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Offline nervoustwat

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Another Oral Risk Question
« on: April 19, 2011, 07:43:46 PM »
Gay male here.  Great partner, semi-open relationship.  And for the record, I do not have anal sex at all (in or out of the relationship.) 

Over the last couple months I gave and received head from maybe 5 different guys (strangers).  The incident I'm most concerned about happened about 4 weeks ago.  I only received head from this guy at a park in his car, but at the end of the BJ, I noticed some blood in the saliva at the base of my penis.  I pretty much freaked out and have been nervous since.  I kick myself for not leaving midway through the BJ when he took a break to take a puff on some sort of drug pipe.  (Meth maybe?)  STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!  I know you guys have said (repeatedly) that getting a BJ is zero risk, but I can't help but worry about the blood.

A week ago (so about 3 weeks after) I started with pretty heavy cold/flu symptoms.  Congestion, sore throat, lots of coughing, then fever, nausea, lost appetite, mild diarrhea.  Lasted about a week.  Still have the cough.  Needless to say, now I am a complete basket case with worry.  Both for me and my partner. 

Question 1.  What's my overall risk from the single BJ and the mutual head from the other situations?

Question 2.  Any thoughts on the "symptoms"

Question 3.  I will try to wait to the 3 month mark to get tested, but what is the earliest I could be tested (Rapid test) and be fairly certain of the results?  (IE:  If my symptoms were due to conversion, how long after that until antibodies would be detectable by an OraQuick Advance?)

Thanks so much for your time.


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Re: Another Oral Risk Question
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 07:49:19 PM »
No matter what details you throw into the blowjob experience including blood, there has never been a single confirmed case of transmission to a guy through getting sucked off. Not one and it's safe to say that you aren't going to make history by becoming the first.

Whatever you are experiencing symptomatically is something to discuss with your doctor if it continues. Whatever that is about has nothing to do with HIV. No testing is necessary nor do you have to bother yourself any further about HIV in relation to this incident. For you testing would only be for your peace of mind because you have not had a genuine risk.

If you're going to test you should not do it at less than 6 weeks. IF you had a genuine risk, (which you didn't), by 6 weeks all but the very smallest number of those who are going to seroconvert will have done so.
Andy Velez

Offline nervoustwat

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Re: Another Oral Risk Question
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 08:18:28 PM »
Yeah, Yeah, I know.  I get it.  I just can't get the streak of blood, the timing of the symptoms nor the symptoms themselves out of my head.  Just make this immediate, morbid, panicked association of them all being connected. 

Surely, if his undiluted blood made any kind of direct contact with my urethra  . . . ?

And the sero-discordant studies you guys refer to . . . Aren't the HIV pos partners likely on meds?  With a much lower or even undetectable viral load?  I doubt the crack head who sucked me is taking care of himself the same way. 

Offline Andy Velez

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Re: Another Oral Risk Question
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 08:21:14 PM »
Fortunately doubts and fears aren't facts.

And whether your mind is going to accept it or not, getting a blow job is not a risk for HIV transmission. Period.

Andy Velez

Offline nervoustwat

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Re: Another Oral Risk Question
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 08:25:58 PM »
Thanks Andy for the REALLY quick replies.

I understand.  It's me (and partner) who have to live and deal with my anxiety.  I promise to come back and "prove you right" once we get our test results.

Regards,

Offline nervoustwat

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Re: Another Oral Risk Question
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2011, 10:58:05 AM »
Follow up question:

I read in another post where Ann used the term "meth mouth".  If the guy had this condition, couldn't there have been a significant risk to me?


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Re: Another Oral Risk Question
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2011, 11:12:43 AM »
Twat,

No, meth mouth would only increase the risk factor of the owner of the meth mouth, not you.

Ann
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Offline nervoustwat

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Re: Another Oral Risk Question
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2011, 11:59:02 AM »
Ann, glad to hear from you. 

I keep hearing all this, really I do.  Just can't imagine that the presence of actual blood (even diluted by saliva) couldn't pose a risk to my urethra?

Timing of my flu-like illness is particularly troubling.

And the sero-discordant studies seem to explore sexual activities in a MUCH less risky environment. 

One other question/ comment: 

Why don't more posters come back to post their test results?  Some do of course, but it seems many threads just go silent.  I wonder if there isn't something in the welcome section or in the moderators' replies that could be said to encourage more of this?  It would be helpful to see more neg results at the end of people's threads.  Otherwise nervoustwats like me might assume these people are starting new threads in the "I just tested poz" forum.

Thanks,

Twat

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Re: Another Oral Risk Question
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2011, 12:06:30 PM »
Twat,

Somewhere around 95% of the people who post in this forum never had a risk in the first place and there's no good reason for them to return to tell us what we already know - that they're hiv negative.

If you cannot bring yourself to believe what we tell you, then there's only one thing for it. Go test, collect your negative result and get on with your life.

It's as simple as that.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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