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Author Topic: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV  (Read 17624 times)

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Offline denb45

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #100 on: March 26, 2011, 10:08:51 PM »
   I think Phil is correct in this line of thinking. If people see HIV as nothing more than a manageable health issue, they may be disinclined to make much effort to be safe. If they view it as a deadly threat, they may be likely to take it more seriously.

   Sorry Bugsy, but I can't get behind this well-intentioned, but ulitmately poorly thoght out idea.

CaptCarl
 

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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #101 on: March 26, 2011, 10:17:19 PM »
Seriously, you're saying that people don't get tested because they fear having a virus that results in being associated with the word AIDS?  

While it's not just simple word association, it is one of the reasons people don't get tested.  

I wish a simple name change was the answer.  The stigma of having HIV/AIDS stems from ignorance.

How will calling it advanced HIV disease change that?  

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #102 on: March 26, 2011, 10:39:23 PM »
The stigma isn't from the word AIDS, it's from being forever associated as homosexual (and a promiscuous one at that), drug user, prostitute, etc.  Changing the name won't change this.  Ever.

Also, as far as treatment as prevention? Good luck with that.
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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #103 on: March 26, 2011, 11:09:26 PM »
The stigma isn't from the word AIDS, it's from being forever associated as homosexual (and a promiscuous one at that), drug user, prostitute, etc.  Changing the name won't change this.  Ever.

Also, as far as treatment as prevention? Good luck with that.

"hurt me with the truth rather than a lie, truth warrants respect, and a lie  just makes you a liar"

read into that whatever ya'll want to......

that about somes it up as far teh aids go's you can call it whatever you want, but it's still a deadly disease if not treated, not getting tested for this is just DUMB, due to stigma, why DIE because you don't want any
stigma, that's just fucking crazy...

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #104 on: March 27, 2011, 05:35:41 AM »
The stigma isn't from the word AIDS, it's from being forever associated as homosexual (and a promiscuous one at that), drug user, prostitute, etc.  Changing the name won't change this.  Ever.

Also, as far as treatment as prevention? Good luck with that.
IV drug abusers with AIDS are going to be associated as being homosexuals? Really? I would think they would be associated with "junkies."

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #105 on: March 27, 2011, 08:49:23 AM »
IV drug abusers with AIDS are going to be associated as being homosexuals? Really? I would think they would be associated with "junkies."

Pretty sure Philly didn't mean it that way. But it does bring to mind when back in the early days, it was also linked to Haitians as well. Do you remember the old joke from back then?

Q: What's the hardest part about having AIDS?
A: Trying to convince your parents that you're Haitian.

Also, if your a super old timer, you might remember what they called it before they came up with AIDS, they called it GRID: Gay-Related Immune Deficiency :-\

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #106 on: March 27, 2011, 08:55:56 AM »
IV drug abusers with AIDS are going to be associated as being homosexuals? Really? I would think they would be associated with "junkies."

Um...if you read Phillicia's post (which you actually quoted, btw) it says right in there, "associated as homosexual (and a promiscuous one at that), drug user, prostitute, etc."

And Captain, I may not be a "super old timer" (at least I try not to think so, but no spring chicken either), but even I remember GRID.  I guess it was because of early sexual questioning or some such, but I was paying super close attention to um...GRID way back when.  I remember people being thrown right out on the streets with no recourse whatsoever.
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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #107 on: March 27, 2011, 10:19:51 AM »
IV drug abusers with AIDS are going to be associated as being homosexuals? Really? I would think they would be associated with "junkies."

Roddles, I have no idea why you're electing to read what I wrote that way.  Pity that your little jihad is manifesting itself in this way today.  What's next -- Tourettes?
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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #108 on: March 27, 2011, 10:46:46 AM »
But it does bring to mind when back in the early days, it was also linked to Haitians as well. 

I had a good friend in high school who committed suicide the day his sister spoke Creole to him in the hallway, this was during the mass hysteria days when Miami news was portraying the poor people of Haiti as nothing more than AIDS carriers.   He felt the best way to fight it was to hide his nationality, and when his sister spoke to him in Creole he felt he had been outed.  He went home that day and shot himself in his mom's basement. 

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #109 on: March 27, 2011, 12:17:52 PM »
Roddles, I have no idea why you're electing to read what I wrote that way.  Pity that your little jihad is manifesting itself in this way today.  What's next -- Tourettes?
That is the way you posted it. Not all people that have HIV that read these forum are gay.

Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #110 on: March 27, 2011, 12:30:49 PM »
That is the way you posted it. Not all people that have HIV that read these forum are gay.

I don't know Rod, even with my current circumstances I'm pretty darn happy.  ;)
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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #111 on: March 27, 2011, 01:00:44 PM »
That is the way you posted it. Not all people that have HIV that read these forum are gay.

1) it was not written that way, stop acting like it was

2) really?  They're not all gay?  Gee Roddles, in my two decades of dealing with HIV in an urban setting I simply had no idea.
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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #112 on: March 27, 2011, 01:11:04 PM »
What would you like to do, paint HIV as a life of roses? You want to say, "Don't worry about HIV, it's manageable?"

RR read my post wrong as well. I think he just needs a good night's sleep.
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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #113 on: March 27, 2011, 01:16:28 PM »
RR read my post wrong as well. I think he just needs a good night's sleep.

Maybe Rodney is suffering from a form of PTSD caused by Am I Infected...

I've witnessed this once before and the results weren't pretty. 
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #114 on: March 27, 2011, 01:18:26 PM »
No, it's just called trolling.
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Offline mecch

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #115 on: March 27, 2011, 01:18:52 PM »
Anyone who voluntarily answers those questions deserves the Purple Heart, a good stiff.... cocktail, and many thanks.
ďFrom each, according to his ability; to each, according to his needĒ 1875 K Marx

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #116 on: March 27, 2011, 01:25:13 PM »
I despise the song Love is in the Air, you should too.

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #117 on: March 27, 2011, 01:33:45 PM »
« Last Edit: March 27, 2011, 02:55:10 PM by hope_for_a_cure »

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #118 on: March 27, 2011, 01:48:43 PM »
That is the way you posted it. Not all people that have HIV that read these forum are gay.

   And nobody made such an implication, Roddles. Nor was the assertion made that the only negative association that comes with AIDS is being asscociated with being gay. How you came up with that defies logic or comprehension. So do everyone a favor and stop twisting the words of others around, you do yourself no favors. Seems pretty obvious you're spoiling for a fight here.

   Perhaps popping a Klonnie or two and taking a nap might help your disposition today...

CaptCarl
« Last Edit: March 27, 2011, 01:50:35 PM by CaptCarl »
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Offline denb45

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #119 on: March 27, 2011, 01:49:40 PM »
No, it's just called trolling.

Well, at least Roddy isn't trolling for sex  :D not that it's a bad thing, it can be fun in most cases  ;D
miss P relax and breath dear  :-* I got what u meant sweetie, it wasn't a swipe @ anyone's sexual
preference  :)

And Roddy, you are correct as well, not everyone that has teh Aids is homosexual, so both of you are correct in your opinions  ;D
« Last Edit: March 27, 2011, 02:24:28 PM by denb45 »
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #120 on: March 27, 2011, 03:47:00 PM »


Wow, that's a spittin image of my Matty-Matt right before he pounces for my jugular.

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #121 on: March 27, 2011, 03:51:45 PM »
Wow, that's a spittin image of my Matty-Matt right before he pounces for my jugular.



Oh come on now, Matty isn't all the bad once you get to know him  ;D I find his dark humor refreshing  ;D
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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #122 on: March 27, 2011, 04:07:10 PM »
The stigma isn't from the word AIDS, it's from being forever associated as homosexual (and a promiscuous one at that), drug user, prostitute, etc.  Changing the name won't change this.  Ever.


It's well know around NZ that I'm very open about my status because of the talks I do, but I have been asked on a couple of occasions if I had ever worked in the "sex industry"..my answer was "no, I did dress up in a nurses uniform though, and most of the men I dealt with were always pretty happy to see me".... ;)

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #123 on: March 27, 2011, 05:46:25 PM »
It's well know around NZ that I'm very open about my status because of the talks I do, but I have been asked on a couple of occasions if I had ever worked in the "sex industry"..my answer was "no, I did dress up in a nurses uniform though, and most of the men I dealt with were always pretty happy to see me".... ;)

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Re: Time to do away with "AIDS" and just call it HIV
« Reply #124 on: March 27, 2011, 05:57:49 PM »
.my answer was "no, I did dress up in a nurses uniform though, and most of the men I dealt with were always pretty happy to see me".... ;)

Aroha
Jan :-*

I can relate Jan, but on a totally different sphere. ;)
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