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Offline RFull3r

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Sex with an escort
« on: March 07, 2011, 12:26:14 PM »
Afternoon,

Last Sunday I stupidly let my desires take over and ended up paying to see an escort for a mere 30 minutes of her time.  During our time I did say I was just looking to watch her whilst I masturbated, however one thing led to another and I ended up having mammary intercourse for maybe 2 minutes or so, she also touched my penis for maybe 5 seconds but I stopped her as I wasnt looking for her to masturbate me.

Could I posibly be infected from this session?  I shaved my penis in the morning of the event and had a little stubble rash round the base of the shaft.  I also had a few small cuts on my fingers.  At no point did we do the following:

Vaginal sex
Anal sex
Oral sex
kissing

She masturabted herself a little whilst I masturbated and rubbed my penis against her nipples, of which I then decided to have mammary intercourse with her.

Please can you offer any advice as I am really worried about HIV, but seeing as it only happened last Saturday (26/02/2011) I know its way too early to get tested so I have to wait if I want to get tested

:( :( :( :(

Thankyou so much for any advice or info anyone can provide

Rich

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Re: Could I be infected :-(
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2011, 12:42:30 PM »
mammary intercourse

Rich,

Um, do you mean tit-fuck? That is absolutely not a risk for hiv infection. It's not a risk for anything. Hiv is not transmitted through skin to skin contact.

Nothing you did or had done to you was a risk for hiv infection and you do not need to test over this incident.

Here's what you need to know in order to remain hiv negative:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER TIT-FUCKING OR MUTUAL MASTURBATION, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
« Last Edit: March 07, 2011, 12:44:11 PM by Ann »
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Offline RFull3r

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Re: Could I be infected :-(
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2011, 12:52:55 PM »
Hi Ann

Thanks for clarifying and yes I mean titfuck/titwank :-)  I was worried that maybe it could be transmitted from her masterbating herself for a while, and then using the same hand to push her tits together so I could fuck them.

Sorry to be crass but it wasnt the most conservative of sessions I have to admit.  I was very worried aftrwards and felt like I needed to get tested to be sure

Thankyou for your advice x

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Re: Could I be infected :-(
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 01:30:14 PM »
Hey again

Its now 10 days since I had my "potential exposure" and my throat has been giving me a bit of jip, with one side looking a little inflamed  and looks as though I could be forming the start of white spots. i dont know if its just my mind playing tricks on me and my throat actually looks normal, I just cant seem to shake the idea that I have been infected.

I feel physically fine other than the throat worry :(

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Re: Could I be infected :-(
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 01:41:54 PM »
R,

Whatever is going on with your throat has NOTHING to do with hiv. You did NOT have a risk for hiv infection, remember?

If your throat continues to bother you, see a doctor. It's still cold and flu season and there's been a fair amount of strep throat around this year - on the Isle of Man anyway. Could be on the mainland too.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Could I be infected :-(
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 02:04:08 PM »
Thanks Ann, I just cant seem to get the worry out of my mind for some reason even though I know its not relly a rational thought.  I didnt have any form of sex with her so shouldnt be at risk, but I keep worrying anyway, its hard to switch off.

Would it be too early to get tested anyway, it happened 10 days ago however I probably woulldnt get an appointment until next week at the GUM clinic if i were to book one in, would it show up after 14 - 17 days?  How long do results take to come back from a blood test?

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Re: Could I be infected :-(
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 04:58:16 PM »
F,

When there has actually been a risk (YOU DID NOT HAVE A RISK) the earliest one should test is at six weeks as the vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by this time, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days. A six week negative must be confirmed at the three month point - when there has actually been a risk - but is highly unlikely to change (YOU DID NOT HAVE A RISK!).

How long the test results take to come back will vary from GUM clinic to clinic.

If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.


Please consider yourself warned!

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Sex with an escort
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2011, 06:51:44 PM »
Hey there, I had sex with an escort 5 weeks ago. I had a covered blowjob before then having sex with a condom on for maybe a minute, then pulled out and removed the condom before cumming on her tits.

I am unaware of her HIV status at this time however im trying to find out. I wouldn't normally be worried as I know the condom offers the protection, however I've had a small nodule pop up in my armpit which I am panicking is potentially an early symptom of infection

Can someone give me a rational response? I'm sure I'm being stupid but the armpit thing has planted the seed of doubt x

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Re: Sex with an escort
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2011, 06:58:26 PM »
Please do not start a new thread every time you have another question or thought - regardless if you think your questions are related to each other or not. It helps us to help you when you keep all your thoughts or questions in one thread and it helps other readers to follow the discussion. Additional threads will be merged.

If you cannot find your thread, click on the "Show own posts" link in the left-hand column of any forum page, under your name.

Offline RFull3r

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Re: Sex with an escort
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 07:03:39 PM »
Ah right sorry I hadn't realised I had to keep all my posts to my own thread. Do I copy and paste my question into my first thread?

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Re: Sex with an escort
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2011, 08:09:46 PM »
You are indeed being irrational. You were protected from HIV.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: Sex with an escort
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2011, 07:14:32 AM »
Ah right sorry I hadn't realised I had to keep all my posts to my own thread. Do I copy and paste my question into my first thread?

Rich,

If you had bothered to read the Welcome Thread like I asked you to the last time you were here, you'd know that you're not supposed to start new threads.

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep everything in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Actually READ it this time! Thank you for your cooperation.






Getting a blowjob, with or without a condom on, is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

Protected intercourse is just that - protected against hiv. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. There have been three long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

In short, you have not had a risk for hiv infection. If you feel unwell or if you're worried about what's going on in your armpit, see a doctor. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv as you did NOT have a risk.

Ann

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Sex with an escort
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2012, 06:04:19 PM »
Hey guys

Hope I'm posting this in the right place, on the end of my current post...

Anyways here goes, tonight I had sex with a Spanish escort who spoke very little English so I have no idea about her sexual status

I put on a condom and proceeded to rub my penis against her vaginal area around her vagina and clit,we started having sex doggy style and to my horror I felt the condom pop inside her, I pulled out after 5 seconds or so as I didn't realise what it was at first and realised the condom broke, I immediately ran to the sink and washed my penis for 30 seconds or s. she finishe me of manually however now I'm really scared I have contracted HIV

Could this be enough of an exposure to contract HIV and should I get tested? Everytime I have sex with an escort I feel so awful afterwards, it's like I'm addicted to sex and I can't think of anything else when I need it.

I just hope I haven't been infected, I'm so worried. It happened about 2 hours ago so I suppose it's just going to be a waiting game for symptoms and the test period to arrive.

What are my chances :(

Thanks for any help and advice x

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Re: Sex with an escort
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2012, 06:29:46 PM »
Theoretically you had a risk with a condom breaking. But in the real world of HIV given what you have described I have never known of transmission to have occured during that kind of situation.

Get tested at 3 months to confirm your negative status. And I do expect you will test negative.

If you think you have a sex addiction problem that's a separate issue. There are organizations and ways for addressing that matter if you think you need help.

Just make sure you continue using condoms everytime you have vaginal and anal intercourse.
Andy Velez

Offline RFull3r

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Re: Sex with an escort
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2012, 06:51:02 PM »
Hi Andy

Thanks for your quick reply, it's made me feel better already.hopeflly the very small exposure window of 5-10 seconds and me running to the sink to wash myself with warm water an soap will reduce the small risk I had in the first place.  I Made a point of urinating afterwards as well to expel anything that might have got into my urethra so hopefully everything will be ok

Would you recommend a test or is the risk small enough to not warrant one?

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Re: Sex with an escort
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2012, 03:01:45 AM »
Also would it be a good idea to start PEP just in case or do you think the situation warrants it??

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« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2012, 04:31:00 AM »
R,

No, you do not need PEP over this brief insertive incident. The PEP guidelines do not recommend its use for the insertive partner who experienced a broken condom.

I have yet to see the insertive partner end up positive over a condom break and I do not expect you to be the first. However, you do need to test to make sure.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: Sex with an escort
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2012, 07:10:24 PM »
Thanks for the response Ann. Just out of interest Ann and Andy, how long have you been posting on this forum? Im just trying to get a frame of reference when you both say that you've never seen a positive outcome from a similar incident. Thanks!

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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2012, 08:03:27 AM »
R,

I've been posting here since March 2001 - and Andy has been here for a year or two longer. We've had two major forum software changes over the years and so the current forum software only has archives going back to 2006. Andy has also been involved in hiv/aids advocacy and prevention since well before the internet was commonplace. If you add to that all the other authorised Am I Infected forum responders, we have easily over 100 years experience between us all.

So yeah, we know what we're talking about.

To give you a bit of perspective, I was with an hiv negative man for a year and a half before I got my hiv positive diagnosis. During that time we never used condoms but yet he tested hiv negative. We did use condoms after my diagnosis, but not before. We were together for a total of just over eight years and when we split up (not due to hiv), he was still hiv negative.

This goes to show you just how difficult it is to transmit hiv to the insertive partner. Yes, he was lucky and if we'd continued to have unprotected intercourse, he most likely would have ended up hiv positive at some point during those eight years - but for a year and a half, he dodged the bullet.

So maybe now you can see why we're so confident that you're going to test negative after this very brief incident. If hiv were as easily transmitted as most people imagine, pretty much everyone in the world would be hiv positive by now, just like pretty much everyone in the world has had the flu at some point in their lives.

Make sure you re-read your entire thread - in particular, reply #1 where I explained to you what you need to know to avoid hiv infection. Importantly, you should be having those routine sexual health check-ups I talked about. It's what responsible, sexually active adults do to protect their health and the health of their partners.

While we're at it, there are two leading causes of condom failure.

One is not using enough - or any - water-based lube. Make sure you use plenty of lube, even for vaginal intercourse.

The other is not making sure there is no air bubble in the tip. When you put a condom on, you need to pinch the tip between the finger and thumb of one hand, while rolling it down with the other.

Once it's on, give it a firm stroke from tip to base, while watching the tip. If there's air in there, you'll see it. If there IS air present, roll it back up and try again. Once it's on and you're sure there's no air bubble, apply plenty of lube and go for it.

A correctly used condom rarely breaks, so make sure you're doing it right in future. Read through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can learn more about correct condom usage.

Please do test to be certain you are hiv negative - and while you're at it, have a full panel of STI testing. The other STIs are MUCH more easily transmitted than hiv and some can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the ONLY way to know for sure is to test. You can test for most of the other STIs at ten days to two weeks following a possible exposure, but syphilis shares a three month window with hiv for a conclusive negative result.

We fully expect you to test hiv negative following this brief incident. Good luck.

Ann
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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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