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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2011, 07:11:32 PM »
Well, I like a little meat on a person, something to hold-on-too, skinny doesn't really work for me, a bag of bones is still a bag of bones  :D

I agree. I'm into bears. ;D

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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2011, 07:14:18 PM »
I think that obesity is genetic in some people

Well yeah, obese people always like to say this.  Take a room of 100 obese (mind you, I'm not talking folks that are 10 lbs. overweight) and you might find one that has an issue of genetics.

It's portion size at meals, eating out a lot, incessant snacking with processed foods in between the oversized meals, and an extreme lack of exercise because people drive everywhere because they live in suburban environments. 
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #52 on: March 28, 2011, 07:14:59 PM »
I agree. I'm into bears. ;D

"bear" is just another word for fat and hairy -- just say you're into fat, hairy men.
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #53 on: March 28, 2011, 07:17:46 PM »
Well, I like a little meat on a person, something to hold-on-too, skinny doesn't really work for me, a bag of bones is still a bag of bones  :D

Can't argue with you there. I usually don't mind thinner people, but as a bear cub myself, I enjoy something to hold onto as well!

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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #54 on: March 28, 2011, 07:18:15 PM »
"bear" is just another word for fat and hairy -- just say you're into fat, hairy men.

Oh dear, Bears have a dick too  at least the one's I know  ;D
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #55 on: March 28, 2011, 07:29:09 PM »
If I look down and cant see my feet anymore... does that mean I am now a bear? 

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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #56 on: March 28, 2011, 07:31:57 PM »
Oh dear, Bears have a dick too  at least the one's I know  ;D

Yes, I do... last time I checked. o_O

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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #57 on: March 28, 2011, 07:34:00 PM »
If I look down and cant see my feet anymore... does that mean I am now a bear? 

This is a bear -- everything else is just a disguise for FAT. 
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #58 on: March 28, 2011, 07:35:01 PM »
If I look down and cant see my feet anymore... does that mean I am now a bear?  

Well, if your belly hangs out more than your dicky do, then you might be a bear, but, nothing wrong with that, due to my age, I'm considered a Daddy Bear, although my size, body weight & Height , and the lack of much furr except on my chest & goatee, I'm still a Bear..............WOOF lotta cubs in here, I like this  :P
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #59 on: March 28, 2011, 07:36:50 PM »
This is a bear -- everything else is just a disguise for FAT.  

Yes,  WOOFERS  he is  miss P   ;) but bears come in all shape & sizes just like dicks  :D
« Last Edit: March 28, 2011, 07:40:01 PM by denb45 »
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #60 on: March 28, 2011, 07:41:33 PM »
I look back on this time last year (getting over PCP and just starting on Atripla) and at that time I was way too thin.  I remember standing at the kitchen sink with my 501s on and reached up to get something out of the cabinet above, down to the floor my pants went in one fell swoop.  That aint gonna happen today with the little bit of belly that I have these days and I like having it when compared to being too thin.


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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #61 on: March 28, 2011, 07:44:25 PM »
WOW, what would you do without Coca-Cola maybe drink Pepsi? 
ACK! The P-word is vulgar. :P We don't speak of that, or about sn@w, in my house.
In a world without Coke [swoon!], I'll just stop taking my meds and let nature solve the dilemma.

an extreme lack of exercise because people drive everywhere because they live in suburban environments.  
you whacked the nail on the head on that one. ;)
except its not cars - it's TV and video games and children without proper supervision/instruction.

for the last 10 yrs while I've worked in the backyard and played in the pool, I noticed that I only see the neighborhood children for about 4 weeks. Every day for two weeks after school releases for the summer, those little buggers are everywhere - biking, running, playing, etc. Then I don't see a soul for the rest of summer. When school starts back, I see the kids out again every afternoon for about two weeks. If it wasn't for those weeks and the yellow buses every day, I'd wonder if people were even still having children.
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #62 on: March 28, 2011, 07:46:30 PM »
This is a bear -- everything else is just a disguise for FAT. 
he's hardly hairy enough for a bear. I have that much hair on my chest. LOL That's just a hot hunk
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #63 on: March 28, 2011, 07:50:14 PM »
I look back on this time last year (getting over PCP and just starting on Atripla) and at that time I was way too thin.  I remember standing at the kitchen sink with my 501s on and reached up to get something out of the cabinet above, down to the floor my pants went in one fell swoop.  That aint gonna happen today with the little bit of belly that I have these days and I like having it when compared to being too thin.



 :D My otherhalf says I'm a bear, but he's more of a bear than me, he has furr all over his body, I don't, but yet in the gay bear community I'm still a bear to them, so, hey it is what it is James, don't over think the
concept dear  :-*
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #64 on: March 28, 2011, 07:54:40 PM »
I have a thing for hairy guys with a little meat on em.  Bears can be lots of fun as long as they dont snore too loudly when I am getting my 'bootie sleep'.

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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #65 on: March 28, 2011, 07:55:23 PM »
he's hardly hairy enough for a bear. I have that much hair on my chest. LOL That's just a hot hunk

Yes Mike, I would say that you are a bear too, I have proof of this, I've seen your pictures  ;D like me, you are a leather bear  ;)
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #66 on: March 28, 2011, 07:57:29 PM »
I have a thing for hairy guys with a little meat on em.  Bears can be lots of fun as long as they dont snore too loudly when I am getting my 'bootie sleep'.

 :D :D :D well you won't like me, I'll snore right in your ear, and droll all over you, just ask my otherhalf Bob
he can verify THIS  :D
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #67 on: March 28, 2011, 08:11:29 PM »
"bear" is just another word for fat and hairy -- just say you're into fat, hairy men.

I'm into fat, hairy men.


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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #68 on: March 28, 2011, 08:13:07 PM »


WOOOF  Ford, now that's what I'm takin bout  :P Thanks for the visual  ;)
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #69 on: March 28, 2011, 08:14:25 PM »
That man needs a good meth habit :D
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #70 on: March 28, 2011, 08:15:31 PM »
I'm into fat, hairy men.



Hell yea!  Thats all man and he could drool, snore, lick, and pretty much anything he wanted to do ALL NIGHT LONG!!  HOT!

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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #71 on: March 28, 2011, 08:16:12 PM »
That man needs a good meth habit :D

or maybe a good shag  :P honey @ my age anything will do  :D he'd make a mighty fine sandwich for me & Bob  :P
« Last Edit: March 28, 2011, 08:19:47 PM by denb45 »
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2011, 08:18:35 PM »
He is a big guy but would not really say he is fat.  The recent youtube video posted here on AM of 'I smell like shit' is a fat dude.  The guy in GSO's post has muscles and big bone(s).  

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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2011, 08:24:41 PM »
Oh come on -- If a guy is that hairy but instead of being 30 lbs. overweight is a fit weight you don't call him a bear.  The fact remains, as I began the discussion, is that there's been an eroticization of FAT in the gay community, one that didn't exist 20 years ago.  They were just called fat, hairy men.  It's like straight men into Chubby Porn ;D  Go buy a bag of Doritoes and masturbate next time.
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2011, 08:34:21 PM »
OK, well then what would you call me then, @ 6'3 190lbs size 13d boots that's works out 6 days a week?
it's ok if you wanna call me fat  :D I still love ya dear  :-*  but Yes, I do agree with you in some degree some Fat guys have hijacked the whole bear thing ,just to fit in, Fat is still Fat honey  ;D
« Last Edit: March 28, 2011, 08:39:17 PM by denb45 »
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2011, 08:39:38 PM »
OK, well then what would you call me then, @ 6'3 190lbs size 13d boots that's works out 6 days a week?
it's ok if you wanna call me fat  :D I still love ya dear  :-*

6'3" and 190 lbs you are of normal weight according to BMI.

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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2011, 08:44:49 PM »
6'3" and 190 lbs you are of normal weight according to BMI.

Yup your correct Ford, but so are you, so are you  ;)
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2011, 08:45:07 PM »
I'm 6 ft and 180 lbs and I am 10 lbs. too fat, though my doctor tells me he doesn't want me to lose any weight.

Oh right, and I'm fairly hairy.  Should I post my leather picture again?
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« Reply #78 on: March 28, 2011, 08:51:46 PM »
I'm 6 ft and 180 lbs and I am 10 lbs. too fat, though my doctor tells me he doesn't want me to lose any weight.

Oh right, and I'm fairly hairy.  Should I post my leather picture again?

My doctor told me NOT to gain any weight, said I was fine the way I'm, yes miss p PLEASE post some pictures of you being  pig in a sling, taking it wide & deep  :P I'm gettin off on that visual  ;D
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« Reply #79 on: March 28, 2011, 08:54:34 PM »
I would post my video but I would prolly get banned from the forums due to the explicit nature of it.  Been told I am more of a cub.  WTF!  I am just me.  I do wish I could get more of my butt back.  I am in a 'noassatall' situation since I lost so much weight last year and I want my tush back.

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« Reply #80 on: March 28, 2011, 08:55:41 PM »
Oh right, and I'm fairly hairy.  Should I post my leather picture again?

Yes please.

Yup your correct Ford, but so are you, so are you  ;)

I'm 5'9" and 180. Technically overweight. The most I have ever weighed is 189. Back in 2002 I dropped down to 135. After an endoscopy, colonoscopy and all kinds of tests the doctors decided it was HIV itself affecting my ability to absorb food. Combined with my lipoatrophy I looked horrible and strangers were asking what was wrong with me. I changed HIV meds and the weight started to slowly come back.

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« Reply #81 on: March 28, 2011, 09:00:10 PM »
Yes please.

I'm 5'9" and 180. Technically overweight. The most I have ever weighed is 189. Back in 2002 I dropped down to 135. After an endoscopy, colonoscopy and all kinds of tests the doctors decided it was HIV itself affecting my ability to absorb food. Combined with my lipoatrophy I looked horrible and strangers were asking what was wrong with me. I changed HIV meds and the weight started to slowly come back.

FORD, my otherhalf Bob is the same BMI as you 5'9" and 173, so I wouldn't say your Fat by any means  ;)
but that's just my own opinion  :) if you have muscle that's not considered overweight to me......Fat is still Fat, and muscle is still muscle, to me it's NOT the same thing  ::)
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« Reply #82 on: March 28, 2011, 09:01:07 PM »
I would post my video but I would prolly get banned from the forums due to the explicit nature of it.


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« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2011, 09:04:39 PM »
You guys (David, Ford, and Dennis) are at an ideal weight so dont change a thing.  Summer is coming and some of that will drop off anyhow with the increase in outside activities. 

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« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2011, 09:08:25 PM »
You guys (David, Ford, and Dennis) are at an ideal weight so dont change a thing.  Summer is coming and some of that will drop off anyhow with the increase in outside activities. 

 :D I don't want it to drop off anymore, if i get too thin, my dick will be way too big for my otherhalf to play with, he already has a problem with me now  ;D
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« Reply #85 on: March 28, 2011, 09:12:01 PM »
if i get too thin, my dick will be way too big for my otherhalf to play with, he already has a problem with me now  ;D

Now Dennis, you know teasing the readers on this forum is not nice.  Well, you are from LA... remember that survey??

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« Reply #86 on: March 28, 2011, 09:12:57 PM »
:D I don't want it to drop off anymore, if i get too thin, my dick will be way too big for my otherhalf to play with, he already has a problem with me now  ;D

As they say in the country:

when ya got a big tool, ya need a big shed. :D

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« Reply #87 on: March 28, 2011, 09:14:40 PM »
Now Dennis, you know teasing the readers on this forum is not nice.  Well, you are from LA... remember that survey??

@ 5'9 173 Bob isn't small, both of us aren't and that is what scares the hell outta all these queens in ABQ  :D
not to mention we look like 2 gay bikers, and most of the guys, can't seem to deal with that  ::) Oh and by the way Bob is from NY, he's an upstate farm boy from Water Town NY  ;) and I'm a central valley farm boy
from Sacramento, Ca.....
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« Reply #88 on: March 28, 2011, 09:49:21 PM »
You guys (David, Ford, and Dennis) are at an ideal weight so dont change a thing.  Summer is coming and some of that will drop off anyhow with the increase in outside activities. 

If I didn't have lipo I would agree, but mine is extreme on my legs and ass so NO weight disperses there, it all goes in my trunk area so it looks off balance.  Not a lot because I'm not actually fat, but it makes me look fatter than I am, if that makes sense.
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« Reply #89 on: March 28, 2011, 10:10:10 PM »
I don't think I could be fat if I tried, and trust me I've tried. Speaking of which I made a chocolate cake with Choc Icing tonight and I just downed a 1/4 of it.



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« Reply #90 on: March 28, 2011, 10:25:06 PM »
Forgot to post this for the BEAR lovers (SORRY HE'S NOT FATTER THOUGH)  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FNQZRa6tbQ
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« Reply #91 on: March 28, 2011, 11:42:49 PM »
If I didn't have lipo I would agree, but mine is extreme on my legs and ass so NO weight disperses there, it all goes in my trunk area so it looks off balance.  Not a lot because I'm not actually fat, but it makes me look fatter than I am, if that makes sense.

You look marvelous darling  :-* I've seen pictures and proof  ;)
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« Reply #92 on: March 28, 2011, 11:44:50 PM »
Oh Willy you sound like you really have a sweet tooth there young man  ;)
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« Reply #93 on: March 28, 2011, 11:50:02 PM »
I don't think I could be fat if I tried, and trust me I've tried. Speaking of which I made a chocolate cake with Choc Icing tonight and I just downed a 1/4 of it.


A mix from a box and icing from a can no doubt.
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« Reply #94 on: March 29, 2011, 01:14:23 AM »
I made a chocolate cake with Choc Icing
mmm. That reminds me, I have a Texas Sheet Cake recipe for next year's cookbook. ;) I just love it's fudge topping.
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« Reply #95 on: March 29, 2011, 06:43:38 AM »
I'm in my late 40s and I always understood "bear" means: hairy guy with some flesh, at least, or fat. At least a belly. Could be a barrel chest and massive muscles or could be fat.  

And yes, they are eroticized that's the point!!!

Bears existed in the 80's that's for sure. In limited numbers. It seems to me that the oldstyle 3 basic body types - ectomorph (skinny), mesomorph (muscly), endomorph (fatty) - are useful enough.

Seems to me that skinny and muscly have always been valued and eroticised, in the 70's 80's and on up to now.  That Bears came into their own in the 90's and the 00's is a good development.  Everyone should have the opportunity to be considered sexy and desireable, what's wrong with that?

I get the point that obesity is a health issue and being considered sexy (cause a bear) is a bad way to justify a health issue.  But not all bears are wallowing in their bearness nor being gluttons to the honey pot in order to be hot.  

I certainly know enough men who, after a certain, age, starve themselves to retain the skinny "ephebe" look.  
It doesn't really fool ANYONE except each other and their silly fetishization of thinness - cause it looks "young".  
("I still fit into my 28's" -- oh please barbara don't you have anything else to offer at 45 years old!)

And certainly others who through steroids and constant bodybuilding retain the semblance of a young footballer's mass and power.  

So those can ALSO be unhealthy lifestyles resulting in somewhat still eroticised images.

So in the end, nobody wants to promote obesity, but once someone is a fatty, thank god some other people find this attractive and hot.  

The only people calling "Bears" an excuse for sloth or obesity are probably ectomorphs or mesomorphs who have sour grapes, or don't want to share the spotlight. Sour grapes because bears can achieve hotness much easier than others can achieve slim youthfulness or hot hunkiness, and bears can maintain it longer.  I'm not a bear but I think its a VERY clever and positive spin on things by the bears.

On that note:  Gymrats pic IS a bear.  Miss P - your pic is of a stud - a hairy mesomorph.  Nothing bear there.
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #96 on: March 29, 2011, 07:56:46 AM »
Does a bear shit in the woods?

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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2011, 08:17:54 AM »
Ectomorphs are hot
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2011, 10:20:42 AM »
So let me get this straight -- meech has decreed it OK to eroticize guys that are so overweight they have a very large chance of cardiovascular disease?  What's next girl -- stump fucking?

And yes, the muscular hairy Jew is a bear -- same amount of hair as Steve Kelso.  Next. (I really hope you don't teach sociology).
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Re: WTF? with all these Prices
« Reply #99 on: March 29, 2011, 10:49:04 AM »
So let me get this straight -- meech has decreed it OK to eroticize guys that are so overweight they have a very large chance of cardiovascular disease?  What's next girl -- stump fucking?



Stump fucking can be fun, so don't dis a stump fucker, I have met a lot of em' and they are HOT
I like the Iraqi Army boys, Bob & I do know a few of em' nice guys and GREAT SEX :P

I'm still looking for a 4 foot 2 midget w/ big dick to stand and a box and plow my ass raw, but I'm not having any luck finding any  ;D
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