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Author Topic: Obama's plan to cut the debt!  (Read 6626 times)

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Offline BT65

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Re: Obama's plan to cut the debt!
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2011, 05:35:28 PM »
I just have to say this- Mitch McConnell and Boehner remind me of the creepy men I used to dance for.

And about Clinton-yeah, there was a surplus when he was president, but don't forget he screwed the blue-collar out of 100's of 1000's of jobs when he let them go overseas.
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Offline thunter34

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Re: Obama's plan to cut the debt!
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2011, 06:10:40 PM »
How long have those signs been up?  And with no project?  That's really pathetic.

The signs went up quickly.  They've been up for what...nearly two years now?  I think they showed up late summer of 2009.


Just to lighten the conversation a little bit -- I have a fully bubble-wrapped package of imported poppers that I completely forgot to mail as I carried it around in my little vintage messenger bag this afternoon.  SORRY! ;D

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Offline Solo_LTSurvivor

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Re: Obama's plan to cut the debt!
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2011, 07:20:33 PM »
With all the social media and "direct connectedness" of America now, more people seem to be more concerned with what Lindsay Lohan is up to, or who is ahead on Dancing With the Stars, than how they are going to survive over the next decade....    the "dumbing down" of America at work.

Unfortunately Alan, as long as this reality show/instant gratification mentality is allowed to manifest and become the "norm"... things will only get worse.  Focus and attention spans have become nonexistent and it is truly abysmal that many people cannot comprehend anything with a plot which actually requires a bit of effort to actually understand.  (And) why should they since we have become a society which acknowledges that you can be without talent and be placed on a pedestal; so everyone is looking for their 15-minutes of fame.  This (in turn) will land you in a position above the little people, so why worry and think about real issues?  Totally sad and pathetic.
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Offline thunter34

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Re: Obama's plan to cut the debt!
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2011, 07:26:52 PM »
I just read on Yahoo that the republicans just passed a "budget blueprint" in the R-controlled House.  The whole of their plan calls for drastic cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and food stamps...while leaving Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations in place.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110415/ap_on_re_us/us_spending_showdown
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Obama's plan to cut the debt!
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2011, 07:59:04 PM »
I just read on Yahoo that the republicans just passed a "budget blueprint" in the R-controlled House.  The whole of their plan calls for drastic cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and food stamps...while leaving Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations in place.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110415/ap_on_re_us/us_spending_showdown

Which, of course, none of them ran on five months ago... but the great thing is all but four of them voted for it, even though they all know it has no hope of passing in the Senate -- but they'll all be forced to defend it over and over and over come next elections.  Doesn't sound like a winning strategy to me.

ps: people on here advocating a flat tax have no clue why it wouldn't work -- I recommend reading this:  http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/files/bartlett_fair_tax.pdf

It's by Bruce Bartlett, who is a major conservative Republican who was in Reagan's Treasury Department.

And some of you Southern boys might want to investigate why your states have the most regressive state/local taxes as compared with the rest of the country -- not talking federal stuff, but state... income, property versus sales tax.
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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Obama's plan to cut the debt!
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2011, 09:04:05 PM »
ps: people on here advocating a flat tax have no clue why it wouldn't work -- I recommend reading this:  http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/files/bartlett_fair_tax.pdf

Maybe the link is wrong. This article is about a national sales tax replacing federal income tax.

And some of you Southern boys might want to investigate why your states have the most regressive state/local taxes as compared with the rest of the country -- not talking federal stuff, but state... income, property versus sales tax.

Study Identifies Most Regressive State Tax Systems

http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/Study-Identifies-Most-Regressive-State-Tax-Systems-52520-1.html

Ten states — Washington, Florida, Tennessee, South Dakota, Texas, Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada and Alabama — are identified in the study as particularly regressive. These “Terrible Ten” states ask poor families — those in the bottom 20 percent of the income scale — to pay almost six times as much of their earnings in taxes as do the wealthy. Middle-income families in these states pay up to three-and-a-half times as high a share of their income as the wealthiest families.

The least regressive state tax systems are considered to be in Delaware, the District of Columbia, New York and Vermont
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Obama's plan to cut the debt!
« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2011, 01:51:38 AM »
From Real Time With Bill Maher 4/15/11:  I took a pic of the TV with my phone.  Hope you can read it.  It starts with FDR and ends with Obama.  You can see how it is heading down after WW2 until Reagan.  It begins to drops again under Clinton and shoots back up with Dubbya.  Bill had a good discussion about this topic.  It spiked under Obama due to having to get money into the economy to prevent another Depression.  However, Bill also mentioned how President Obama's budget increased Defense by another $5 Billion, while cutting funds for home heating assistance--among other things.  He said after the Korean War, Ike cut Defense 28%.  After Vietnam, Nixon and Ford cut it 37%.  Bush-41 cut it 14%.  Bill went on to say how this Democratic president doesn't seem able or willing to cut it, and keeps increasing it.  I would hate to think Dems won't touch Defense for political reasons.  We all know how weak Dems are on Defense.  Sarah and FOX say that, so it must be true.


 


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