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Offline hadasinparis

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Bearback sex backed away
« on: April 18, 2011, 03:02:19 PM »
Hi


I met a very handsome guy ...I had a crush for him..the looks of Ashton Kutcher...He was begging to have bareback sex with me...I refused ..I refused ...And G.d knows how it is difficult to resist .I did not tell him the reason why I refused ...And he left me...


Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 03:52:27 PM »
Well dearie, we're all dutifully impressed that you can pull in tricks at that lofty caliber of Ashton Kutcher.  But you know, you could have just told him to use a condom.

And let me guess -- internet profile of dubious, unverifiable stats or a dark corner in the local sex club? :)  You could also have just told him you were HIV+ and guess what, he most likely would have said he was too. ::)
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Offline thunter34

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 04:07:20 PM »
The last time someone begged me for bareback sex, I backed away, too.

I backed a way deep down on that dick.
AIDS isn't for sissies.

Offline drewm

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 04:09:44 PM »
Damn, I would take Ashton Kutcher or someone who looked like him bare any day!  :P :P :P
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 04:10:19 PM »
Mrs Phil


He did not want any condoms at all!!!..And if  he was poz also...It didn' t matter ....I don't want to get syph ..etc....Well ...The good thing about it..He gave  me erotic dreams......I saw him naked...Oman

Offline DanMo

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 04:13:57 PM »
Shortly after getting diagnosed, I met up with this guy. I was feeling down so, it made me happy someone would want to hook up with me. I told him I was poz (he was neg).

So when I get to his place, I pull out a condom and he said, "let's just bareback"... I refused. But he was so insistent he wanted to bareback. So, I caved in after a while of him convincing me that he didn't care (I know, I know, bad decision). Any way, I immediately felt bad and pulled out like a minute later.

That was my first situation of having sex after being diagnosed. It really made me feel weird how nonchalant he was about it. I haven't spoken to him since. Good guy though, we spent some time talking about HIV and stuff.
I tried to drown my sorrows, but the bastards learned how to swim, and now I am overwhelmed by this decent and good feeling. Frida Kahlo

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Offline denb45

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2011, 04:18:14 PM »
The last time someone begged me for bareback sex, I backed away, too.

I backed a way deep down on that dick.

 :D I'd never say no, after full disclosure w/ consenting adults, however I do pull out before I cum  ;D
if I do end up w/ some STD it's my own dam fault for not wearing a condom , luck of the draw, it happens ;)
« Last Edit: April 18, 2011, 04:24:00 PM by denb45 »
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2011, 04:44:19 PM »
Mrs Phil


He did not want any condoms at all!!!..And if  he was poz also...It didn' t matter ....I don't want to get syph ..etc....Well ...The good thing about it..He gave  me erotic dreams......I saw him naked...Oman

Well ... looks like you got fucked anyway ... out of a good time  ;)

Offline denb45

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2011, 04:49:15 PM »
Well ... looks like you got fucked anyway ... out of a good time  ;)

 :D :D :D ahh don't worry there will be lots of other sex partners  ;D enjoy it while you can  ;)
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2011, 07:22:18 PM »
So when I get to his place, I pull out a condom and he said, "let's just bareback"... I refused. But he was so insistent he wanted to bareback. So, I caved in after a while of him convincing me that he didn't care (I know, I know, bad decision). Any way, I immediately felt bad and pulled out like a minute later.


That's some wacky shit. Maybe he was a chaser.

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Offline denb45

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2011, 07:27:37 PM »
That's some wacky shit. Maybe he was a chaser.

-W

Now we all know that there is no such thing as a chaser, that's like saying you saw a UFO, but you cannot prove it  :D
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 07:29:54 PM »
Now we all know that there is no such thing as a chaser,

It seems I missed that memo.

btw, I've seen a UFO
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Offline drewm

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 07:30:03 PM »
That's some wacky shit. Maybe he was a chaser.

-W

?

What is a chaser?
« Last Edit: April 18, 2011, 07:31:35 PM by drewm »
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Offline DanMo

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 07:35:47 PM »
That's some wacky shit. Maybe he was a chaser.

-W

He wasn't a chaser... at least I don't think so. He told me that he gets tested and wants to stay negative. But that he does go out and get barebacked a lot (that's why he didn't care about barebacking, said if he didn't catch it from me he'd catch it from someone else... but that he hoped he didn't get it... I know weird logic).

Drew: from what I understand, a chaser is a person who intentionally has unprotected sex, especially with a known poz, in order to get infected himself.
I tried to drown my sorrows, but the bastards learned how to swim, and now I am overwhelmed by this decent and good feeling. Frida Kahlo

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07 Mar 11 - Inconclusive WB
14 Mar 11 - Diagnosed positive
05 Apr 11 - 355 (21%) / VL: 186,054
27 Apr 11 - 390 (20%) / VL: 285,095
06 Jun 11 - 298 (19%) / VL:  78,380
01 Aug 11 - > STARTED ATRIPLA <
30 Aug 11 - 699 (31%) / VL: 1,938
03 Nov 11 -                / VL: 645
27 Dec 11 - 559 (35%) / VL: 1,189
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2011, 07:36:49 PM »
That's some wacky shit. Maybe he was a chaser.

-W

Or a poz person pretending to be a chaser -- and yes, we've caught someone who was a member here doing just that on adam4adam!
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2011, 07:38:54 PM »
He wasn't a chaser... at least I don't think so. He told me that he gets tested and wants to stay negative. But that he does go out and get barebacked a lot (that's why he didn't care about barebacking, said if he didn't catch it from me he'd catch it from someone else... but that he hoped he didn't get it... I know weird logic).

Drew: from what I understand, a chaser is a person who intentionally has unprotected sex, especially with a known poz, in order to get infected himself.

Which pretty much sums up the person you met.
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Offline drewm

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2011, 07:40:26 PM »
Thank you Miss Philicia and DanMo.  :)
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Offline denb45

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2011, 07:40:57 PM »
He wasn't a chaser... at least I don't think so. He told me that he gets tested and wants to stay negative. But that he does go out and get barebacked a lot (that's why he didn't care about barebacking, said if he didn't catch it from me he'd catch it from someone else... but that he hoped he didn't get it... I know weird logic).

Drew: from what I understand, a chaser is a person who intentionally has unprotected sex, especially with a known poz, in order to get infected himself.

Well, I know neg guys that like to bareback, and have done so for yrs. but the one's I know always pull it out before the cum, and they have remained neg for yrs. chasers NO, the only way to get teh AIDS is to have a POZ Top to shoot it in your ass thur unprotected sex, it's just common knowledge and everyone in here know this  ;)
« Last Edit: April 18, 2011, 07:44:21 PM by denb45 »
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Offline buginme2

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2011, 07:42:27 PM »
?

What is a chaser?
I've heard of a chubby chaser...Is that the same thing?

Sounds like he was practicaly begging for it!  I knew that Ashton was a kinky F*cker
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Offline thunter34

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2011, 07:45:59 PM »
Or a poz person pretending to be a chaser -- and yes, we've caught someone who was a member here doing just that on adam4adam!


There are people tip toeing around the web doing all sorts of stuff.  We've had the faux chaser, we've had the deliberate bug giver and even currently someone here who I rather think of as a real bug chaser.

I mean...if you're circling around here for years as a neggie while trying to flirt and hit on the pozzies, what else is someone supposed to think?
AIDS isn't for sissies.

Offline denb45

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2011, 07:48:43 PM »

There are people tip toeing around the web doing all sorts of stuff.  We've had the faux chaser, we've had the deliberate bug giver and even currently someone here who I rather think of as a real bug chaser.

I mean...if you're circling around here for years as a neggie while trying to flirt and hit on the pozzies, what else is someone supposed to think?
:D I doubt there are any negs circling around here looking for some POZ dick  :D
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2011, 07:51:58 PM »

if you're circling around here for years as a neggie while trying to flirt and hit on the pozzies, what else is someone supposed to think?

XXXactly... I don't get it.  At all.
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Offline Jeff G

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2011, 07:52:19 PM »
:D I doubt there are any negs circling around here looking for some POZ dick  :D

Dont be so sure , I think there may one in the mix .

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2011, 07:53:47 PM »
Which pretty much sums up the person you met.

It's weird cause, he didn't *want* to get get infected... his reasoning for not wanting to bareback was that he didn't like condoms.
I tried to drown my sorrows, but the bastards learned how to swim, and now I am overwhelmed by this decent and good feeling. Frida Kahlo

11 Feb 2011 - Preliminary positive
07 Mar 11 - Inconclusive WB
14 Mar 11 - Diagnosed positive
05 Apr 11 - 355 (21%) / VL: 186,054
27 Apr 11 - 390 (20%) / VL: 285,095
06 Jun 11 - 298 (19%) / VL:  78,380
01 Aug 11 - > STARTED ATRIPLA <
30 Aug 11 - 699 (31%) / VL: 1,938
03 Nov 11 -                / VL: 645
27 Dec 11 - 559 (35%) / VL: 1,189
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09 Apr 12 - 686 (40%) / VL: UD
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Offline denb45

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2011, 07:54:34 PM »
XXXactly... I don't get it.  At all.

Now maybe in Manhunt or Adam 4 Adam, but the funny about that is, they all got teh AIDS , if they say they don't, you know it's a LIE  :D
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2011, 07:54:52 PM »
It's weird cause, he didn't *want* to get get infected... his reasoning for not wanting to bareback was that he didn't like condoms.

That's what he said.  People say a lot of things they don't really mean.

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2011, 07:56:46 PM »
Besides who >Likes< condoms??

Why does it bother you? 
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Offline denb45

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2011, 07:57:34 PM »
That's what he said.  People say a lot of things they don't really mean.

Maybe he likes to pull out, guys do like that you know  ;)
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2011, 07:58:36 PM »
Maybe he likes to pull out, guys do like that you know  ;)

He didn't even care if I came inside him.
I tried to drown my sorrows, but the bastards learned how to swim, and now I am overwhelmed by this decent and good feeling. Frida Kahlo

11 Feb 2011 - Preliminary positive
07 Mar 11 - Inconclusive WB
14 Mar 11 - Diagnosed positive
05 Apr 11 - 355 (21%) / VL: 186,054
27 Apr 11 - 390 (20%) / VL: 285,095
06 Jun 11 - 298 (19%) / VL:  78,380
01 Aug 11 - > STARTED ATRIPLA <
30 Aug 11 - 699 (31%) / VL: 1,938
03 Nov 11 -                / VL: 645
27 Dec 11 - 559 (35%) / VL: 1,189
11 Jan 12 -                 / VL: <20
09 Apr 12 - 686 (40%) / VL: UD
11 Jul 12 - 793 (37%) / VL: 25

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2011, 08:00:30 PM »
He didn't even care if I came inside him.

Oh, I think he did, if he was NEG, Trust me, I know  :D he might have teh aids and not even know it...or maybe an STD, even tho you were inside him, for a short time, you can still get an STD...
« Last Edit: April 18, 2011, 08:02:42 PM by denb45 »
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2011, 08:03:50 PM »
Oh, I think he did, if he was NEG, Trust me, I know  :D he might have teh aids and not even know it...

Yeah, I know... at the time I really wasn't thinking much. He seemed pretty adamant that he was neg though, always gets tested, blah blah blah. I just find it weird how someone would lie about it with someone else who was poz...

He had this whole theory on how by using a ton of saliva and then immediately expelling the cum from his ass was sufficient protection. He really talked me into it, but as I said, I felt bad at the prospect of possibly infecting him.
I tried to drown my sorrows, but the bastards learned how to swim, and now I am overwhelmed by this decent and good feeling. Frida Kahlo

11 Feb 2011 - Preliminary positive
07 Mar 11 - Inconclusive WB
14 Mar 11 - Diagnosed positive
05 Apr 11 - 355 (21%) / VL: 186,054
27 Apr 11 - 390 (20%) / VL: 285,095
06 Jun 11 - 298 (19%) / VL:  78,380
01 Aug 11 - > STARTED ATRIPLA <
30 Aug 11 - 699 (31%) / VL: 1,938
03 Nov 11 -                / VL: 645
27 Dec 11 - 559 (35%) / VL: 1,189
11 Jan 12 -                 / VL: <20
09 Apr 12 - 686 (40%) / VL: UD
11 Jul 12 - 793 (37%) / VL: 25

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2011, 08:04:36 PM »
It's weird cause, he didn't *want* to get get infected... his reasoning for not wanting to bareback was that he didn't like condoms.

I've encountered this before - and have BEEN this before at times.  And btw, Dan:  I know it's kind of an experience - what with you being newly diagnosed and all, but I appreciate your honesty about struggling with it and actually surrendering for a time.  

One of the most tiresome things for me on here is how many try to prop this "Oh, how cooooould you?" posture while they wag their fingers.

You could the same way most all of us could - the same way we did.  It's human.  And the heat of passion is a tricky time to make solid academic decisions, so I'm not going to give you much grief about your experience.

It's hardly the same thing as outright gift giving.  Not to me, anyway.
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2011, 08:04:42 PM »
It's weird cause, he didn't *want* to get get infected... his reasoning for not wanting to bareback was that he didn't like condoms.

So if I told you I didn't want to be run over by a truck and then stood in the middle of 70 mph traffic on the freeway you wouldn't think I was trying to kill myself?  Okeydokey.
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2011, 08:06:38 PM »
Yeah, I know... at the time I really wasn't thinking much. He seemed pretty adamant that he was neg though, always gets tested, blah blah blah. I just find it weird how someone would lie about it with someone else who was poz...

He had this whole theory on how by using a ton of saliva and then immediately expelling the cum from his ass was sufficient protection. He really talked me into it, but as I said, I felt bad at the prospect of possibly infecting him.

Well, I'd be more worried about an STD if I were you  ;) this person probably had aids and LIED to you to get you to Top him, some people will try ANYTHING to get fucked ;D
« Last Edit: April 18, 2011, 08:09:21 PM by denb45 »
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2011, 08:10:17 PM »
I have had guys that claimed to be neg ask me not to use a condom ... I have never had one of those guys leave because I put one on before I fucked them though , problem solved . 

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2011, 08:11:50 PM »
Well, I'd be more worried about an STD if I were you  ;) this person probably had aids and LIED to you to get you to Top him, some people will try ANYTHING to get fucked ;D

I told him I was poz though! Why the need to lie? LOL
I tried to drown my sorrows, but the bastards learned how to swim, and now I am overwhelmed by this decent and good feeling. Frida Kahlo

11 Feb 2011 - Preliminary positive
07 Mar 11 - Inconclusive WB
14 Mar 11 - Diagnosed positive
05 Apr 11 - 355 (21%) / VL: 186,054
27 Apr 11 - 390 (20%) / VL: 285,095
06 Jun 11 - 298 (19%) / VL:  78,380
01 Aug 11 - > STARTED ATRIPLA <
30 Aug 11 - 699 (31%) / VL: 1,938
03 Nov 11 -                / VL: 645
27 Dec 11 - 559 (35%) / VL: 1,189
11 Jan 12 -                 / VL: <20
09 Apr 12 - 686 (40%) / VL: UD
11 Jul 12 - 793 (37%) / VL: 25

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2011, 08:12:51 PM »
So if I told you I didn't want to be run over by a truck and then stood in the middle of 70 mph traffic on the freeway you wouldn't think I was trying to kill myself?  Okeydokey.

Actually, I understand this sort of thing.  I didn't outright want  infection, but I made all sorts of mental gymnastics in my pursuit of sex.  It's not taking into account the potential for say...drugs, alcohol, sex addiction or any number of psychological / emotional issues that can make people rationalize all sorts of behavior.
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2011, 08:15:12 PM »
Actually, I understand this sort of thing.  I didn't outright want  infection, but I made all sorts of mental gymnastics in my pursuit of sex.  It's not taking into account the potential for say...drugs, alcohol, sex addiction or any number of psychological / emotional issues that can make people rationalize all sorts of behavior.

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2011, 08:18:43 PM »
So if I told you I didn't want to be run over by a truck and then stood in the middle of 70 mph traffic on the freeway you wouldn't think I was trying to kill myself?  Okeydokey.

I'm only going on what he actually told me. His goal wasn't to get infected. He just didn't like the feeling condoms inside him and he liked getting shot up.
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2011, 08:20:01 PM »
I made a thread in here about a month ago that was about all the head trip stuff going on with me while I was doing exactly this sort of thing.

A thread that almost no one in this entire forum - moderators included - responded to at all.

As much as we would want this stuff to be simple, it isn't.
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2011, 08:21:11 PM »
I'm only going on what he actually told me. His goal wasn't to get infected. He just didn't like the feeling condoms inside him and he liked getting shot up.

"Shot up"?  Are you referring to a load in the ass, or are you referring to injecting crystal?

If it's crystal, that solves this puzzle.
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2011, 08:21:42 PM »
I'm only going on what he actually told me. His goal wasn't to get infected. He just didn't like the feeling condoms inside him and he liked getting shot up.

I hope you don't believe everything some guy tells you just cuz he wants it up the ass, come on now, please tell us your smarter than that  ;D
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2011, 08:21:54 PM »
"Shot up"?  Are you referring to a load in the ass, or are you referring to injecting crystal?

If it's crystal, that solves this puzzle.

Oh sorry for the confusion, I mean a load up his ass. lol
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27 Dec 11 - 559 (35%) / VL: 1,189
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2011, 08:24:26 PM »
mmmm.....all this dirty talk is making me horny....lol
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2011, 08:36:02 PM »
For a minute, I thought the Great White's were circling again....

1.) There are people who chase the bug wanting to get infected.

2.) "I just find it weird how someone would lie about it with someone else who was poz..." ~~ I agree, it's weird, but people don't always fit into packages we can understand. As some others have suggested, there are a myriad of reasons for guys wanting to bareback and the psychological equation for each person can be different.

3.) thunter34 hits it out of the park with "one of the most tiresome things for me on here is how many try to prop this "Oh, how cooooould you?" posture while they wag their fingers."

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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2011, 08:46:41 PM »
I don't get what all the controversy is.  I mean look around.  We all got fucked bare at some point (no I don't believe that you were infected through oral sex).  Why try and look deep into his "reasons"  for it.  We all had our reasons.  Some people are high and aren't thinking, some people are already positive, and some people are willing to take the risk, and some don't care.  Maybe he just didn't care.  So what.
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2011, 08:48:25 PM »
Actually, I understand this sort of thing.  I didn't outright want  infection, but I made all sorts of mental gymnastics in my pursuit of sex.  It's not taking into account the potential for say...drugs, alcohol, sex addiction or any number of psychological / emotional issues that can make people rationalize all sorts of behavior.

Of course you understand it sweetheart, it's called irrational thinking. 

My problem isn't someone thinking irrationally, or even DanMo not identifying it in the heat of the moment.  My problem is that he still isn't properly identifying that type of thinking way after the fact.
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2011, 08:55:54 PM »
Of course you understand it sweetheart, it's called irrational thinking. 

My problem isn't someone thinking irrationally, or even DanMo not identifying it in the heat of the moment.  My problem is that he still isn't properly identifying that type of thinking way after the fact.

I think he should get tested for STD's way after the fact......
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2011, 08:57:35 PM »
Miss P makes a lot of sense here. See how much can be lost in communication?

My problem is that he still isn't properly identifying that type of thinking way after the fact.

Let's remember though that DanMo is young and has likely not been around the block as many times as some of us. Age doesn't make me smarter but it means I have lived longer and experienced more, good and bad. Our knowledge is shaped by our experiences and I trust this is something of a learning experience. Hell, I didn't know what a "chaser" was until an hour or so ago.
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Re: Bearback sex backed away
« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2011, 08:58:08 PM »
I think he should get tested for STD's way after the fact......

Absolutely Dennis  ;)
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