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Offline denb45

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Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« on: March 21, 2011, 02:02:37 PM »
OK, so the results are in and my breath test in the GI-Clinic reveals THIS:

SIBO = Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome, I do have bacterial overgrowth  :-[

This has nothing to do w/ HIV/AIDS, however it's worse if you do have a compromised immune system
so my GI-doctor tells me......

1. is it treatable.......YES
2. what do they do for this, The GI-doctor wrote out a script for DXYCYCLINE or XIFAXAN ( Rifaxiuin)
I'll pick up whatever he wrote tomorrow, after I see my ID-Doctor for my 4 month checkup
3. do they suggest any type of diet...YES..it's called the SIBO diet, and what they suggest:

Diet for IBS and SIBO

1.Veggies: no peas or celery,  all have to be cooked, nothing can be raw, so bye bye fresh salads  :(
2. Fruits:    only berries or bananas, no uncooked Fruits of any kind  with the exception of the 1st ones mentioned, so no raw fruits ( sorry guys  :D :D :D)
3. No Milk or Dairy, no more Ice Cream  :(
4. Lean meats only, chicken or fish and some red meats without any fats
5. Grains: white rice, oats, white breads/pasta, no more whole wheat breads  :(

Hopefully I can now get a handle on all this IBS and Diarrhea  :-* Mark , you were correct about some of this, dam, I love this man  :-*
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2011, 02:05:42 PM »


SIBO = Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome

http://www.puristat.com/bloating/sibo.aspx?pid=1&campaignno=Articles_E&adgroup=Bloating_SIBO_E&keywords=[sibo+diet]&gclid=CJGX2oeT4KcCFQImbAodNT7R-Q


Diet for IBS and SIBO

http://www.gidoctor.net/diet-ibs-sibo.php


« Last Edit: March 21, 2011, 02:18:45 PM by denb45 »
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2011, 02:58:24 PM »
Dennis hope this works out for you, I am interested that this diagnosis included a breath test. Good luck with it all.
mhtv
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2011, 03:32:40 PM »
Dennis hope this works out for you, I am interested that this diagnosis included a breath test. Good luck with it all.
mhtv

YES, me too, I'll keep everyone posted, on how well the antibiotics work for me, and the SIBO- diet. now I know why I was losing so much weight, usually I stay around 200LBS, but, now I'm like 190LBS, and kinda thinner than I used to be , not only have I lost the pounds, but, I've lost muscle too ??? I kinda find it interesting, that this isn't AIDS-related, as it's kinda like wasting syndrome  :-[
« Last Edit: March 21, 2011, 03:37:17 PM by denb45 »
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2011, 05:20:37 PM »
Hi Dennis
Its always good to have a sense of control over whats going on with one's body...and this sounds very positive.
Good luck and keep us posted.


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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2011, 07:12:32 PM »
Hi Dennis
Its always good to have a sense of control over whats going on with one's body...and this sounds very positive.
Good luck and keep us posted.


Joel

I will, I know a lot of others can read this info, but I felt it was more appropriate in the LTS Thread, I do hope this info helps out whoever reads it..........
« Last Edit: March 21, 2011, 07:14:55 PM by denb45 »
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 12:58:01 AM »
no raw fruits...hmm.. :D well, I'm aged fruit so I'm not considered raw anymore.. :D

no ice cream? .. :(

You already eat pretty healthy so is this a big change in your diet?
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2011, 07:41:05 AM »
Sounds almost like C. Dif.    Hope you're feeling better soon. 
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2011, 10:43:21 AM »
no raw fruits...hmm.. :D well, I'm aged fruit so I'm not considered raw anymore.. :D

no ice cream? .. :(

You already eat pretty healthy so is this a big change in your diet?

Not really, I already know what type of foods I can digest, and what I cannot, so No not a big change  ;)
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2011, 10:45:42 AM »
Sounds almost like C. Dif.    Hope you're feeling better soon. 

Yeah, it sure sounds like it, but SIBO & IBS isn't contagious  ;) so I was happy to hear about that  :D C. Diff is
contagious ???
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2011, 11:17:22 AM »
OK, you all wanted me to keep you updated on how the GI-Dept. is gonna treat my Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome , so here is what my GI-doctor subscribed me, I'll pick it up on Monday ...... Rifaxiuin (Brand name: XIFAXAN)  has anyone ever taken or heard of this before? any side effects, any thing I should know?
« Last Edit: March 26, 2011, 11:19:30 AM by denb45 »
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2011, 03:57:02 PM »
Is this an antibiotic?
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2011, 05:04:47 PM »
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2011, 08:13:03 PM »
I've never heard of it...but I hope it works for you.
"I may not be exactly where I want to be, but I sure as Hell am not where I was"
Wynnona Judd

Diagnosed/HIV
1993
AZT
Norvir
1994-2001
Crixivan/Epivir/Zerit
No Meds for 7 Years

04jul07/DVT-right leg/Bi Lateral PE's     
16oct08/DVT-left leg
Sept '09  6 blood clots in left arm
Coumadin 5mgs
                                     
Atenolol/50mg/2x
Hydrochlorth 25mg/1x
Gemfibrozil/300mgs/2X
Symbicort
Proventil Inhaler
Potassium
Rhinocort


*APR 08~Viramune/Truvada
March08  CD4 330 23% VL 452.000 
*Jan09 Med change~Epzicom/Viramune

Aug09   CD4 523 23%  VL<48
Diagnosed: COPD
Dec 2013: CD4 645 45% VL 49
Med Change: Viramune/Epivir/Ziagen/Isentress

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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2011, 08:32:56 PM »
I've never heard of it...but I hope it works for you.

I do too Ronnie but, the GI-Doctor tells me it will come back, like it always has in the past for the last 15 yrs.
so they really can't KILL IT  ??? and it is part of my disability along with teh AIDS  :-[ so, we all have our  health deli-mas I suppose , I've lived with it for this long, so I'll take whatever relief I can get even if it's for a short time  ;)
« Last Edit: March 26, 2011, 08:34:34 PM by denb45 »
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2011, 04:21:44 AM »
I've never heard of that antibiotic, but I hope it helps you.  And yes, C Dif is contagious.  I visited a client of mine in the hospital who had it, and I had to wear a face mask, and wash my hands well when leaving (even though I had no physical contact with him). 

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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2011, 11:03:15 AM »
I've never heard of that antibiotic, but I hope it helps you.  And yes, C Dif is contagious.  I visited a client of mine in the hospital who had it, and I had to wear a face mask, and wash my hands well when leaving (even though I had no physical contact with him). 



Yeah Betty, that is some NASTY STUFF, that c. diff   ??? do anyone of you know how you can even get c. diff? it sure doesn't seem to be very common  :)
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2011, 06:02:29 PM »
Yeah Betty, that is some NASTY STUFF, that c. diff   ??? do anyone of you know how you can even get c. diff? it sure doesn't seem to be very common  :)

You can google "C Difficile," and find information on it.  When my client was in the hospital, I read about it, but it's been awhile, and I can't remember.  I believe Web Md has info on their website.  Maybe it can be air born?  I know when the nurse's aid came in to take my client's vitals, she was totally robed up-big head mask, gown, and gloves. 
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2011, 07:58:46 PM »
You can google "C Difficile," and find information on it.  When my client was in the hospital, I read about it, but it's been awhile, and I can't remember.  I believe Web Md has info on their website.  Maybe it can be air born?  I know when the nurse's aid came in to take my client's vitals, she was totally robed up-big head mask, gown, and gloves. 

Yeah, Thanks Betty, I'll look it up, I'm kinda at a loss that they cannot really get rid of my SIBO, but it is treatable  :-[
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2011, 04:42:11 AM »
Yeah, Thanks Betty, I'll look it up, I'm kinda at a loss that they cannot really get rid of my SIBO, but it is treatable  :-[

Well, so look at it as just another condition you have to be careful with.  And I can sympathize-I have diabetes, they can't get rid of it, but it is treatable.  And tons of other things- diverticulitis, arthritis etc.  It sucks getting older.
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2011, 10:40:31 AM »
OK, so I picked up the antibiotic Rifaxiuin (Brand name: XIFAXAN)  this morning @ the RX and when I ask what was the price of this they said it was $182.50  ??? BCBS WTF? so, I ask them what is the UNM RX price of this drug, they said they didn't carry it  >:( well by then I was LIVID, so they left me @ the counter for a good 20 min or so, when they came back, they told me that it's was only $20.00 w/ UMN-cares, so things were looking up, and I paid that 20 and got the hell outta there quick  ??? WTF? Thanks for nothing
Obama, you SUCK Mr. Obama-care my ASS ??? what is up with all these different drug prices, it's like they
 are all attached to the fucking Stock-Market or some SHIT  ::)
« Last Edit: March 28, 2011, 03:19:57 PM by denb45 »
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2011, 11:54:24 AM »
Hey Dennis...so Have you altered your diet any?  Whats for dinner?

Modified to add: I noticed in another thread you drink sports drinks and work out.  Kurt does too.  But he buys the powdered form of Gator Aid and Crystal Lite and mixes his own.  Its not only cheaper that way, but you can dilute with water as needed.  We keep some former Gator Aid bottles around and refill them with our own concoction.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2011, 12:01:42 PM by bear60 »
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2011, 12:16:55 PM »
Hey Joel, thanks, I can drink the powdered Crystal Lite, it's cheaper and taste way better than Gator Aid
I have some, I didn't really have to change my diet much, I already know what foods my GI-tract can digest
so I stay clear from them, but this Rifaxiuin (Brand name: XIFAXAN) makes me dizzy & light headed it's 550mg
twice-a-day, for 14 days, and it's very strong, GI-doctor says it will kill just about ANY infection you might have, well, we'll see  ::)   I'm glad Kurt is doing well  ;) I bet that makes you a happy man, Joel,  dear
life is too dam short, not to be having any fun  :-*
« Last Edit: March 29, 2011, 12:23:06 PM by denb45 »
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2011, 01:59:49 AM »
You're in very good company. 

Not only have I heard of SIBO but I've taken XIFAXAN.  It's coated so that it doesn't breakdown in the stomach like other antibiotics.  I took one course and it cleared up the SIBO.  I only knew there was a problem because of all the belching I was doing.  If you do a search in the forums I'm sure I posted about it way back when.  I didn't have any side effects from taking it either. 

Did you have to do the breath test?  I remember having to drink this sort of sugar water and then breath into these test tubes about 20mins apart.  Anyway I hope the XIFAXAN works for you too.  I did experience another bout of it about 6 months ago but again one course of it was all it took to get rid of it.

Good luck!!!
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2011, 09:53:57 AM »
Well so says my GI-doctor, he can treat it, but I've had it for so long ( 15yrs.) that he's not sure he can get rid of it altogether, the damage is already done after so long, and it will come back, I'm halfway thur the XIFAXAN treatment with one more week to go.....

 As far as I can tell it's back with a vengeance (or I must have eaten something
I shouldn't have) and, yeah that hydrogen breath test I had take that, and I FAILED big time in 1 hour , I didn't have to stay for the whole 3 hrs. as they found bacteria , this is something I'm gonna have to live
with I've done this long, just teh aids  ???
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2011, 03:21:10 AM »
I'm sorry to hear that.  It really sucks especially since Xifaxan is just one more expensive drug.
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2011, 10:09:23 AM »
I'm sorry to hear that.  It really sucks especially since Xifaxan is just one more expensive drug.

Yeah that Xifaxan  cost $182.50 for a 14 day supply, it's very expensive even w/ BCBS  ??? Today is my last day of dosing, nothing has really changed much, my GI-problems did go away during the 1st week, but they are BACK
just like the GI-doctor said it would, and that SIBO diet isn't working, back to the drawing board I guess  :-[
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2011, 02:25:41 PM »
Wow Dennis,

Sorry to hear the recent treatment didn't seem to help.

I wish I had advice to give you, but all I have is positive energy I am sending your way.

HUGS,

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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2011, 02:43:52 PM »
I'm sorry to hear that Dennis . Is there any other treatments you may could try ?

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« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2011, 04:11:45 PM »

Hey , Mark & Jeff, Not sure, but, maybe The GI-doctor can come up with something else, he says that I do have GI- decease and wants me to continue follow ups & whatever treatment they can do, he was very nice told me "That's OK Big Guy you just come here now and we'll try to help you"  ;) Thanks for all the well-wishes
 form everyone, and I will keep this thread ALIVE form time to time w/ the latest updates on my on-going treatment, of SIBO  ;)
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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2011, 04:30:04 PM »
Dennis
Its a shame this isnt being resolved.  Really feel for you, man.

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Re: Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth Syndrome (SIBO)
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2011, 05:10:44 PM »
Dennis
Its a shame this isnt being resolved.  Really feel for you, man.

Hugs

Joel

 :-* that's just one of many many antibiotics they can try, I see my GI-doctor next month, I'm sure he'll know what to do next  ;) I'm not gonna give up on that SIBO diet, I'm sure it will take some tweaking  :)
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