

Nah, this was like 10 years ago which was a couple years post poontang.

and Henry, I know you made a few rounds in there with your shirt off :)

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I have to ask - did you by chance know Matty when this was going on?

No, this was long before I caught the chute-flu. But apparently I've always had it out for Australia.
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« Reply #114 on: May 26, 2011, 06:20:37 PM »

and Henry, I know you made a few rounds in there with your shirt off :)


They don't let hairy guys like me take off their shirts in twink bars like Boyz Cellar was.  I'd promptly be escorted out.

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« Reply #115 on: May 26, 2011, 06:36:59 PM »
Imagine feeling like you are dead but still having to vomit. Kind of like being in an eerie black nothingness with lots of vomitus shooting out of you. So pretty.

Damn, that sounds like the last time I had sex.
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« Reply #116 on: May 26, 2011, 06:45:35 PM »
You all make me feel like I missed out on something.  I wanta know the feeling of being poked in the A hole while in a K hole and all that other fun sounding shit.  No wonder Bill and I fell out of the loop early on, we were freaking boring. :-\
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« Reply #117 on: May 26, 2011, 06:58:26 PM »
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« Reply #118 on: May 26, 2011, 10:02:12 PM »
I used to roll on E and party for days on end like a rock star but seemed to out grow it. After diagnosis I completely changed my life 180 degrees and focus on my health now. I would be dead very fast if I were to continue to party like "I" did. However I have fond memories of good times and once in a lifetime moments.
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« Reply #119 on: May 27, 2011, 08:27:24 AM »
The only drug I every enjoyed getting messy on is booze.  "Designer" drugs should be used with chic.  

And booze is only fun in the messy phase before the last stage, sick and black out.  Then its no fun, either.

The worst is doing drugs with people who get messy.

Speaking of NYC faggot. What I learned in my twenties in the 80s is the above.  Don't get messy.  

Also, leave the party while it's still good.  

And never stick around a bar or club until last call.

When I moved to Europe I was surprised how polluted adults get in public and in private with friends, family, colleagues.   Blotto.  Booze, drugs, whatever.    Hey, its a free world, whatever...  
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« Reply #120 on: May 27, 2011, 02:12:12 PM »
Once when I had sex I was in a K-hole (I needed to get high for this guy so I didn't have to look at him) he started to fuck me and I halted him and said I felt like I'd become Jody Foster in Contact.

This is possibly the funniest thing I've ever read.

I mean how do you respond to that?  "Umm, ok?"  "Shut up" "I'm out, peace"

All of those seem like viable responses.  The fact that you felt that was relevant to the sexual act taking place is even funnier.

 


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