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Author Topic: 4 Days of PrEP is enough for prevention  (Read 587 times)

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Offline zettainaoru

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4 Days of PrEP is enough for prevention
« on: October 30, 2014, 02:22:39 AM »
http://www.advocate.com/31-days-prep/2014/10/29/study-shows-demand-prep-drastically-reduce-hiv-infection

So... 2 days before and 2 days after barebacking is enough for prevention.
Nice.


Offline mecch

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Re: 4 Days of PrEP is enough for prevention
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2014, 03:48:20 AM »
Thats your only take away?
By the way, its good news.  People already suspected this and have used Truvada as such.
By the way, its a shit storm. 
Its going to prevent some transmissions - that is why its good.
But tease out some of the possible downsides.

For example, someone is HIV+ and doesn't know it. Takes their Truvada 4 days every other weekend for 2 or 3 months.  not nice.
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

Offline zettainaoru

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Re: 4 Days of PrEP is enough for prevention
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2014, 04:25:37 AM »
Yeah, there is that risk.
Just Hope people check themselves first before taking it.
They should put it on the label.

But, Truvada (Tenofovir/FTC) stay in the blood not for long. Unlike nevirapine and Efavirens which stays for weeks.
So, I think resistance would be lesser to happen, since stop at once. Even if someone has HIV.


It is very nice for serodiscordant couple like mine.

Offline mecch

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Re: 4 Days of PrEP is enough for prevention
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2014, 07:03:29 AM »
Wouldn't the negative person in a serodiscordant couple just take it permanently?
I mean depending on the sex life...  ::)  :(
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

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Re: 4 Days of PrEP is enough for prevention
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2014, 07:08:15 AM »
I am pro- PREP and I even like this new research finding.

However, I do often see the pros and cons and I do believe the argument of the "cautionists"  who see PREP as a permit to bareback, for some of the potential market at least.

If I were on the board of a company that makes HEP C treatment, I would love this PREP news - because people are going to use it to bareback. (People will be counselled to use it with condoms, but some will obviously ignore that.)

Since the HEP C cure costs so much, it will be a long time before HEP C is wiped out.  So there will be many more HEP C cases and, thinking like a capitalist, there will be that many more billions of profits on STD treatments.  nice
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

Offline AusShep

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Re: 4 Days of PrEP is enough for prevention
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2014, 01:12:01 PM »
This is good news.  I agree with Mecch that Hep C, and resistance as well as failures due to people trying to time doses is a concern.

Does PEP really need to be for 30 days? Think of the cost and ability to offer it to more people if 2 weeks or even 1 is sufficient if you start right away...

Offline mecch

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Re: 4 Days of PrEP is enough for prevention
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2014, 06:28:02 PM »
I am in favour of PREP because we shouldn't penalise responsible people because other people are irresponsible.  that what I dont get about the anti-prep people.
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

 


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